Re: [zfs-discuss] (FreeBSD) ZFS RAID: Disk fails while replacing another disk

2010-03-03 Thread Christian Heßmann
On 04.03.2010, at 02:57, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: I see lots and lots of zfs traffic on the discussion list "freebsd...@freebsd.org ". This is where the FreeBSD filesystem developers hang out. Thanks - I'll have a look there. As usual, the cool kids are in mailing lists... ;-) The zpool st

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to verify ecc for ram is active and enabled?

2010-03-03 Thread Miles Nordin
> "a" == ace writes: a> Miles, AMD and intel's new xeon with the integrated memory a> controller ought to behave and interact with opensolaris the a> same way, yes? No, I think they'd interact differently. The interaction is ``reporting errors'' I guess. I think each major

Re: [zfs-discuss] (FreeBSD) ZFS RAID: Disk fails while replacing another disk

2010-03-03 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Bob Friesenhahn < bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us> wrote: > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Christian Heßmann wrote: > >> To be honest, I don't know how to proceed now. It feels like my system is >> in a very unstable state right now, with a replacement not yet finished and >> err

Re: [zfs-discuss] Who is using ZFS ACL's in production?

2010-03-03 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > I don't think it will work as well for you as you think it will; I think > you'll then find yourself complaining that backup systems don't work, and > indexing systems don't work, and this doesn't work, and that doesn't work, > all because you've brok

Re: [zfs-discuss] (FreeBSD) ZFS RAID: Disk fails while replacing another disk

2010-03-03 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Christian Heßmann wrote: I've already written this on the FreeBSD forums, but so far, the feedback is not so great - seems FreeBSD guys aren't that keen on ZFS. I have some hopes I see lots and lots of zfs traffic on the discussion list "freebsd...@freebsd.org". This is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Expand zpool capacity

2010-03-03 Thread Erik Trimble
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 06:59 -0800, Vladimir Leitenberger wrote: > Hmm is it pissoble to upgrade my current zfs version to the new one, without > updating whole system (pkg image-update)? > > The Problem is, i've made 5.1 Gb free space and tried to make a normal > update, but upgrading from 111b

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to verify ecc for ram is active and enabled?

2010-03-03 Thread ace
Yes, you are correct. Thanks. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to verify ecc for ram is active and enabled?

2010-03-03 Thread ace
Thanks for the info everyone! I will now setup scrubbing and verify ecc alerts. Miles, AMD and intel's new xeon with the integrated memory controller ought to behave and interact with opensolaris the same way, yes? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to verify ecc for ram is active and enabled?

2010-03-03 Thread Simon Breden
Thanks Miles, I'll take a look. Cheers, Simon -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to verify ecc for ram is active and enabled?

2010-03-03 Thread Miles Nordin
> "sb" == Simon Breden writes: sb> ASUS M2N-SLI DELUXE ACPI BIOS If it is AMD then: http://ar.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=345422#345422 scripts need 'setpci' for solaris: http://blogs.sun.com/thebentzone/entry/compiling_pciutils_lspci_on_solaris (untested) also k

[zfs-discuss] (FreeBSD) ZFS RAID: Disk fails while replacing another disk

2010-03-03 Thread Christian Heßmann
Hello guys, I've already written this on the FreeBSD forums, but so far, the feedback is not so great - seems FreeBSD guys aren't that keen on ZFS. I have some hopes you'll be more experienced on these kind of errors: I have a ZFS pool comprised of two 3-disk RAIDs which I've recently mo

Re: [zfs-discuss] recovering data - howto mount rpool to newpool?

2010-03-03 Thread Ian Collins
Erwin Panen wrote: Ian, thanks for replying. I'll give cfgadm | grep sata a go in a minute. At the mo I've rebooted from 2009.06 livecd. Of course I can't import rpool because it's a newer zfs version :-( Any way to update zfs version on a running livecd? No, if you can get a failsafe session

Re: [zfs-discuss] recovering data - howto mount rpool to newpool?

