Re: [zfs-discuss] Bandwidth disparity between NFS and ZFS

2006-06-27 Thread Neil Perrin
Robert Milkowski wrote On 06/27/06 03:00,: Hello Chris, Tuesday, June 27, 2006, 1:07:31 AM, you wrote: CC> On 6/26/06, Neil Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Robert Milkowski wrote On 06/25/06 04:12,: Hello Neil, Saturday, June 24, 2006, 3:46:34 PM, you wrote: NP> Chris, NP> The data

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] Bandwidth disparity between NFS and ZFS

2006-06-27 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Chris, Tuesday, June 27, 2006, 1:07:31 AM, you wrote: CC> On 6/26/06, Neil Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> Robert Milkowski wrote On 06/25/06 04:12,: >> > Hello Neil, >> > >> > Saturday, June 24, 2006, 3:46:34 PM, you wrote: >> > >> > NP> Chris, >> > >> > NP> The data will be wri

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bandwidth disparity between NFS and ZFS

2006-06-27 Thread Roch
Chris Csanady writes: > On 6/26/06, Neil Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Robert Milkowski wrote On 06/25/06 04:12,: > > > Hello Neil, > > > > > > Saturday, June 24, 2006, 3:46:34 PM, you wrote: > > > > > > NP> Chris, > > > > > > NP> The data will be written twice on ZFS us

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bandwidth disparity between NFS and ZFS

2006-06-26 Thread Chris Csanady
On 6/26/06, Neil Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Robert Milkowski wrote On 06/25/06 04:12,: > Hello Neil, > > Saturday, June 24, 2006, 3:46:34 PM, you wrote: > > NP> Chris, > > NP> The data will be written twice on ZFS using NFS. This is because NFS > NP> on closing the file internally uses f

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bandwidth disparity between NFS and ZFS

2006-06-26 Thread Neil Perrin
Robert Milkowski wrote On 06/25/06 04:12,: Hello Neil, Saturday, June 24, 2006, 3:46:34 PM, you wrote: NP> Chris, NP> The data will be written twice on ZFS using NFS. This is because NFS NP> on closing the file internally uses fsync to cause the writes to be NP> committed. This causes the ZI

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bandwidth disparity between NFS and ZFS (Solved)

2006-06-26 Thread Chris Csanady
I don't know how I missed it, but there are periodic commit requests by the NFS client. These occur often enough that the data ends up being written twice as you have suggested. In any case, this is really annoying, as dd certainly isn't requesting this behavior. Perhaps the clients are just st

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] Bandwidth disparity between NFS and ZFS

2006-06-25 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Neil, Saturday, June 24, 2006, 3:46:34 PM, you wrote: NP> Chris, NP> The data will be written twice on ZFS using NFS. This is because NFS NP> on closing the file internally uses fsync to cause the writes to be NP> committed. This causes the ZIL to immediately write the data to the intent

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bandwidth disparity between NFS and ZFS

2006-06-24 Thread Chris Csanady
On 6/24/06, Neil Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The data will be written twice on ZFS using NFS. This is because NFS on closing the file internally uses fsync to cause the writes to be committed. This causes the ZIL to immediately write the data to the intent log. Later the data is also writt

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bandwidth disparity between NFS and ZFS

2006-06-24 Thread Neil Perrin
Chris, The data will be written twice on ZFS using NFS. This is because NFS on closing the file internally uses fsync to cause the writes to be committed. This causes the ZIL to immediately write the data to the intent log. Later the data is also written committed as part of the pools transaction

[zfs-discuss] Bandwidth disparity between NFS and ZFS

2006-06-23 Thread Chris Csanady
While dd'ing to an nfs filesystem, half of the bandwidth is unaccounted for. What dd reports amounts to almost exactly half of what zpool iostat or iostat show; even after accounting for the overhead of the two mirrored vdevs. Would anyone care to guess where it may be going? (This is measured