Re: [zfs-discuss] Plugging in a hard drive after Solaris has booted up?

2010-05-07 Thread Ben Rockwood
On 5/7/10 9:38 PM, Giovanni wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have a quick question, I am playing around with ZFS and here's what I did. > > I created a storage pool with several drives. I unplugged 3 out of 5 drives > from the array, currently: > > NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM > gpool

Re: [zfs-discuss] Plugging in a hard drive after Solaris has booted up?

2010-05-07 Thread Ian Collins
On 05/ 8/10 04:38 PM, Giovanni wrote: Hi guys, I have a quick question, I am playing around with ZFS and here's what I did. I created a storage pool with several drives. I unplugged 3 out of 5 drives from the array, currently: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM gpool

[zfs-discuss] Plugging in a hard drive after Solaris has booted up?

2010-05-07 Thread Giovanni
Hi guys, I have a quick question, I am playing around with ZFS and here's what I did. I created a storage pool with several drives. I unplugged 3 out of 5 drives from the array, currently: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM gpool UNAVAIL 0 0 0 insufficien

Re: [zfs-discuss] Exporting iSCSI - it's still getting all the ZFS protect

2010-05-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
AFAIK, zfs should be able to protect against (if the pool is redundant), or at least detect, corruption from the point that it is handed the data, to the point that the data is written to permanent storage, _provided_that_ the system has ECC RAM (so it can detect and often correct random backgroun

Re: [zfs-discuss] Exporting iSCSI - it's still getting all the ZFS protection, right?

2010-05-07 Thread Haudy Kazemi
Brandon High wrote: "On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Michael Shadle wrote: Is ZFS doing it's magic checksumming and whatnot on this share, even though it is seeing junk data (NTFS on top of iSCSI...) or am I not getting any benefits from this setup at all (besides thin provisioning, things l

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root ARC memory usage on VxFS system...

2010-05-07 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 7 May 2010, Kris Kasner wrote: One thing my customers noticed immediately was a reduction in "free" memory as reported by 'top'. By way of explaining that ZFS keeps it's cache in kernel and not in the freelist, it became apparent that memory is being used disproportionally to the filesy

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS root ARC memory usage on VxFS system...

2010-05-07 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On 05/07/10 15:05, Kris Kasner wrote: Is ZFS swap cached in the ARC? I can't account for data in the ZFS filesystems to use as much ARC as is in use without the swap files being cached.. seems a bit redundant? There's nothing to explicitly disable caching just for swap; from zfs's point of vie

[zfs-discuss] ZFS root ARC memory usage on VxFS system...

2010-05-07 Thread Kris Kasner
Hi Folks.. We have started to convert our Veritas clustered systems over to ZFS root to take advantage of the extreme simplification of using Live Upgrade. Moving the data of these systems off VxVM and VxFS is not in scope for reasons to numerous to go into.. One thing my customers noticed

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirroring USB Drive with Laptop for Backup purposes

2010-05-07 Thread Markus Kovero
> - Poweroff with USB drive connected or removed, Solaris will not boot > unless USB drive is > connected, and in some cases need to be attached to the exact same > USB port when last > attached. Is this a bug ? Possibly hitting this? http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS - USB 3.0 SSD disk

2010-05-07 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 05/06/2010 11:00 AM, Bruno Sousa wrote: Going on the specs it seems to me that if this device has a good price it might be quite useful for caching purposes on ZFS based storage. Not bad, they claim 1TB transfer in 47 minutes: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=1TB%2F47+minutes That's

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirroring USB Drive with Laptop for Backup purposes

2010-05-07 Thread Bill McGonigle
On 05/07/2010 11:08 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: I'm going to continue encouraging you to staying "mainstream," because what people do the most is usually what's supported the best. If I may be the contrarian, I hope Matt keeps experimenting with this, files bugs, and they get fixed. His use

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirroring USB Drive with Laptop for Backup purposes

2010-05-07 Thread Brandon High
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Matt Keenan wrote: > - Poweroff with USB drive connected or removed, Solaris will not boot unless > USB drive is >  connected, and in some cases need to be attached to the exact same USB port > when last >  attached. Is this a bug ? There's a known issue in recent

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hard disk buffer at 100%

2010-05-07 Thread Giovanni Tirloni
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Emily Grettel wrote: > Hi, > > I've had my RAIDz volume working well on SNV_131 but it has come to my > attention that there has been some read issues with the drives. Previously I > thought this was a CIFS problem but I'm noticing that when transfering files > or

Re: [zfs-discuss] Disks configuration for a zfs based samba/cifs file server

2010-05-07 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 7 May 2010, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: I have read on "zfs best practices" articles that slicing is not suggested (unless you want to just create one slice for each disk to slightly lower each disk size, to be prepared for disks small differences in case of substitution of any of them). The

Re: [zfs-discuss] why both dedup and compression?