2010-03-03 Thread Erwin Panen
Ian, thanks for replying. I'll give cfgadm | grep sata a go in a minute. At the mo I've rebooted from 2009.06 livecd. Of course I can't import rpool because it's a newer zfs version :-( Any way to update zfs version on a running livecd? Thanks for helping out! Erwin Ian Collins wrote: Erwin

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to verify ecc for ram is active and enabled?

2010-03-03 Thread Simon Breden
I ran smbios and for the memory-related section I saw the following: IDSIZE TYPE 6415 SMB_TYPE_MEMARRAY (physical memory array) Location: 3 (system board or motherboard) Use: 3 (system memory) ECC: 3 (none) Number of Slots/Sockets: 4 Memory Error Data: Not Supported Max Capa

Re: [zfs-discuss] recovering data - howto mount rpool to newpool?

2010-03-03 Thread Ian Collins
Erwin Panen wrote: Richard, thanks for replying; I seem to have complicated matters: I shutdown the system (past midnight here :-) )and seeing your reply come in, fired it up again to further test. The system wouldn't come up anymore (dumped in maintenance shell) as it would try to import both

Re: [zfs-discuss] recovering data - howto mount rpool to newpool?

2010-03-03 Thread Erwin Panen
Richard, thanks for replying; I seem to have complicated matters: I shutdown the system (past midnight here :-) )and seeing your reply come in, fired it up again to further test. The system wouldn't come up anymore (dumped in maintenance shell) as it would try to import both rpool systems (I gue

Re: [zfs-discuss] What's the advantage of using multiple filesystems in a

2010-03-03 Thread Simon Breden
tem. Within 'tank/media' I can create 'tank/media/music', 'tank/media/photo', 'tank/media/video' etc. For the home file systems, I might create 'tank/home' and then nest 'tank/home/fred', 'tank/home/wilma' etc. For easy, regular

Re: [zfs-discuss] recovering data - howto mount rpool to newpool?

2010-03-03 Thread Ian Collins
Erwin Panen wrote: Hi, I'm not very familiar with manipulating zfs. This is what happened: I have an osol 2009.06 system on which I have some files that I need to recover. Due to my ignorance and blindly testing, I have managed to get this system to be unbootable... I know, my own fault. So

Re: [zfs-discuss] recovering data - howto mount rpool to newpool?

2010-03-03 Thread Richard Elling
You need the -R option to zpool import. Try the procedure documented here: http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Troubleshooting_Guide#Resolving_ZFS_Mount_Point_Problems_That_Prevent_Successful_Booting -- richard On Mar 3, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Erwin Panen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not v

[zfs-discuss] recovering data - howto mount rpool to newpool?

2010-03-03 Thread Erwin Panen
Hi, I'm not very familiar with manipulating zfs. This is what happened: I have an osol 2009.06 system on which I have some files that I need to recover. Due to my ignorance and blindly testing, I have managed to get this system to be unbootable... I know, my own fault. So now I have a second

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to verify ecc for ram is active and enabled?

2010-03-03 Thread Robert Milkowski
On 03/03/2010 16:33, Darren J Moffat wrote: Robert Milkowski wrote: On 03/03/2010 15:19, Tomas Ögren wrote: Memtest doesn't want potential errors to be hidden by ECC, so it disables ECC to see them if they occur. still it is valid question - is there a way under OS to check if ECC is disab

Re: [zfs-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-03 Thread Svein Skogen
The problem is that all disks I've seen so far, has been more fragile than tapes (given a real disaster, such as a clumsy sysadmin, or a burning home falling on top of them)... Trust me to knock over a disk. //Svein -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-03 Thread Erik Ableson
Comments inline : On Wednesday, March 03, 2010, at 06:35PM, "Svein Skogen" wrote: > >However trying to wrap my head around solaris and backups (I'm used to >FreeBSD) is now leaving me with a nasty headache, and still no closer to a >real solution. I need something that on regular intervals pu

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to verify ecc for ram is active and enabled?

