Re: [zfs-discuss] Existing zpool, add new disk to create raidz

2010-07-22 Thread Ian Collins
On 07/23/10 04:38 PM, Chris wrote: Apologies if this question has been answered before, and sorry if this is in the wrong forum (I couldn't find communities>> zfs>> discuss in the list) but I haven't been able to find the answer despite extensive searching. I have a zpool consisting of 3 x 1

[zfs-discuss] Existing zpool, add new disk to create raidz

2010-07-22 Thread Chris
Apologies if this question has been answered before, and sorry if this is in the wrong forum (I couldn't find communities >> zfs >> discuss in the list) but I haven't been able to find the answer despite extensive searching. I have a zpool consisting of 3 x 1TB disks. I would like to add 1 x 1TB

Re: [zfs-discuss] 1tb SATA drives

2010-07-22 Thread Brandon High
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Miles Nordin wrote: > reboots.  Brandon have you actually set it yourself, or are you just > aggregating forum discussion? I'm using an older revision of WD10EADS drives that allow TLER to be enabled via WDTLER.EXE. I have not had a drive fail in this environment

Re: [zfs-discuss] File cloning

2010-07-22 Thread Ross Walker
On Jul 22, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Miles Nordin wrote: >> "sw" == Saxon, Will writes: > >sw> 'clone' vs. a 'copy' would be very easy since we have >sw> deduplication now > > dedup doesn't replace the snapshot/clone feature for the > NFS-share-full-of-vmdk use case because there's no equi

[zfs-discuss] zfs add -r output

2010-07-22 Thread Ryan Schwartz
I've got a system running s10x_u7wos_08 with only half of the disks provisioned. When performing a dry run of a zpool add, I'm seeing some strange output: root# zpool add -n vst raidz2 c0t2d0 c5t1d0 c4t1d0 c4t5d0 c7t1d0 c7t5d0 c6t1d0 c6t5d0 c1t1d0 c1t5d0 c0t1d0 raidz2 c0t5d0 c0t5d0 c4t4d0 c7t0d

Re: [zfs-discuss] L2ARC and ZIL on same SSD?

2010-07-22 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On 07/22/10 04:00, Orvar Korvar wrote: Ok, so the bandwidth will be cut in half, and some people use this configuration. But, how bad is it to have the bandwidth cut in half? Will it hardly notice? For a home server, I doubt you'll notice. I've set up several systems (desktop & home server) as

Re: [zfs-discuss] slog/L2ARC on a hard drive and not SSD?

2010-07-22 Thread Richard Elling
On Jul 21, 2010, at 7:56 AM, Hernan F wrote: > Hi, > Out of pure curiosity, I was wondering, what would happen if one tries to use > a regular 7200RPM (or 10K) drive as slog or L2ARC (or both)? My rule of thumb is that if the latency of the slog (write latency) or L2ARC (random read) is 10x bet

Re: [zfs-discuss] [?] - What is the recommended number of disks for a consumer PC with ZFS

2010-07-22 Thread JavaWebDev
You haven't stated what you intend to use your pc for and what your requirements are. Without that I don't see how anyone can come up with an optimal configuration. So... what do you plan to do with your pc? Do you want the fastest performance and don't care about anything else? use all SSDs

Re: [zfs-discuss] Confused about consumer drives and zfs can someone help?

2010-07-22 Thread JavaWebDev
Using a new email client and didn't notice that I didn't reply to the list. Since it might be helpful to others here are the missing bits. On 7/21/2010 5:07 PM, Freddie Cash wrote: We use the 500 GB versions attached to 3Ware controllers (configured as Single Disk arrays). They work quite ni

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool throughput: snv 134 vs 138 vs 143

2010-07-22 Thread Chad Cantwell
Hi Garrett, Since my problem did turn out to be a debug kernel on my compilations, I booted back into the Nexanta 3 RC2 CD and let a scrub run for about half an hour to see if I just hadn't waited long enough the first time around. It never made it past 159 MB/s. I finally rebooted into my 145 n

Re: [zfs-discuss] L2ARC and ZIL on same SSD?

