[zfs-discuss] iscsi on 2 hosts for mutual backup

2009-12-15 Thread Frank Cusack
I'm considering setting up a poor man's cluster. The hardware I'd like to use for some critical services is especially attractive for price/space/performance reasons, however it only has a single power supply. I'm using S10 U8 and can't migrate to OpenSolaris. It's fine if a server dies (ie, po

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool fragmentation issues?

2009-12-15 Thread Brent Jones
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Bill Sprouse wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I hope this is the right forum for this question.  A customer is using a > Thumper as an NFS file server to provide the mail store for multiple email > servers (Dovecot).  They find that when a zpool is freshly created and > p

Re: [zfs-discuss] force 4k writes?

2009-12-15 Thread Richard Elling
On Dec 15, 2009, at 5:31 PM, Bill Sprouse wrote: This is most likely a naive question on my part. If recordsize is set to 4k (or a multiple of 4k), will ZFS ever write a record that is less than 4k or not a multiple of 4k? Yes. The recordsize is the upper limit for a file record. This i

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool fragmentation issues?

2009-12-15 Thread Michael Herf
I have also had slow scrubbing on filesystems with lots of files, and I agree that it does seem to degrade badly. For me, it seemed to go from 24 hours to 72 hours in a matter of a few weeks. I did these things on a pool in-place, which helped a lot (no rebuilding): 1. reduced number of snapshots

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool fragmentation issues?

2009-12-15 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Bill Sprouse wrote: Hi Everyone, I hope this is the right forum for this question. A customer is using a Thumper as an NFS file server to provide the mail store for multiple email servers (Dovecot). They find that when a zpool is freshly created and It seems that Dove

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool fragmentation issues?

2009-12-15 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 17:28 -0800, Bill Sprouse wrote: > After > running for a while (couple of months) the zpool seems to get > "fragmented", backups take 72 hours and a scrub takes about 180 > hours. Are there periodic snapshots being created in this pool? Can they run with atime turne

[zfs-discuss] force 4k writes?

2009-12-15 Thread Bill Sprouse
This is most likely a naive question on my part. If recordsize is set to 4k (or a multiple of 4k), will ZFS ever write a record that is less than 4k or not a multiple of 4k? This includes metadata. Does compression have any effect on this? thanks for the help, bill __

[zfs-discuss] zpool fragmentation issues?

2009-12-15 Thread Bill Sprouse
Hi Everyone, I hope this is the right forum for this question. A customer is using a Thumper as an NFS file server to provide the mail store for multiple email servers (Dovecot). They find that when a zpool is freshly created and populated with mail boxes, even to the extent of 80-90% c

Re: [zfs-discuss] Convert from FBSD

2009-12-15 Thread Allen
Thanks for letting me know. I plan on attempting in a couple of weeks. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] all zfs snapshot made by TimeSlider destroyed after upgrading to b129

2009-12-15 Thread Daniel Carosone
None of these look like the issue either. With 128, I did have to edit the code to avoid the month rollover error, and add the missing dependency dbus-python26. I think I have a new install that went to 129 without having auto snapshots enabled yet. When I can get to that machine later, I wil

Re: [zfs-discuss] all zfs snapshot made by TimeSlider destroyed after upgrading to b129

2009-12-15 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Okay, not much help. I found a couple more problems reported with workarounds, here: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6904417 time-slider unable to start after upgrade to snv_128 http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=13301 time-slider ignores all filesystems

Re: [zfs-discuss] Space not freed?

2009-12-15 Thread Cindy Swearingen
I do not see this problem in build 129: # mkfile 10g /export1/file123 # zfs list NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT export1 10.3G 33.0G 10.3G /export1 export1/cindys21K 33.0G21K /export1/cindys # rm /export1/file123 . . . # zfs list NAME

Re: [zfs-discuss] snv_129 dedup panic

2009-12-15 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Hi Markus, CR 6909931 is filed to cover this problem. We'll let you know when a fix is putback. Thanks, Cindy On 12/15/09 10:24, Cindy Swearingen wrote: Hi Markus, We're checking your panic below against a similar problem reported very recently. The bug is filed and if its the same problem,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Dedupe reporting incorrect savings

2009-12-15 Thread Giridhar K R
As I have noted above after editing the initial post, its the same locally too. >>I found that the "ls -l" on the zpool also reports 51,193,782,290 bytes -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.or

