[zfs-discuss] Virutal zfs server vs hardware zfs server

2009-02-25 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm experimenting with a zfs home server. Running Opensol-11 by way of vmware on WinXP. It seems one way to avoid all the hardware problems one might run into trying to install opensol on available or spare hardware. Are there some bad gotchas about running opensol/zfs through vmware and never g

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can VirtualBox run a 64 bit guests on 32 bit host

2009-02-25 Thread Harry Putnam
Mark writes: > I doubt it too. Try here to be sure (no need to install, unzip in a folder > and just run). > > CPUID > > Check the processor features when you run the app. I hope that helps. That is a nice little tool. Thanks

Re: [zfs-discuss] GSoC 09 zfs ideas?

2009-02-25 Thread Darren J Moffat
C. Bergström wrote: Hi everyone. I've got a couple ideas for good zfs GSoC projects, but wanted to stir some interest. Anyone interested to help mentor? The deadline is around the corner so if planning hasn't happened yet it should start soon. If there is interest who would the org admini

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can VirtualBox run a 64 bit guests on 32 bit host

2009-02-25 Thread Mark
Hi Harry, I doubt it too. Try here to be sure (no need to install, unzip in a folder and just run). CPUID Check the processor features when you run the app. I hope that helps. /Mark :-) 2009/2/26 Tim > Then you would be looking for AMD-V extensions. VT is only for

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can VirtualBox run a 64 bit guests on 32 bit host

2009-02-25 Thread Tim
Then you would be looking for AMD-V extensions. VT is only for Intel chips. I highly doubt a 3200+ has the AMD-V extensions. --Tim On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > I've seen some talk on vmware forums indicating it is possible to run > 64 bit guests on a 32 bit host as

[zfs-discuss] Can VirtualBox run a 64 bit guests on 32 bit host

2009-02-25 Thread Harry Putnam
I've seen some talk on vmware forums indicating it is possible to run 64 bit guests on a 32 bit host as long as something called VT technology is available. I have an athlon64 +3200 running 32 bit WinXP pro. I wondered if I would be able to run opensol in 64 bit as guest inside VirtualBox? I sus

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zones-discuss] Solaris 8/9 branded zones on ZFS root?

2009-02-25 Thread Nicolas Dorfsman
Le 25 févr. 09 à 23:12, Timothy Kennedy a écrit : Rich Teer wrote: I have a situation where I need to consolidate a few servers running Solaris 9 and 8. If the application doesn't run natively on Solaris 10 or Nevada, I was thinking of using Solars 9 or 8 branded zones. My intent would be fo

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zones-discuss] Solaris 8/9 branded zones on ZFS root?

2009-02-25 Thread Rich Teer
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Timothy Kennedy wrote: > That's correct. I have some solaris 8 zones running under cluster > control, where zonepath is zfs, and they're doing just fine. > Nothing special had to be done. Excellent! Just the news I was hoping for. Thanks again, -- Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA,

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs streams & data corruption

2009-02-25 Thread Miles Nordin
> "gp" == Greg Palmer writes: gp> Relying on the equivalent of crashing the database to perform gp> backups isn't how professionals get the job done. well, nevertheless, it is, and should be, supported by SQLite2. gp> Let's take a simple case of a transaction which consists of

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs streams & data corruption

2009-02-25 Thread Greg Palmer
Miles Nordin wrote: gp> Performing a checkpoint will perform such tasks as making sure gp> that all transactions recorded in the log but not yet written gp> to the database are written out and that the system is not in gp> the middle of a write when you grab the data. great copyi

Re: [zfs-discuss] Motherboard for home zfs/solaris file server

2009-02-25 Thread Brandon High
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Tim wrote: > Of course it does. Competition directly affects the features provided on > everyone in a market segment's products. The server and workstation market demands ECC. Any die that would be used in the server or workstation market would need to have ECC.

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zones-discuss] Solaris 8/9 branded zones on ZFS root?

