Re: [zfs-discuss] about btrfs and zfs

2011-10-18 Thread Gregory Shaw
fs are pretty basic compared to some here > and I wondered how btrfs stacks up on the basic qualities. > > > > ___ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss - Gregory Shaw, Enterprise IT Architect Phone

Re: [zfs-discuss] Thumper (X4500), and CF SSD for L2ARC = ?

2011-10-14 Thread Gregory Shaw
#x27;d used two drives for cache, but apparently not. And Solaris 11 is supposed to be out Real Soon Now. :-) On 10/14/11 02:54 PM, Jim Klimov wrote: 2011-10-14 23:57, Gregory Shaw пишет: You might want to keep in mind that the X4500 was a ~2006 box, and had only PCI-X slots. Or, at least, th

Re: [zfs-discuss] Thumper (X4500), and CF SSD for L2ARC = ?

2011-10-14 Thread Gregory Shaw
> > > As a last resort, remove one of the 3.5" SATA drives, and put in an SSD in a > 2.5"->3.5" converter enclosure. > > Remember, you can generally get by fine with a lower-end SSD as L2ARC, so a > 60GB SSD should be $100 or less. > > -Erik > > >

Re: [zfs-discuss] Legality and the future of zfs...

2010-07-15 Thread Gregory Shaw
ir enterprise equivalent. As someone else pointed out, the black box solutions are cheap. I agree. They're cheap initially, but a pain to support over time. As you mention above, if you've got a number of people to handle the above problems, they may be a good fit. Otherwise, no w

Re: [zfs-discuss] device alias

2007-09-25 Thread Gregory Shaw
ned that you can't count on anything in /dev remaining over 'boot -r', patches, driver updates, san events, etc. - Gregory Shaw, IT Architect IT CTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc. Phone: (303)-272-8817 (x78817) 500 Eldorado Blvd, UBRM02-157 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Broomfie

Re: [zfs-discuss] device alias

2007-09-25 Thread Gregory Shaw
te the name with the disk, and has done so for ~10 years? I'm asking for the same ability -- let me name the disks so that I can keep track of them using human readable names. - Gregory Shaw, IT Architect IT CTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc. Phone: (303)-272-8817 (x78817) 500

[zfs-discuss] device alias

2007-09-25 Thread Gregory Shaw
0AVAIL External SATA disk 3 in box on top errors: No known data errors The above would be very useful should a disk fail to identify what device is what. Thanks! ----- Gregory Shaw, IT Architect IT CTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc. Phone: (303)-272-8817 (x78817) 500 Eldorado Blvd,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Another paper

2007-02-23 Thread Gregory Shaw
with focus. I've found that most fault mitigation systems concentrate on just that: faults. Performance degradation isn't treated as a fault, and usually falls out of any fault management system as a "we'd like to do that, but we've got bigger things to do."

Re: [zfs-discuss] Another paper

2007-02-21 Thread Gregory Shaw
On Feb 21, 2007, at 5:20 PM, Eric Schrock wrote: On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 03:35:06PM -0700, Gregory Shaw wrote: Below is another paper on drive failure analysis, this one won best paper at usenix: http://www.usenix.org/events/fast07/tech/schroeder/schroeder_html/ index.html What I found most

Re: [zfs-discuss] Another paper

2007-02-21 Thread Gregory Shaw
RT on drives with bearings that were gravel that passed smart, even though I knew the 10k drive was running at about 3k rpm due to the bearings. ditto. -- richard - Gregory Shaw, IT Architect Phone: (303) 272-8817 (x78817) ITCTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc. 500 Eldorado Blvd, UBR

[zfs-discuss] Another paper

2007-02-21 Thread Gregory Shaw
configurations (such as bad connections) as well. And yes, I do know about SMART. SMART can pre-indicate a disk failure. However, I've run SMART on drives with bearings that were gravel that passed smart, even though I knew the 10k drive was running at about 3k rpm due to the bearings.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in a SAN environment

2006-12-17 Thread Gregory Shaw
ID-5 (or better) within the controllers for best performance. This solution isn't cheap, however. The justification for a dual- array solution really depends on the data value. - Gregory Shaw, IT Architect IT CTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc. Phone: (303)-272-8817 500

Re: [zfs-discuss] Instructions for ignoring ZFS write cache flushing on intelligent arrays

2006-12-16 Thread Gregory Shaw
cuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss - Gregory Shaw, IT Architect IT CTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc. Phone: (303)-272-8817 500 Eldorado Blvd, UBRM02-157 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Broomfield, CO 80021 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) "When Microsoft w

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Proposal: multiple copies of user data

2006-09-13 Thread Gregory Shaw
ies on disk.I think it's a great idea.  It may not be for everybody, but I think the ability to treat some of my files as critical is a excellent feature. -Gregory Shaw, IT ArchitectPhone: (303) 673-8273        Fax: (303) 673-2773ITCTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc.500 Eldorado Blvd, UBRM02-401

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS imported simultanously on 2 systems...