Re: [zfs-discuss] hard drive choice, TLER/ERC/CCTL

2009-12-15 Thread Miles Nordin
> "n" == Nathan writes: n> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-Limited_Error_Recovery This sounds silly. Does it actually work for you? It seems like comparing 7 seconds to the normal 30 seconds would be useless. Instead you want to compare (7 seconds * n levels * of cargo-cult retry

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Dedupe reporting incorrect savings

2009-12-15 Thread Henrik Johansson
Hello, On Dec 15, 2009, at 8:02 AM, Giridhar K R wrote: > Hi, > Created a zpool with 64k recordsize and enabled dedupe on it. > zpool create -O recordsize=64k TestPool device1 > zfs set dedup=on TestPool > > I copied files onto this pool over nfs from a windows client. > > Here is the output of

Re: [zfs-discuss] compressratio vs. dedupratio

2009-12-15 Thread Craig S. Bell
I take your point Mike. Yes, this seems to be an inconsistency in accounting. I have simply become accustomed to this (esp. when dealing with virtual disk images), so I just don't think about it, but it *is* harder to balance accounts. For instance, if my guest cleans up it's vdisk by writing

Re: [zfs-discuss] Convert from FBSD

2009-12-15 Thread Ed Jobs
On Tuesday 15 December 2009 20:47, Allen wrote: > I would like to load OpenSolaris on my file server. I have previously > loaded FBSD using zfs as the storage file system. Will OpenSolaris be > able to import the pool and mount the file system created on FBSD or will > I have to recreate the t

[zfs-discuss] Convert from FBSD

2009-12-15 Thread Allen
I would like to load OpenSolaris on my file server. I have previously loaded FBSD using zfs as the storage file system. Will OpenSolaris be able to import the pool and mount the file system created on FBSD or will I have to recreate the the file system. -- This message posted from opensolaris

Re: [zfs-discuss] snv_129 dedup panic

2009-12-15 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Hi Markus, We're checking your panic below against a similar problem reported very recently. The bug is filed and if its the same problem, a fix should be available soon. We'll be in touch. Cindy On 12/15/09 08:07, Markus Kovero wrote: Hi, I encountered panic and spontaneous reboot after canc

Re: [zfs-discuss] raid-z as a boot pool

2009-12-15 Thread Lori Alt
On 12/15/09 09:26, Luca Morettoni wrote: As reported here: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+zfs/zfsbootFAQ we can't boot from a pool with raidz, any plan to have this feature? At this time, there is no scheduled availability for raidz boot. It's on the list of possible enhan

[zfs-discuss] raid-z as a boot pool

2009-12-15 Thread Luca Morettoni
As reported here: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+zfs/zfsbootFAQ we can't boot from a pool with raidz, any plan to have this feature? -- Luca Morettoni | OpenSolaris SCA #OS0344 Web/BLOG: http://www.morettoni.net/ | http://twitter.com/morettoni jugUmbria founder: https://jugU

Re: [zfs-discuss] all zfs snapshot made by TimeSlider destroyed after upgrading to b129

2009-12-15 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Hi-- I haven't had a chance to reproduce this problem but Niall's heads up message, says that default schedules that include "frequent" still work: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-auto-snapshot/2009-November/000199.html I included a snippet of his instructions below. If this doesn'

Re: [zfs-discuss] Something wrong with zfs mount

2009-12-15 Thread Martin Uhl
> We import the pool with the -R parameter, might that contribute to the > problem? Perhaps a zfs mount -a bug in correspondence with the -R parameter? This Bugreport seems to confirm this: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6612218 Note that the /zz directory mentioned in the bugrep

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing ZFS drive pathing

2009-12-15 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Great news. Thanks for letting us know. Cindy On 12/15/09 06:48, Cesare wrote: Hy all, after upgrade PowerPath (from 5.2 to 5.2 SP 2) and then retry commands to create zpool, it was executed successfully: -- r...@solaris10# zpool history History for 'tank': 2009-12-15.14:37:00 zpool create -f

[zfs-discuss] snv_129 dedup panic

2009-12-15 Thread Markus Kovero
Hi, I encountered panic and spontaneous reboot after canceling zfs send from another server. It took around 2-3hrs to remove 2TB data server had sent and then: Dec 15 16:54:05 foo ^Mpanic[cpu2]/thread=ff0916724560: Dec 15 16:54:05 foo genunix: [ID 683410 kern.notice] BAD TRAP: type=0 (#de D

Re: [zfs-discuss] compressratio vs. dedupratio

2009-12-15 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Craig S. Bell wrote: > Mike, I believe that ZFS treats runs of zeros as holes in a sparse file, > rather than as regular data.  So they aren't really present to be counted for > compressratio. > > http://blogs.sun.com/bonwick/entry/seek_hole_and_seek_data > http:

Re: [zfs-discuss] DeDup and Compression - Reverse Order?