2009-02-25 Thread Timothy Kennedy
Rich Teer wrote: I have a situation where I need to consolidate a few servers running Solaris 9 and 8. If the application doesn't run natively on Solaris 10 or Nevada, I was thinking of using Solars 9 or 8 branded zones. My intent would be for the global zone to use ZFS boot/root; would I be

[zfs-discuss] Fwd: Solaris 8/9 branded zones on ZFS root?

2009-02-25 Thread Peter Pickford
Hi Rich, Solaris 8/9 zones seem to work fine with zfs root for the zone. Only problem so far is where to put the root file system for the zone in the zfs file system hierarchy. branded zones do not seem to be part of the luupdate scheme. At them moment I have another tree of file systems on rpo

[zfs-discuss] Solaris 8/9 branded zones on ZFS root?

2009-02-25 Thread Rich Teer
Hi all, I have a situation where I need to consolidate a few servers running Solaris 9 and 8. If the application doesn't run natively on Solaris 10 or Nevada, I was thinking of using Solars 9 or 8 branded zones. My intent would be for the global zone to use ZFS boot/root; would I be correct in th

Re: [zfs-discuss] Motherboard for home zfs/solaris file server

2009-02-25 Thread Tim
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Brandon High wrote: > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Tim wrote: > > Given the current state of AMD, I think we all know that's not likely. > Why > > cut into the revenue of your server line chips when you don't have to? > > Right? > > AMD has nothing to do wi

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs streams & data corruption

2009-02-25 Thread Miles Nordin
> "tt" == Toby Thain writes: c> so it's ok for snapshots but not cord-yanks if VBox never c> bothers to call fsync(). tt> Taking good host snapshots may require VB to do that, though. AIUI the contents of a snapshot on the host will be invariant no matter where VBox places hos

Re: [zfs-discuss] Motherboard for home zfs/solaris file server

2009-02-25 Thread Brandon High
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Tim wrote: > Given the current state of AMD, I think we all know that's not likely. Why > cut into the revenue of your server line chips when you don't have to? > Right? AMD has nothing to do with whether ECC exists on the Nehalem. Most likely ECC is in the mem

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs streams & data corruption

2009-02-25 Thread Toby Thain
On 25-Feb-09, at 1:08 PM, Miles Nordin wrote: "jm" == Moore, Joe writes: jm> This is correct. The general term for these sorts of jm> point-in-time backups is "crash consistant". phew, thanks, glad I wasn't talking out my ass again. jm> In-flight transactions (ones that have n

Re: [zfs-discuss] Backing up ZFS snapshots

2009-02-25 Thread Blake
I'm sure that's true. My point was that, given the choice between a zfs send/recv from one set of devices to another, where the target is another pool, and sending a zfs stream to a tarball, I'd sooner choose a solution that's all live filesystems. If backups are *really* important, then it's cer

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs streams & data corruption

2009-02-25 Thread Miles Nordin
> "jm" == Moore, Joe writes: jm> This is correct. The general term for these sorts of jm> point-in-time backups is "crash consistant". phew, thanks, glad I wasn't talking out my ass again. jm> In-flight transactions (ones that have not been committed) at jm> the database le

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs streams & data corruption

2009-02-25 Thread Toby Thain
On 25-Feb-09, at 9:53 AM, Moore, Joe wrote: Miles Nordin wrote: that SQLite2 should be equally as tolerant of snapshot backups as it is of cord-yanking. The special backup features of databases including ``performing a checkpoint'' or whatever, are for systems incapable of snapshots, wh

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs streams & data corruption

2009-02-25 Thread Moore, Joe
Miles Nordin wrote: > that SQLite2 should be equally as tolerant of snapshot backups as it > is of cord-yanking. > > The special backup features of databases including ``performing a > checkpoint'' or whatever, are for systems incapable of snapshots, > which is most of them. Snapshots are not

[zfs-discuss] GSoC 09 zfs ideas?

2009-02-25 Thread C. Bergström
Hi everyone. I've got a couple ideas for good zfs GSoC projects, but wanted to stir some interest. Anyone interested to help mentor? The deadline is around the corner so if planning hasn't happened yet it should start soon. If there is interest who would the org administrator be? Thanks