Re: [zfs-discuss] suggestions for e-SATA HBA card on x86/x64

2012-10-25 Thread Jerry Kemp
Hello Bob, Thanks for the SIIG pointer, most of the stuff I had archived from this list pointed to LSI products. I poked around on the site and reviewed SIIG's SATA and SAS HBA. I also hit up their search engine. I'm not implying I did an all inclusive search, but nothing I came across on their

Re: [zfs-discuss] Scrub and checksum permutations

2012-10-25 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-10-25 21:17, Timothy Coalson wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Jim Klimov mailto:jimkli...@cos.ru>> wrote: If scrubbing works the way we "logically" expect it to, it should enforce validation of such combinations for each read of each copy of a block, in order to ensure

Re: [zfs-discuss] Scrub and checksum permutations

2012-10-25 Thread Timothy Coalson
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Jim Klimov wrote: > > If scrubbing works the way we "logically" expect it to, it > should enforce validation of such combinations for each read > of each copy of a block, in order to ensure that parity sectors > are intact and can be used for data recovery if a pl

Re: [zfs-discuss] suggestions for e-SATA HBA card on x86/x64

2012-10-25 Thread Dan Swartzendruber
On 10/25/2012 11:44 AM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: It may be that you'll get reduced cabling range (only up to SATA lengths, obviously), but it works. The voltage differences are very small and should only come into play when you're pushing the envelope of the cable length. I have a two-drive esat

Re: [zfs-discuss] suggestions for e-SATA HBA card on x86/x64

2012-10-25 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 10/25/2012 05:40 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: > >> On 10/25/2012 04:09 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: >>> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: Look for Dell's "6Gbps SAS HBA" cards. They can be had new for <$100 and are essentially

Re: [zfs-discuss] suggestions for e-SATA HBA card on x86/x64

2012-10-25 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: On 10/25/2012 04:09 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: Look for Dell's "6Gbps SAS HBA" cards. They can be had new for <$100 and are essentially rebranded LSI 9200-8e cards. Always try to look for OEM cards with LSI, b

Re: [zfs-discuss] suggestions for e-SATA HBA card on x86/x64

2012-10-25 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 10/25/2012 04:28 PM, Patrick Hahn wrote: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: > >> On 10/25/2012 04:11 PM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: >>> On 10/25/2012 04:09 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: > > Look for Dell's "6Gbps SAS HBA" cards

Re: [zfs-discuss] suggestions for e-SATA HBA card on x86/x64

2012-10-25 Thread Patrick Hahn
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: > On 10/25/2012 04:11 PM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: > > On 10/25/2012 04:09 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: > >>> > >>> Look for Dell's "6Gbps SAS HBA" cards. They can be had new for <$100 > and > >>> are e

Re: [zfs-discuss] Scrub and checksum permutations

2012-10-25 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Jim Klimov > > Logically, yes - I agree this is what we expect to be done. > However, at least with the normal ZFS reading pipeline, reads > of redundant copies and parities only kick in if the

Re: [zfs-discuss] suggestions for e-SATA HBA card on x86/x64

2012-10-25 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 10/25/2012 04:11 PM, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: > On 10/25/2012 04:09 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: >> On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: >>> >>> Look for Dell's "6Gbps SAS HBA" cards. They can be had new for <$100 and >>> are essentially rebranded LSI 9200-8e cards. Always try to look for OEM >>>

Re: [zfs-discuss] suggestions for e-SATA HBA card on x86/x64

2012-10-25 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 10/25/2012 04:09 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: >> >> Look for Dell's "6Gbps SAS HBA" cards. They can be had new for <$100 and >> are essentially rebranded LSI 9200-8e cards. Always try to look for OEM >> cards with LSI, because buying directly from them i

Re: [zfs-discuss] suggestions for e-SATA HBA card on x86/x64

2012-10-25 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012, Sašo Kiselkov wrote: Look for Dell's "6Gbps SAS HBA" cards. They can be had new for <$100 and are essentially rebranded LSI 9200-8e cards. Always try to look for OEM cards with LSI, because buying directly from them is incredibly expensive. Do these support eSATA? It seem

Re: [zfs-discuss] Scrub and checksum permutations

2012-10-25 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-10-25 15:30, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris) пишет: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Karl Wagner I can only speak anecdotally, but I believe it does. Watching zpool iostat it does read all data on

Re: [zfs-discuss] Scrub and checksum permutations

2012-10-25 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Karl Wagner > > I can only speak anecdotally, but I believe it does. > > Watching zpool iostat it does read all data on both disks in a mirrored > pair. > > Logically, it would not make sense

Re: [zfs-discuss] Scrub and checksum permutations

2012-10-25 Thread Karl Wagner
I can only speak anecdotally, but I believe it does. Watching zpool iostat it does read all data on both disks in a mirrored pair. Logically, it would not make sense not to verify all redundant data. The point of a scrub is to ensure all data is correct. On 2012-10-25 10:25, Jim Klimov wrot

[zfs-discuss] Scrub and checksum permutations

2012-10-25 Thread Jim Klimov
Hello all, I was describing how raidzN works recently, and got myself wondering: does zpool scrub verify all the parity sectors and the mirror halves? That is, IIRC, the scrub should try to read all allocated blocks and if they are read in OK - fine; if not - fix in-place with redundant data or

Re: [zfs-discuss] suggestions for e-SATA HBA card on x86/x64

2012-10-25 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 10/25/2012 05:59 AM, Jerry Kemp wrote: > I have just acquired a new JBOD box that will be used as a media > center/storage for home use only on my x86/x64 box running OpenIndiana > b151a7 currently. > > Its strictly a JBOD, no hw raid options, with an eSATA port to each drive. > > I am looking