2006-09-13 Thread Gregory Shaw
b]This can't be supposed to be the normal behaviour.Did we encounter a bug or is this still under development?This message posted from opensolaris.org___zfs-discuss mailing listzfs-discuss@opensolaris.orghttp://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinf

Re: [zfs-discuss] RAID & ZFS

2006-07-24 Thread Gregory Shaw
ibution is prohibited.  If you are not theintended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy allcopies of the original message._______zfs-discuss mailing listzfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can't remove corrupt file

2006-07-21 Thread Gregory Shaw
=ditto_blocks_the_amazing_tapeJeff___zfs-discuss mailing listzfs-discuss@opensolaris.orghttp://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss -Gregory Shaw, IT ArchitectPhone: (303) 673-8273        Fax: (303) 673-8273ITCTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc.1 StorageTek Drive MS

Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support

2006-07-21 Thread Gregory Shaw
efeld University -Gregory Shaw, IT ArchitectPhone: (303) 673-8273        Fax: (303) 673-8273ITCTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc.1 StorageTek Drive MS 4382              [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work)Louisville, CO 80028-4382                 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home)"When Microsoft writes an applicatio

Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support

2006-07-20 Thread Gregory Shaw
targeting for September release.Regards,-- AnneMark Shellenbaum wrote: Gregory Shaw wrote: Hey, does anybody know the timeframe for when Legato Networker will support ZFS?Or, perhaps, a workaround whereby backups of ZFS by Networker will succeed? EMC has a patch that we have tested and it appears to

[zfs-discuss] legato support

2006-07-20 Thread Gregory Shaw
Hey, does anybody know the timeframe for when Legato Networker will support ZFS?Or, perhaps, a workaround whereby backups of ZFS by Networker will succeed?  -Gregory Shaw, IT ArchitectPhone: (303) 673-8273        Fax: (303) 673-2773ITCTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc.1 StorageTek Drive ULVL4-382

[zfs-discuss] tracking an error back to a file

2006-07-20 Thread Gregory Shaw
s the method for identifying what file has an error?  Or is there some other interface that is either better documented or better supported?I don't want to put unstable interfaces in the document if I can avoid it.Thanks! -Gregory Shaw, IT ArchitectPhone: (303) 673-8273        Fax: (303)

Re: [zfs-discuss] Big JBOD: what would you do?

2006-07-18 Thread Gregory Shaw
t, and you have a cascade failure, I hope your backups are intact. -Gregory Shaw, IT ArchitectPhone: (303) 673-8273        Fax: (303) 673-2773ITCTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc.1 StorageTek Drive ULVL4-382              [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work)Louisville, CO 80028-4382                    [EMA

Re: [zfs-discuss] Big JBOD: what would you do?

2006-07-17 Thread Gregory Shaw
_zfs-discuss mailing listzfs-discuss@opensolaris.orghttp://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss -Gregory Shaw, IT ArchitectPhone: (303) 673-8273        Fax: (303) 673-2773ITCTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc.1 StorageTek Drive ULVL4-382              [EMAIL PR

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS and Storage

2006-06-27 Thread Gregory Shaw
On Jun 27, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Al Hopper wrote:On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, Gregory Shaw wrote: Yes, but the idea of using software raid on a large server doesn'tmake sense in modern systems.  If you've got a large database serverthat runs a large oracle instance, using CPU cycles for RAID

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Storage

2006-06-27 Thread Gregory Shaw
ata protection system (RAIDZ or RAID1) in order to correct errors it detects. Gregory Shaw wrote: Most controllers support a background-scrub that will read a volume and repair any bad stripes. This addresses the bad block issue in most cases. It still doesn't help when a double-

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Storage

2006-06-27 Thread Gregory Shaw
ging any of the hardware raid systems I've dealt with. -- Darren J Moffat - Gregory Shaw, IT Architect Phone: (303) 673-8273Fax: (303) 673-8273 ITCTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc. 1 StorageTek Drive MS 4382 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Louisville, CO 80028-4382 [E

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Storage

2006-06-27 Thread Gregory Shaw
lume and try to restore what was damaged. On Jun 26, 2006, at 6:40 PM, Eric Schrock wrote: On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 05:26:24PM -0600, Gregory Shaw wrote: You're using hardware raid. The hardware raid controller will rebuild the volume in the event of a single drive failure. You'

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS and Storage

2006-06-27 Thread Gregory Shaw
cuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss - Gregory Shaw, IT Architect Phone: (303) 673-8273Fax: (303) 673-8273 ITCTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc. 1 StorageTek Drive MS 4382 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Louisville, CO

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Storage

2006-06-26 Thread Gregory Shaw
On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 09:09 +1000, Nathan Kroenert wrote: > On Tue, 2006-06-27 at 02:27, Gregory Shaw wrote: > > On Jun 26, 2006, at 1:15 AM, Mika Borner wrote: > > > > > What we need, would be the feature to use JBODs. > > > > > > > If you've

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Storage

2006-06-26 Thread Gregory Shaw
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS questions