2010-03-03 Thread Miles Nordin
> "a" == ace writes: a> However, further down "ECC" is identified as being "off". Yet a> there is a column for "ECC Errs". a> I don't know how to interpret this. Is ECC active or not? ``Short circuit a data line or preferably a parity bit data line on one of the DDR memory m

Re: [zfs-discuss] Any way to fix ZFS "sparse file bug" #6792701

2010-03-03 Thread Geoff Shipman
Per Francois's response of 11:02 MT Yes adding the patch will free the space on the file system. From: Francois Napoleoni To: Geoff Shipman Cc: Edward Ned Harvey , zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org , 'Robert

Re: [zfs-discuss] Any way to fix ZFS "sparse file bug" #6792701

2010-03-03 Thread Robert Loper
So the question remains... if I install patch 14144{45}-09 (by a LU to Solaris 10 upd 8) will that allow the filesystem (not an rpool) to free up the space? - Robert On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Geoff Shipman wrote: > IDR's are fixes for troubles from the initial development state. The > p

Re: [zfs-discuss] Any way to fix ZFS "sparse file bug" #6792701

2010-03-03 Thread Geoff Shipman
IDR's are fixes for troubles from the initial development state. The patches noted are the official fixes. On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 11:03, Robert Loper wrote: > Can you clarify what this "IDR" is? I do not have Sun Support on this > specific server. > > - Robert Loper > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at

Re: [zfs-discuss] Any way to fix ZFS "sparse file bug" #6792701

2010-03-03 Thread Robert Loper
Can you clarify what this "IDR" is? I do not have Sun Support on this specific server. - Robert Loper On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Francois Napoleoni < francois.napole...@sun.com> wrote: > From my experience with customer hitting this bug, installing the now > obsolete IDR and rebooting wa

Re: [zfs-discuss] Any way to fix ZFS "sparse file bug" #6792701

2010-03-03 Thread Francois Napoleoni
Yes iT will ... But this can be a good time to initiate/justify that useful backup which we never had time to do before :) . F. Geoff Shipman wrote: Right it would get rid of the CR, but does it free the disk space from an event that occurred prior to patching ?. On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 10:51

Re: [zfs-discuss] Any way to fix ZFS "sparse file bug" #6792701

2010-03-03 Thread Francois Napoleoni
Yes i will ... But this can be a good time to initiate/justify that useful backup which we never had time to do before :) . F. Geoff Shipman wrote: Right it would get rid of the CR, but does it free the disk space from an event that occurred prior to patching ?. On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 10

Re: [zfs-discuss] Any way to fix ZFS "sparse file bug" #6792701

2010-03-03 Thread Geoff Shipman
Right it would get rid of the CR, but does it free the disk space from an event that occurred prior to patching ?. On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 10:51, Francois Napoleoni wrote: > From my experience with customer hitting this bug, installing the now > obsolete IDR and rebooting was enoug hto get ride

Re: [zfs-discuss] System crash on zpool attach & object_count == usedobjs failed assertion

2010-03-03 Thread Nigel Smith
Hi Stephen If your system is crashing while attaching the new device, are you getting a core dump file? If so, it would be interesting to examine the file with mdb, to see the stack backtrace, as this may give a clue to what's going wrong. What storage controller you are using for the disks? An

Re: [zfs-discuss] Any way to fix ZFS "sparse file bug" #6792701

2010-03-03 Thread Francois Napoleoni
From my experience with customer hitting this bug, installing the now obsolete IDR and rebooting was enoug hto get ride of these sparse file bug. F. Geoff Shipman wrote: The Solaris 10 Update 8 has the fix for 6792701 included. This is part of kernel patches 141444-09 (sparc), 141445-09 (x86)

Re: [zfs-discuss] Any way to fix ZFS "sparse file bug" #6792701

2010-03-03 Thread Geoff Shipman
The Solaris 10 Update 8 has the fix for 6792701 included. This is part of kernel patches 141444-09 (sparc), 141445-09 (x86). For OpenSolaris build 118 or later contains the fix so in the development builds. This avoids future problems with the CR but if your currently effected by the problem

[zfs-discuss] Moving Storage to opensolaris+zfs. What about backup?