2009-12-15 Thread Andrey Kuzmin
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote: > Robert Milkowski writes: >> On 13/12/2009 20:51, Steve Radich, BitShop, Inc. wrote: >>> Because if you can de-dup anyway why bother to compress THEN check? >>> This SEEMS to be the behaviour - i.e. I would suspect many of the >>> file

Re: [zfs-discuss] Something wrong with zfs mount

2009-12-15 Thread Gonzalo Siero
Martin, i think we should continue offline. Anyway see my comments/answers inline. Thanks, Gonzalo. --> Martin Uhl wrote: The dirs blocking the mount are created at import/mount time. how you know that?? In the previous example I could reconstruct that using zfs mount. Just lo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing ZFS drive pathing

2009-12-15 Thread Cesare
Hy all, after upgrade PowerPath (from 5.2 to 5.2 SP 2) and then retry commands to create zpool, it was executed successfully: -- r...@solaris10# zpool history History for 'tank': 2009-12-15.14:37:00 zpool create -f tank mirror emcpower7a emcpower5a 2009-12-15.14:37:20 zpool add tank mirror emcpow

[zfs-discuss] FYI: NAS storage server in OpenSolaris JeOS Prototype

2009-12-15 Thread Rudolf Kutina
Hi All, NAS storage server in OpenSolaris JeOS Prototype http://blogs.sun.com/VirtualGuru/entry/nas_storage_server_in_opensolaris Nice day Rudolf Kutina ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listin

[zfs-discuss] Gluster Storage Platform 3.0 GA Release

2009-12-15 Thread Harshavardhana
Greetings! The Gluster Team is happy to announce the release of Gluster Storage Platform 3.0. The Gluster Storage Platform is based on the popular open source clustered file system GlusterFS, integrating the file system, an operating system layer, a web based management interface, and an easy to

Re: [zfs-discuss] DeDup and Compression - Reverse Order?

2009-12-15 Thread Kjetil Torgrim Homme
Robert Milkowski writes: > On 13/12/2009 20:51, Steve Radich, BitShop, Inc. wrote: >> Because if you can de-dup anyway why bother to compress THEN check? >> This SEEMS to be the behaviour - i.e. I would suspect many of the >> files I'm writing are dups - however I see high cpu use even though >> o

Re: [zfs-discuss] Something wrong with zfs mount

2009-12-15 Thread Martin Uhl
>>The dirs blocking the mount are created at import/mount time. >how you know that?? In the previous example I could reconstruct that using zfs mount. Just look at the last post. I doubt ZFS removes mount directories. >If you're correct you should been able to reproduce >the problem by doing a

Re: [zfs-discuss] DeDup and Compression - Reverse Order?

2009-12-15 Thread Darren J Moffat
Cyril Plisko wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Andrey Kuzmin wrote: Right, but 'verify' seems to be 'extreme safety' and thus rather rare use case. Hmm, dunno. I wouldn't set anything, but scratch file system to dedup=on. Anything of even slight significance is set to dedup=verify. Wh

Re: [zfs-discuss] Changing ZFS drive pathing

2009-12-15 Thread Cesare
Hy Cindy, I downloaded that document and I'll follow istruction before update the host. I just tried the procedure on a different host (but did not have the problem I wrote) and it worked. I'll follow news after upgrade the host where the problem occur. Cesare On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:12 PM, C

Re: [zfs-discuss] compressratio vs. dedupratio

2009-12-15 Thread Craig S. Bell
Mike, I believe that ZFS treats runs of zeros as holes in a sparse file, rather than as regular data. So they aren't really present to be counted for compressratio. http://blogs.sun.com/bonwick/entry/seek_hole_and_seek_data http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2008-April/017565.htm