2006-06-22 Thread Gregory Shaw
then it could be much much longer than 4 years. Actually - That's an interesting. I assume ZFS only writes something when there is actually data? :) Nathan. On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 06:25, Eric Schrock wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 02:18:34PM -0600, Gregory Shaw wrote: Wouldn't that be:

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS questions

2006-06-20 Thread Gregory Shaw
- Eric -- Eric Schrock, Solaris Kernel Development http://blogs.sun.com/ eschrock ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss - Gregory Shaw, IT Architect Phone: (303) 673-8

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: disk write cache, redux

2006-06-15 Thread Gregory Shaw
oblem, if I can. What am I missing? Thanks! - Gregory Shaw, IT Architect Phone: (303) 673-8273Fax: (303) 673-8273 ITCTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc. 1 StorageTek Drive MS 4382 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Louisville, CO 80028-4382 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (h

Re: [zfs-discuss] disk evacuate

2006-06-11 Thread Gregory Shaw
res), which would allow you to remove an entire toplevel vdev, migrating the data off of it in the process. This would give you what you want for the case of an unreplicated pool. Does this satisfy the usage scenario you described? - Eric On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 07:52:37AM -0600, Gregory Shaw wrote:

[zfs-discuss] disk evacuate

2006-06-11 Thread Gregory Shaw
d and re-added with 'zpool add pool '. What does the group think? Thanks! - Gregory Shaw, IT Architect Phone: (303) 673-8273Fax: (303) 673-8273 ITCTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc. 1 StorageTek Drive MS 4382 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Louisville, CO 80028-4382

Re: [zfs-discuss] hard drive write cache

2006-05-26 Thread Gregory Shaw
On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 17:40, Bart Smaalders wrote: > Gregory Shaw wrote: > > I had a question to the group: > > In the different ZFS discussions in zfs-discuss, I've seen a > > recurring theme of disabling write cache on disks. I would think that > > the per

[zfs-discuss] hard drive write cache

2006-05-26 Thread Gregory Shaw
ling write cache. Would having a feature like forcing disk flush be sufficient to enable write cache? ----- Gregory Shaw, IT Architect Phone: (303) 673-8273Fax: (303) 673-2773 ITCTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc. 1 StorageTek Drive ULVL4-382 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Louisville

[zfs-discuss] export/import

2006-05-26 Thread Gregory Shaw
nting how to recover will help. Thanks! - Gregory Shaw, IT Architect Phone: (303) 673-8273Fax: (303) 673-2773 ITCTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc. 1 StorageTek Drive ULVL4-382 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Louisville, CO 80028-4382[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) "When Mi

Re: [zfs-discuss] tracking error to file

2006-05-22 Thread Gregory Shaw
-0600, Gregory Shaw wrote: DATASET OBJECT RANGE 1b 2402lvl=0 blkid=1965 I haven't found a way to report in human terms what the above object refers to. Is there such a method? There isn't any great method currently, but you can use 'zdb' to fi

[zfs-discuss] tracking error to file

2006-05-19 Thread Gregory Shaw
refers to. Is there such a method? I can clear the error using existing tools, but I'd like to know what is broken before I destroy it. Thanks! ----- Gregory Shaw, IT Architect Phone: (303) 673-8273Fax: (303) 673-8273 ITCTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc. 1 StorageTek

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: zfs snapshot for backup, Quota

2006-05-18 Thread Gregory Shaw
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 16:43 -0500, James Dickens wrote: > On 5/18/06, Gregory Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 12:12 -0700, Eric Schrock wrote: > > > On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 11:42:58AM -0700, Charlie wrote: > > > > Sorry to revive suc

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: zfs snapshot for backup, Quota

2006-05-18 Thread Gregory Shaw
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 12:12 -0700, Eric Schrock wrote: > On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 11:42:58AM -0700, Charlie wrote: > > Sorry to revive such an old thread.. but I'm struggling here. > > > > I really want to use zfs. Fssnap, SVM, etc all have drawbacks. But I > > work for a University, where everyone

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and databases

2006-05-15 Thread Gregory Shaw
grasp the long term performance implications of COW data. On May 15, 2006, at 8:47 AM, Roch Bourbonnais - Performance Engineering wrote: Gregory Shaw writes: I really like the below idea: - the ability to defragment a file 'live'. I can see instances where that c

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and databases

2006-05-12 Thread Gregory Shaw
sparently "reorganize" a file (a tool triggering an internal rewrite - such that the data become sequential on disk again - on-the-fly while the DBMS is running/file is open). - Franz _______ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org ht

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and databases

2006-05-12 Thread Gregory Shaw
read ahead capability. Luckily, creating new database tables is a relatively infrequent event. Does anybody else have any other points on this? On May 12, 2006, at 12:53 AM, Roch Bourbonnais - Performance Engineering wrote: From: Gregory Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and databases

2006-05-11 Thread Gregory Shaw
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and databases

2006-05-11 Thread Gregory Shaw
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Re: [zfs-discuss] XATTRs, ZAP and the Mac

2006-05-02 Thread Gregory Shaw
ly too late to fix this? If xattr were moved below gid and used up the pad[4], that would at least give us something useful. Maury This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/