2010-05-07 Thread Dennis Clarke
> On 06/05/2010 21:07, Erik Trimble wrote: >> VM images contain large quantities of executable files, most of which >> compress poorly, if at all. > > What data are you basing that generalisation on ? note : I can't believe someone said that. warning : I just detected a fast rise time on my peda

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirroring USB Drive with Laptop for Backup purposes

2010-05-07 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: Matt Keenan [mailto:matt...@opensolaris.org] > > After some playing around I've noticed some kinks particularly around > booting. I'm going to continue encouraging you to staying "mainstream," because what people do the most is usually what's supported the best. I think you'll have a mor

Re: [zfs-discuss] Does ZFS use large memory pages?

2010-05-07 Thread Gary Mills
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 07:46:49PM -0700, Rob wrote: > Hi Gary, > I would not remove this line in /etc/system. > We have been combatting this bug for a while now on our ZFS file > system running JES Commsuite 7. > > I would be interested in finding out how you were able to pin point > the problem.

Re: [zfs-discuss] why both dedup and compression?

2010-05-07 Thread David Magda
On Fri, May 7, 2010 04:32, Darren J Moffat wrote: > Remember also that unless you are very CPU bound you might actually > improve performance from enabling compression. This isn't new to ZFS, > people (my self included) used to do this back in MS-DOS days with > Stacker and Doublespace. CPU has

[zfs-discuss] ZFS Hard disk buffer at 100%

2010-05-07 Thread Emily Grettel
Hi, I've had my RAIDz volume working well on SNV_131 but it has come to my attention that there has been some read issues with the drives. Previously I thought this was a CIFS problem but I'm noticing that when transfering files or uncompressing some fairly large 7z (1-2Gb) files (or even s

[zfs-discuss] confused about zpool import -f and export

2010-05-07 Thread Bill McGonigle
Hi, all, I think I'm missing a concept with import and export. I'm working on installing a Nexenta b134 system under Xen, and I have to run the installer under hvm mode, then I'm trying to get it back up under pv mode. In that process the controller names change, and that's where I'm getting

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirroring USB Drive with Laptop for Backup purposes

2010-05-07 Thread Matt Keenan
After some playing around I've noticed some kinks particularly around booting. Some scenarios : - Poweroff with USB drive connected or removed, Solaris will not boot unless USB drive is connected, and in some cases need to be attached to the exact same USB port when last attached. Is thi

Re: [zfs-discuss] why both dedup and compression?

2010-05-07 Thread Casper . Dik
>On 06/05/2010 21:07, Erik Trimble wrote: >> VM images contain large quantities of executable files, most of which >> compress poorly, if at all. > >What data are you basing that generalisation on ? > >Look at these simple examples for libc on my OpenSolaris machine: > >1.6M /usr/lib/libc.so.1* >

Re: [zfs-discuss] why both dedup and compression?

2010-05-07 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 06/05/2010 21:07, Erik Trimble wrote: VM images contain large quantities of executable files, most of which compress poorly, if at all. What data are you basing that generalisation on ? Look at these simple examples for libc on my OpenSolaris machine: 1.6M /usr/lib/libc.so.1* 636K /tmp/l

[zfs-discuss] Disks configuration for a zfs based samba/cifs file server

2010-05-07 Thread Gabriele Bulfon
Hi, I would love some suggestions for an implementation I'm going to deploy. I will have a machine with 4x1T disks, going to be a file server for both windows and osx clients through smb/cifs. I have read on "zfs best practices" articles that slicing is not suggested (unless you want to just creat

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on ZFS based storage?

2010-05-07 Thread Gabriele Bulfon
Thanks for your suggestions :) Another thing comes to my mind (expecially after a past bad experience with a buggy storage non-zfs backend). Usually (correct me if I'm wrong) the storage will be having redundancy on its zfs volumes (be it mirror or raidz). Once the redundant volume is exposed as