Re: [zfs-discuss] Ssd for zil on a dell 2950

2009-08-22 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Sun, Aug 23 at 14:11, Tristan Ball wrote: Hang on, in reading that his initial results were 50 writes a second, with the default xfs write barriers, which to me implies that the drive is honouring the cache flush. The fact that write rate jumps so significantly when he turns off barrie

[zfs-discuss] zfs send/receive and compression

2009-08-22 Thread James Lever
Is there a mechanism by which you can perform a zfs send | zfs receive and not have the data uncompressed and recompressed at the other end? I have a gzip-9 compressed filesystem that I want to backup to a remote system and would prefer not to have to recompress everything again at such gre

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ssd for zil on a dell 2950

2009-08-22 Thread Tristan Ball
Ross Walker wrote: [snip] We turned up our X4540s, and this same tar unpack took over 17 minutes! We disabled the ZIL for testing, and we dropped this to under 1 minute. With the X25-E as a slog, we were able to run this test in 2-4 minutes, same as the old storage. That's pretty impres

Re: [zfs-discuss] Need 1.5 TB drive size to use for array for testing

2009-08-22 Thread Brandon High
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Jason Pfingstmann wrote: > Any thoughts on this?  I don't see why it shouldn't work, but I've only been > tinkering with ZFS for 2 days now and this is all unexplored territory. You shouldn't need to fake the size of your file-backed vdevs. If you plan on having

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to prevent /usr/bin/chmod from followingsymboliclinks?

2009-08-22 Thread Roland Mainz
Kris Larsen wrote: > > Thanks. It works for GNU-style chmod usage. Erm... technically this isn't GNU "chmod", it's a different "chmod" implementation which includes GNU+BSD+MacOSX options... > But aren't ACL's supported? No, not yet... but it's on my todo list (the tricky part is to find the pe

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ssd for zil on a dell 2950

2009-08-22 Thread Ross Walker
On Aug 22, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Ross Walker wrote: On Aug 22, 2009, at 5:21 PM, Neil Perrin wrote: On 08/20/09 06:41, Greg Mason wrote: Something our users do quite a bit of is untarring archives with a lot of small files. Also, many small, quick writes are also one of the many workloads

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ssd for zil on a dell 2950

2009-08-22 Thread Ross Walker
On Aug 22, 2009, at 5:21 PM, Neil Perrin wrote: On 08/20/09 06:41, Greg Mason wrote: Something our users do quite a bit of is untarring archives with a lot of small files. Also, many small, quick writes are also one of the many workloads our users have. Real-world test: our old Linux-base

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to prevent /usr/bin/chmod from following symboliclinks?

2009-08-22 Thread Richard Elling
On Aug 22, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Kris Larsen wrote: Thanks. It works for GNU-style chmod usage. But aren't ACL's supported? gnu chmod doesn't do ACLs. Back when I was managing lots of users and needed to do such things, find scripts seemed to be much more useful and flexible. -R options can make

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to prevent /usr/bin/chmod from following symboliclinks?

2009-08-22 Thread Kris Larsen
Thanks. It works for GNU-style chmod usage. But aren't ACL's supported? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration input needed.

2009-08-22 Thread Richard Elling
On Aug 22, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Kees Nuyt wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:04:49 -0700, Richard Elling wrote: You can get in the same ballpark with at least two top-level raidz2 devs and copies=2. If you have three or more top-level raidz2 vdevs, then you can even do better with copies=3 ;-) Plea

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to prevent /usr/bin/chmod from following symboliclinks?

2009-08-22 Thread Roland Mainz
Kris Larsen wrote: > > Hello! > > How can I prevent /usr/bin/chmod from following symbolic links? I can't find > any -P option in the documentation (and it doesn't work either..). Maybe find > can be used in some way? [snip] Try: 1. Start ksh93 $ ksh93 2. Load "chmod" builtin command $ builtin

Re: [zfs-discuss] Ssd for zil on a dell 2950

2009-08-22 Thread Neil Perrin
On 08/20/09 06:41, Greg Mason wrote: Something our users do quite a bit of is untarring archives with a lot of small files. Also, many small, quick writes are also one of the many workloads our users have. Real-world test: our old Linux-based NFS server allowed us to unpack a particular tar

[zfs-discuss] How to prevent /usr/bin/chmod from following symbolic links?

