Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on SAN?

2009-02-14 Thread Miles Nordin
> "as" == Andras Spitzer writes: as> So, you telling me that even if the SAN provides redundancy as> (HW RAID5 or RAID1), people still configure ZFS with either as> raidz or mirror? There's some experience that, in the case where the storage device or the FC mesh glitches or rebo

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS: unreliable for professional usage?

2009-02-14 Thread Ross Smith
Hey guys, I'll let this die in a sec, but I just wanted to say that I've gone and read the on disk document again this morning, and to be honest Richard, without the description you just wrote, I really wouldn't have known that uberblocks are in a 128 entry circular queue that's 4x redundant. Ple

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs destroy hanging

2009-02-14 Thread James C. McPherson
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:40:04 -0600 (CST) David Dyer-Bennet wrote: > > On Sat, February 14, 2009 13:04, Blake wrote: > > I think you can kill the destroy command process using traditional > > methods. > > kill and kill -9 failed. In fact, rebooting failed; I had to use a > hard reset (it shut d

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs destroy hanging

2009-02-14 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Sat, February 14, 2009 13:04, Blake wrote: > I think you can kill the destroy command process using traditional > methods. kill and kill -9 failed. In fact, rebooting failed; I had to use a hard reset (it shut down most of the way, but then got stuck). > Perhaps your slowness issue is becaus

[zfs-discuss] SPAM *** Re: [osol-help] Adding a new partition to the system

2009-02-14 Thread Jan Hlodan
Antonio wrote: I can mount those partitions well using ext2fs, so I assume I won't need to run gparted at all. This is what prtpart says about my stuff. Kind regards, Antonio r...@antonio:~# prtpart /dev/rdsk/c3d0p0 -ldevs Fdisk information for device /dev/rdsk/c3d0p0 ** NOTE ** /dev/dsk/c3

[zfs-discuss] SSD - slow down with age

2009-02-14 Thread Nicholas Lee
A useful article about long term use of the Intel SSD X25-M: http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=669 - Long-term performance analysis of Intel Mainstream SSDs. Would a zfs cache (ZIL or ARC) based on a SSD device see this kind of issue? Maybe a periodic scrub via a full disk erase would be a use

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs destroy hanging

2009-02-14 Thread Blake
I think you can kill the destroy command process using traditional methods. Perhaps your slowness issue is because the pool is an older format. I've not had these problems since upgrading to the zfs version that comes default with 2008.11 On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 4:14 PM, David Dyer-Bennet wrote

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on SAN?

2009-02-14 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Andras Spitzer wrote: So, you telling me that even if the SAN provides redundancy (HW RAID5 or RAID1), people still configure ZFS with either raidz or mirror? When ZFS's redundancy features are used, there is decreased risk of total pool failure. With redundancy at the

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS: unreliable for professional usage?

2009-02-14 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Frank Cusack wrote: i'm sorry to berate you, as you do make very valuable contributions to the discussion here, but i take offense at your attempts to limit discussion simply because you know everything there is to know about the subject. The point is that those of us in t

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on SAN?

2009-02-14 Thread Mika Borner
Andras Spitzer wrote: Is it worth to move the redundancy from the SAN array layer to the ZFS layer? (configuring redundancy on both layers is sounds like a waste to me) There are certain advantages on the array to have redundancy configured (beyond the protection against simple disk failure).

[zfs-discuss] SPAM *** Re: [osol-help] Adding a new partition to the system

2009-02-14 Thread Jan Hlodan
Hi Antonio, did you try to recreate this partition e.g. with Gparted? Maybe is something wrong with this partition. Can you also post what "prtpart "disk ID" -ldevs" says? Regards, Jan Hlodan Antonio wrote: Hi Jan, I tried out what you say long ago, but zfs fails on pool creation. This is,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on SAN?

2009-02-14 Thread Toby Thain
On 14-Feb-09, at 2:40 AM, Andras Spitzer wrote: Damon, Yes, we can provide simple concat inside the array (even though today we provide RAID5 or RAID1 as our standard, and using Veritas with concat), the question is more of if it's worth it to switch the redundancy from the array to the

[zfs-discuss] SPAM *** Re: [osol-help] Adding a new partition to the system

2009-02-14 Thread Jan Hlodan
Antonio wrote: > Hi all, > > First of all let me say that, after a few days using it (and after several > *years* of using Linux daily), I'm delighted with OpenSolaris 8.11. It's > gonna be the OS of my choice. > > The fact is that I installed it in a partition of 16Gb in my hard disk and > tha