2010-03-03 Thread Svein Skogen
Until now, I've ran Windows Storage server 2008, but the ... lack of iSCSI performance has gotten me so fed up that I've now moved all the files off the server, to install opensolaris with two zpools, and nfs+smb+iSCSI sharing towards my windows clients, and vmware ESXi boxes (two of them). So f

Re: [zfs-discuss] Who is using ZFS ACL's in production?

2010-03-03 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Wed, March 3, 2010 10:23, Paul B. Henson wrote: > On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > >> It's the normal way to do it; not sure where in the Linux world it >> arose, >> but I first saw it in some early distribution. It's done automatically >> by >> "adduser". In my perception, it'

Re: [zfs-discuss] Any way to fix ZFS "sparse file bug" #6792701

2010-03-03 Thread Francois Napoleoni
Sorrymy, mistake, i did not checked this one for a while ... patch for this CR is 14144{45}-09 aka Solaris 10 update 8 kernel parch. Edward Ned Harvey wrote: I don’t know the answer to your question, but I am running the same version of OS you are, and this bug could affect us. Do you have an

Re: [zfs-discuss] Question about multiple RAIDZ vdevs using slices on the same disk

2010-03-03 Thread Tonmaus
Hi, following the zfs best practise guide, my understanding is that neither choice is very good. There is maybe a third choice, that is pool --vdev1 --disk --disk . --disk ... --vdev n --disk --disk . --

Re: [zfs-discuss] Any way to fix ZFS "sparse file bug" #6792701

2010-03-03 Thread Francois Napoleoni
If you have a valid Solaris Support contract you can ask for the corresponding IDR to fix this issue. (Hi to Richard E. ... who must be boiling right now :) ) F. Edward Ned Harvey wrote: I don’t know the answer to your question, but I am running the same version of OS you are, and this bug co

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to verify ecc for ram is active and enabled?

2010-03-03 Thread Darren J Moffat
Robert Milkowski wrote: On 03/03/2010 15:19, Tomas Ögren wrote: Memtest doesn't want potential errors to be hidden by ECC, so it disables ECC to see them if they occur. still it is valid question - is there a way under OS to check if ECC is disabled or enabled? Maybe something in the

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to verify ecc for ram is active and enabled?

2010-03-03 Thread Robert Milkowski
On 03/03/2010 15:19, Tomas Ögren wrote: Memtest doesn't want potential errors to be hidden by ECC, so it disables ECC to see them if they occur. still it is valid question - is there a way under OS to check if ECC is disabled or enabled? -- Robert Milkowski http://milek.blogspot.com

Re: [zfs-discuss] swap across multiple pools

2010-03-03 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On 03/03/10 05:19, Matt Keenan wrote: In a multipool environment, would be make sense to add swap to a pool outside or the root pool, either as the sole swap dataset to be used or as extra swap ? Yes. I do it routinely, primarily to preserve space on boot disks on large-memory systems. swap

Re: [zfs-discuss] Who is using ZFS ACL's in production?

2010-03-03 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Wed, 3 Mar 2010, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > It's the normal way to do it; not sure where in the Linux world it arose, > but I first saw it in some early distribution. It's done automatically by > "adduser". In my perception, it's "best practice". So the question is, > why do you NOT want to

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-help] ZFS two way replication

2010-03-03 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
Sorry for double-post. This thread was posted separately to opensolaris-help and zfs-discuss. So I'm replying to both lists. > I'm wondering what the possibilities of two-way replication are for a > ZFS storage pool. Based on all the description you gave, I wouldn't call this two-way replicati

Re: [zfs-discuss] Any way to fix ZFS "sparse file bug" #6792701

2010-03-03 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
I don't know the answer to your question, but I am running the same version of OS you are, and this bug could affect us. Do you have any link to any documentation about this bug? I'd like to forward something to inform the other admins at work. From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Who is using ZFS ACL's in production?