2010-07-22 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
- Original Message - > On Wed, 2010-07-21 at 09:42 -0700, Orvar Korvar wrote: > > Are there any drawbacks to partition a SSD in two parts and use > > L2ARC on one partition, and ZIL on the other? Any thoughts? > > Its probably a reasonable approach. The ZIL can be fairly small... > only >

Re: [zfs-discuss] File cloning

2010-07-22 Thread Miles Nordin
> "sw" == Saxon, Will writes: sw> 'clone' vs. a 'copy' would be very easy since we have sw> deduplication now dedup doesn't replace the snapshot/clone feature for the NFS-share-full-of-vmdk use case because there's no equivalent of 'zfs rollback' I'm tempted to say, ``vmware needs

Re: [zfs-discuss] 1tb SATA drives

2010-07-22 Thread Miles Nordin
> "bh" == Brandon High writes: bh> Recent versions no longer support enabling TLER or ERC. To bh> the best of my knowledge, Samsung and Hitachi drives all bh> support CCTL, which is yet another name for the same thing. once again, I have to ask, has anyone actually found these f

[zfs-discuss] File cloning

2010-07-22 Thread Saxon, Will
Hello, I've recently joined this list, primarily because of a thread I found from late April ("Is file cloning anywhere on ZFS roadmap") asking about file-level cloning in ZFS. Based on that thread I understand that it's not currently possible to 'clone' files instead of 'copying' them, but the

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-22 Thread Robert Milkowski
On 22/07/2010 03:25, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Robert Milkowski I had a quick look at your results a moment ago. The problem is that you used a server with 4GB of RAM + a raid card w

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal Disk configuration

2010-07-22 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- >> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of John Andrunas >> >> I know this is potentially a loaded question, but what is generally >> considered the optimal disk configuration

Re: [zfs-discuss] CPU requirements for zfs performance

2010-07-22 Thread Saso Kiselkov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I didn't mean to imply that I use it for my media storage, just that I occasionally encounter situations when it could be useful. BR, - -- Saso On 07/22/2010 11:23 AM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: > - Original Message - >> I do encounter situa

Re: [zfs-discuss] Recommended RAM for ZFS on various platforms

2010-07-22 Thread Rob Clark
> I'm currently planning on running FreeBSD with ZFS, but I wanted to > double-check how much memory I'd need for it to be stable. The ZFS > wiki currently says you can go as low as 1 GB, but recommends 2 GB; > however, elsewhere I've seen someone claim that you need at least 4 GB. > ... > How a

Re: [zfs-discuss] CPU requirements for zfs performance

2010-07-22 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
- Original Message - > I do encounter situations when I (or somebody from my family) > accidentally create multiple copies of photo albums. :-) I wouldn't recommend using dedup on this system. Dedup requires lots of RAM or L2ARC, and I don't think it is suitable for your needs. You may wa

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal Disk configuration

2010-07-22 Thread Bruno Sousa
Hi all, That's what i have, so i'm probably on the good track :) Basically i have a Sun X4240 with 2 Sun HBA's attached to 2 Sun J4400 , each of them with 12 SATA 1TB disks. The configuration is - ZFS mirrored pool with 22x2 +2 spares , with 1 disk on Jbod A attached to HBA A and the other disk

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs raidz1 and traditional raid 5 perfomrance comparision

2010-07-22 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Robert Milkowski > > > I had a quick look at your results a moment ago. > The problem is that you used a server with 4GB of RAM + a raid card > with > a 256MB of cache. > Then your filesize for

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal Disk configuration

2010-07-22 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of John Andrunas > > I know this is potentially a loaded question, but what is generally > considered the optimal disk configuration for ZFS. I have 48 disks on > 2 RAID controllers (2x24). The

Re: [zfs-discuss] Confused about consumer drives and zfs can someone help?

2010-07-22 Thread Rob Clark
> I wanted to build a small back up (maybe also NAS) server using A common question that I am trying to get answered (and have a few) here: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=102368&tstart=0 Rob -- This message posted from opensolaris.org __

Re: [zfs-discuss] 1tb SATA drives

2010-07-22 Thread Brandon High
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Jordan McQuown wrote: > I’m curious to know what other people are running for HD’s in white box > systems? I’m currently looking at Seagate Barracuda’s and Hitachi Deskstars. > I’m looking at the 1tb models. These will be attached to an LSI expander in > a sc847e2

Re: [zfs-discuss] L2ARC and ZIL on same SSD?

2010-07-22 Thread Orvar Korvar
Ok, so the bandwidth will be cut in half, and some people use this configuration. But, how bad is it to have the bandwidth cut in half? Will it hardly notice? (Just ordinary home server, some media files, ebooks, etc) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] [?] - What is the recommended number of disks for a consumer PC with ZFS

2010-07-22 Thread Rob Clark
> I'm building my new storage server, all the parts should come in this week. > ... Another answer is here: http://eonstorage.blogspot.com/2010/03/whats-best-pool-to-build-with-3-or-4.html Rob -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Performance advantages of spool with 2x raidz2 vdev"s vs. Single vdev

2010-07-22 Thread Rob Clark
> Hi guys, I am about to reshape my data spool and am wondering what > performance diff. I can expect from the new config. Vs. The old. > > The old config. Is a pool of a single vdev of 8 disks raidz2. > The new pool config is 2vdev's of 7 disk raidz2 in a single pool. > > I understand it should