2009-08-22 Thread Kris Larsen
Hello! How can I prevent /usr/bin/chmod from following symbolic links? I can't find any -P option in the documentation (and it doesn't work either..). Maybe find can be used in some way? Background: When I'm running chmod on my backup folder structure containing a copy of a Linux root director

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration input needed.

2009-08-22 Thread Kees Nuyt
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:04:49 -0700, Richard Elling wrote: > You can get in the same ballpark with at least two top-level > raidz2 devs and copies=2. If you have three or more > top-level raidz2 vdevs, then you can even do better > with copies=3 ;-) Please note that copies=3 will be obsoleted so

[zfs-discuss] About snapshots auto or cron based

2009-08-22 Thread Harry Putnam
I would like some input about the use of zfs snapshot. The Auto snapshot is nice on rpool but in some of the other zfs fs I've created that kind of frequency doesn't seem necessary. However generating my own cron setup for a dozen or so fs to create snapshots, maybe only when data is transferred,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Failure of Quicktime *.mov files after move to zfs disk

2009-08-22 Thread Harry Putnam
Scott Laird writes: > Checksum all of the files using something like md5sum and see if > they're actually identical. Then test each step of the copy and see > which one is corrupting your files. > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: [...] I didn't do that since I've found th

Re: [zfs-discuss] What's eating my disk space? Missing snapshots?

2009-08-22 Thread Al Hopper
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Robert Milkowski wrote: > Matthew Stevenson wrote: > > Ha ha, I know! Like I say, I do get COW principles! > > I guess what I'm after is for someone to look at my specific example (in txt > file attached to first post) and tell me specifically how to find out wh

Re: [zfs-discuss] turn off an usb drive

2009-08-22 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, dick hoogendijk wrote: Probably a very easy question for ZFS experts. I have an external USB drive running 24/7 but would like to turn it off once in a while. It is on ZFS. Is it enough to umount it and tunr off the drive or do I have to *export* the zfs filesystem first an

Re: [zfs-discuss] Not sure how to do this in zfs

2009-08-22 Thread Thomas Burgess
if you are talking about NFS, this is due to how ZFS file systems work. When you share a ZFS filesystem via NFS it will share everything IN that filesystem but if you have 2 filesystems, it will only share that second fs's mount point. what i mean is, if you have something like pool/filesystem an

Re: [zfs-discuss] Failure of Quicktime *.mov files after move to zfs disk

2009-08-22 Thread Thomas Burgess
i had something similar happen to me when i switched to ZFS but it turned out to be an error with cpio and the mkv format...i'm not sure exactly why but whenever i tried to backup mkv files with cpio onto ZFS it would give me corrupted files. On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:

[zfs-discuss] turn off an usb drive

2009-08-22 Thread dick hoogendijk
Probably a very easy question for ZFS experts. I have an external USB drive running 24/7 but would like to turn it off once in a while. It is on ZFS. Is it enough to umount it and tunr off the drive or do I have to *export* the zfs filesystem first and later import it again? -- Dick Hoogendijk -

Re: [zfs-discuss] Need 1.5 TB drive size to use for array for testing

2009-08-22 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 12:00:42AM -0700, Jason Pfingstmann wrote: > Thanks for the reply! > > The reason I'm not waiting until I have the disks is mostly because it will > take me several months to get the funds together and in the meantime, I need > the extra space 1 or 2 drives gets me. Sinc

Re: [zfs-discuss] Failure of Quicktime *.mov files after move to zfs disk

2009-08-22 Thread Chris Ridd
On 21 Aug 2009, at 22:35, Scott Laird wrote: Checksum all of the files using something like md5sum and see if they're actually identical. Then test each step of the copy and see which one is corrupting your files. It might be worth checking if they've got funny Unicode chars in the names.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Need 1.5 TB drive size to use for array for testing

2009-08-22 Thread Jason Pfingstmann
Thanks for the reply! The reason I'm not waiting until I have the disks is mostly because it will take me several months to get the funds together and in the meantime, I need the extra space 1 or 2 drives gets me. Since the sparse files will only take up the space in use, if I've migrated 2 of