2010-03-03 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Tue, March 2, 2010 15:12, Paul B. Henson wrote: > On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > >> Hmmm; the "lack of flexibility" you talk about comes from not using the >> security model sensibly -- having per-person groups is very useful in >> that security model. > > I have 70 odd thousand

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to verify ecc for ram is active and enabled?

2010-03-03 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 03 March, 2010 - casper@sun.com sent me these 0,8K bytes: > > >Is there a method to view the status of the rams ecc single or double bit > >errors? I would like to > confirm that ecc on my xeon e5520 and ecc ram are performing their role since > memtest is ambiguous. > > > > > >I am run

Re: [zfs-discuss] Filebench Performance is weird

2010-03-03 Thread Richard Elling
On Mar 2, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Abdullah Al-Dahlawi wrote: > Greeting Richard > > After spending alomost 48 hours working on this problem, I believe I've > discovered the BUG in Filebench !!!. > > I do not believe it is the change directory that you have indicated below > cause this directory is u

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to verify ecc for ram is active and enabled?

2010-03-03 Thread Casper . Dik
>Is there a method to view the status of the rams ecc single or double bit >errors? I would like to confirm that ecc on my xeon e5520 and ecc ram are performing their role since memtest is ambiguous. > > >I am running memory test on a p6t6 ws, e5520 xeon, 2gb samsung ecc modules and >this is w

[zfs-discuss] How to verify ecc for ram is active and enabled?

2010-03-03 Thread ace
Is there a method to view the status of the rams ecc single or double bit errors? I would like to confirm that ecc on my xeon e5520 and ecc ram are performing their role since memtest is ambiguous. I am running memory test on a p6t6 ws, e5520 xeon, 2gb samsung ecc modules and this is what is o

Re: [zfs-discuss] Expand zpool capacity

2010-03-03 Thread Vladimir Leitenberger
Hmm is it pissoble to upgrade my current zfs version to the new one, without updating whole system (pkg image-update)? The Problem is, i've made 5.1 Gb free space and tried to make a normal update, but upgrading from 111b to current 133 is a huge jump. 1050 Mb must be downloaded and the instal

Re: [zfs-discuss] swap across multiple pools

2010-03-03 Thread Casper . Dik
>The default install for OpenSolaris creates a single root pool, and creates a >swap and dump dataset within this pool. > >In a mutipool environment, would be make sense to add swap to a pool outside >or >the root pool, either as the sole swap dataset to be used or as extra swap ? > >Would this

Re: [zfs-discuss] swap across multiple pools

2010-03-03 Thread James C. McPherson
On 3/03/10 11:19 PM, Matt Keenan wrote: The default install for OpenSolaris creates a single root pool, and creates a swap and dump dataset within this pool. In a mutipool environment, would be make sense to add swap to a pool outside or the root pool, either as the sole swap dataset to be used

[zfs-discuss] swap across multiple pools

2010-03-03 Thread Matt Keenan
The default install for OpenSolaris creates a single root pool, and creates a swap and dump dataset within this pool. In a mutipool environment, would be make sense to add swap to a pool outside or the root pool, either as the sole swap dataset to be used or as extra swap ? Would this have an

[zfs-discuss] Question about multiple RAIDZ vdevs using slices on the same disk

2010-03-03 Thread Daniel Smedegaard Buus
Hi all :) I've been wanting to make the switch from XFS over RAID5 to ZFS/RAIDZ2 for some time now, ever since I read about ZFS the first time. Absolutely amazing beast! I've built my own little hobby server at home and have a boatload of disks in different sizes that I've been using together t

Re: [zfs-discuss] System crash on zpool attach & object_count == usedobjs failed assertion

2010-03-03 Thread Nigel Smith
I've just run zdb against the two pools on my home OpenSolaris box, and now both are showing this failed assertion, with the counts off by one. # zdb rpool >/dev/null Assertion failed: object_count == usedobjs (0x18da2 == 0x18da3), file ../zdb.c, line 1460 Abort (core dumped) # zdb rz2po