Re: [zfs-discuss] Backup/Restore of ZFS Properties

2006-05-29 Thread Franz Haberhauer
e (eg. turn on compression). However, we're aware that preserving the settings would be really useful too, and we'll be working on that for a future release. Franz Haberhauer wrote: Where are properties of a ZFS filesystem stored (e.g. non-default mountpoints, quota, r

Re: [zfs-discuss] Backup/Restore of ZFS Properties

2006-05-29 Thread Franz Haberhauer
e defaults somewhere as they are done or save the output of a "zfs get" along with backups. - Franz Franz Haberhauer wrote: Where are properties of a ZFS filesystem stored (e.g. non-default mountpoints, quota, reservation, compression, exported shares etc.)? Do backup/restore mecha

Re: [zfs-discuss] Backup/Restore of ZFS Properties

2006-05-29 Thread Franz Haberhauer
mewhere as they are done or save the output of a "zfs get" along with backups. - Franz Franz Haberhauer wrote: Where are properties of a ZFS filesystem stored (e.g. non-default mountpoints, quota, reservation, compression, exported shares etc.)? Do backup/restore mechanisms (zfs sen

[zfs-discuss] Backup/Restore of ZFS Properties

2006-05-29 Thread Franz Haberhauer
Where are properties of a ZFS filesystem stored (e.g. non-default mountpoints, quota, reservation, compression, exported shares etc.)? Do backup/restore mechanisms (zfs send/receive, Networker/NetBackup/TSM, *tar etc.) handle (save/restore) them automagically or are there additional procedures

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS and databases

2006-05-15 Thread Franz Haberhauer
Nicolas Williams wrote: On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 08:23:55AM +0200, Franz Haberhauer wrote: Given that ISV apps can be only changed by the ISV who may or may not be willing to use such a new interface, having a "no cache" property for the file - or given that filesystems are now re

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and databases

2006-05-15 Thread Franz Haberhauer
The problem I see with "sequential access jump all over the place" is that this increases the utilization of the disks - over the years disks have become even faster for sequential access, whereas random access (as they have to move the actuator) has not improved at the same pace - this is what

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS and databases

2006-05-12 Thread Franz Haberhauer
Given that ISV apps can be only changed by the ISV who may or may not be willing to use such a new interface, having a "no cache" property for the file - or given that filesystems are now really cheap with ZFS - for the filesystem would be important as well, like the forcedirectio mount option

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and databases

2006-05-12 Thread Franz Haberhauer
>'ZFS optimizes random writes versus potential sequential reads.' This remark focused on the allocation policy during writes, not the readahead that occurs during reads. Data that are rewritten randomly but in place in a sequential, contiguos file (like a preallocated UFS file) are not optimi

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and databases

2006-05-12 Thread Franz Haberhauer
Gregory Shaw wrote On 05/11/06 21:15,: Regarding directio and quickio, is there a way with ZFS to skip the system buffer cache? I've seen big benefits for using directio when the data files have been segregated from the log files. Having the system compete with the DB for read-ahead results

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and databases

2006-05-12 Thread Franz Haberhauer
Roch Bourbonnais - Performance Engineering wrote On 05/12/06 09:30,: Tao Chen writes: > On 5/11/06, Peter Rival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Richard Elling wrote: > > > Oracle will zero-fill the tablespace with 128kByte iops -- it is not > > > sparse. I've got a scar. Has this changed i