Re: [zfs-discuss] Metadata (DDT) Cache Bias

2011-06-03 Thread Daniel Carosone
Edward Ned Harvey writes: > > If you consider the extreme bias... If the system would never give up > > metadata in cache until all the cached data were gone... Then it would be > > similar to the current primarycache=metadata, except that the system would > > be willing to cache data too, wh

[zfs-discuss] Experiences with SAS, SATA SSDs, and Expanders (Re: Should Intel X25-E not be used with a SAS Expander?)

2011-06-03 Thread Jeff Bacon
Let me throw two cents into the mix here. Background: I have probably 8 different ZFS boxes, BYO using SMC chassis. The standard config now looks like such: - CSE847-E26-1400LPB main chassis, X8DTH-iF board, dual X5670 CPUs, 96G RAM (some have 144G) - Intel X520 dual-10G card - 2 LSI 9211-8i co

Re: [zfs-discuss] SATA disk perf question

2011-06-03 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Thu, Jun 2 at 20:49, Erik Trimble wrote: Nope. In terms of actual, obtainable IOPS, a 7200RPM drive isn't going to be able to do more than 200 under ideal conditions, and should be able to manage 50 under anything other than the pedantically worst-case situation. That's only about a 50% dev

Re: [zfs-discuss] SATA disk perf question

2011-06-03 Thread Eric Sproul
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Paul Kraus wrote: > So is there a way to read these real I/Ops numbers ? > > iostat is reporting 600-800 I/Ops peak (1 second sample) for these > 7200 RPM SATA drives. If the drives are doing aggregation, then how to > tell what is really going on ? I've always as

Re: [zfs-discuss] SATA disk perf question

2011-06-03 Thread Paul Kraus
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Erik Trimble wrote: > On 6/2/2011 5:12 PM, Jens Elkner wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 06:17:08PM -0700, Erik Trimble wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 12:54 -0400, Paul Kraus wrote: >> >>> Here's how you calculate (average) how long a random IOPs takes: >>

Re: [zfs-discuss] Metadata (DDT) Cache Bias

2011-06-03 Thread Roch
Edward Ned Harvey writes: > Based on observed behavior measuring performance of dedup, I would say, some > chunk of data and its associated metadata seem have approximately the same > "warmness" in the cache. So when the data gets evicted, the associated > metadata tends to be evicted too. S