Re: [zfs-discuss] [ldoms-discuss] Solaris 10 patch 137137-09 broke LDOM

2008-11-16 Thread James Black
When installing the 137137-09 patch it run out of / space, just like http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=82413&tstart=0 However tried the 6 steps to recover that didn't work. I just rebuild the ldom and attached the LDOM image files from the old system and did a zpool import to re

Re: [zfs-discuss] Fwd: [osol-announce] IMPT: Do not use SXCE Build 102

2008-11-16 Thread Johan Hartzenberg
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Jeff Bonwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > These are the conditions: > > (1) The bug is specific to the root pool. Other pools are unaffected. > (2) It is triggered by doing a 'zpool online' while I/O is in flight. > (3) Item (2) can be triggered by syseventd. > (

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2008-11-16 Thread Bill Werner
> If you want a small system that is pre-built, look at > every possible > permutation/combination of the Dell Vostro 200 box. I agree, the Vostro 200 systems are an excellent deal. Update to the latest BIOS and they will recognize 8GB of RAM. The ONE problem with them, is that Dell does not en

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirror and RaidZ on only 3 disks

2008-11-16 Thread Miles Nordin
> "mb" == Martin Blom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: mb> if I'm risking it more than usual when the procedure is done? yeah, that is my opinion: when the procedure is done, using ZFS without a backup is risking the data more than using UFS or ext3 without a backup. Is that a clear statement

Re: [zfs-discuss] scrub

2008-11-16 Thread Richard Elling
dick hoogendijk wrote: > Can I do a zpool scrub on a running server without effecting > webserving / email serving? I read it is a I/O-intensive operation. > No, it is a read I/O-intensive operation :-) > Does that mean the server has to be idle? Or better still: go into > maintenance (init S)

Re: [zfs-discuss] Fwd: [osol-announce] IMPT: Do not use SXCE Build 102

2008-11-16 Thread Jeff Bonwick
These are the conditions: (1) The bug is specific to the root pool. Other pools are unaffected. (2) It is triggered by doing a 'zpool online' while I/O is in flight. (3) Item (2) can be triggered by syseventd. (4) The bug is new in build 102. Builds 101 and earlier are fine. I believe the follo

Re: [zfs-discuss] scrub

2008-11-16 Thread Andrew Gabriel
dick hoogendijk wrote: > Can I do a zpool scrub on a running server without effecting > webserving / email serving? I read it is a I/O-intensive operation. > Does that mean the server has to be idle? Or better still: go into > maintenance (init S)? I guess not, but still.. > It used to have a r

Re: [zfs-discuss] Still more questions WRT selecting a mobo for small ZFS RAID

2008-11-16 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Richard Elling wrote: > > Let's do some math. A generally accepted Soft Error Rate (SER) for > DRAMs is > 1,000 FITs or an Annualized Failure Rate (AFR) of 0.88%. If a non-ECC DIMM > has 8 chips then your AFR is 7%, or 14% for 16 chip DIMMs. My desktop > has 4 DIMMs at 16-ch

[zfs-discuss] scrub

2008-11-16 Thread dick hoogendijk
Can I do a zpool scrub on a running server without effecting webserving / email serving? I read it is a I/O-intensive operation. Does that mean the server has to be idle? Or better still: go into maintenance (init S)? I guess not, but still.. -- Dick Hoogendijk -- PGP/GnuPG key: 01D2433D + http:/

[zfs-discuss] ZFS performance

2008-11-16 Thread Mike Futerko
Hello list, I have a system with 2x 1.8 GHz AMD CPUs, 4G of ECC RAM, 7T RAID-Z pool on Areca controller with about 400 file systems on OpenSolaris snv_101. The problem is that it takes VERY long to take or delete snapshot and sync incremental snapshots to backup system. System load is quite lo

Re: [zfs-discuss] Fwd: [osol-announce] IMPT: Do not use SXCE Build 102

2008-11-16 Thread Gary Mills
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 05:41:56PM -0600, Al Hopper wrote: > Heads up! and apologies to folks subscribed to os-announce. Argh, and I just live-upgraded to build 102. I searched for this bug number in three bug databases without success. Does it affect ZFS root only, as long as I don't use `offli

Re: [zfs-discuss] Still more questions WRT selecting a mobo for small ZFS RAID

2008-11-16 Thread Ian Collins
On Mon 17/11/08 09:17 , Richard Elling [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: > Ian Collins wrote: > > > ZFS also uses system RAM in a way it hasn't been > used before. Memory> that would have been unused or holding static > pages is now churning> rapidly, in a way similar memory testers like > memtest86. Rand

Re: [zfs-discuss] Still more questions WRT selecting a mobo for

2008-11-16 Thread gnomad
Henrik Johansson writes: > I looked at this a month back, i was leaning towards > intel for > performance and power consumption but went for AMD > doe to lack of ECC > support in most of the Intel chipsets. This seems to be the crux of my indecision as well. > I went for a AM2+ GeForce 8200

Re: [zfs-discuss] Still more questions WRT selecting a mobo for

2008-11-16 Thread gnomad
Al Hopper writes: > I'm going to be somewhat rude and bypass your list of > detailed > questions - but give you my thoughts on a motherboard > recommendation > (and other hardware). No worries, you've pretty much confirmed things I already knew. ;-) > a) related to the 1Tb disks, I'd highly rec

Re: [zfs-discuss] Still more questions WRT selecting a mobo for small ZFS RAID

2008-11-16 Thread Richard Elling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> RTL8211C IP checksum offload is broken. You can disable it, but you >> have to edit /etc/system. See CR 6686415 for details. >> http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6686415 >> -- richard >> > > > I think the proper way to state this is "the d

Re: [zfs-discuss] Still more questions WRT selecting a mobo for small ZFS RAID

2008-11-16 Thread Richard Elling
Ian Collins wrote: > Al Hopper wrote: > >> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Richard Elling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> dick hoogendijk wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:49:17 +1300 Ian Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [zfs-discuss] continuous replication

2008-11-16 Thread Mertol Özyöney
Hi All; Accessing the same data(Raid Group) from different controllers does slow down the system considerebly. All modern controllers will demand the administrator to choose the primary controler for Raid Groups. Two controller accesing the same data will require drive interface switching betwee

[zfs-discuss] Status of the ADM

2008-11-16 Thread Mertol Özyöney
Hi All ; Is there any update on the status of ADM? Best regards Mertol http://www.sun.com/emrkt/sigs/6g_top.gif Mertol Ozyoney Storage Practice - Sales Manager Sun Microsystems, TR Istanbul TR Phone +902123352200 Mobile +905339310752 Fax +90212335 E

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS hangs on laptop

2008-11-16 Thread Galen
I am NOT on a notebook and I am having this problem. It the hang/pause is less intense when I don't use compression with ZFS. This issue happens on my large zpool as well as my boot zfs volume (single disk) Here's my scanpci output: pci bus 0x cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x10de devic

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot - U6 kernel patch breaks sparc boot

2008-11-16 Thread Ed Clark
Hi, > > > > 1. a copy of the 137137-09 patchadd log if you have > one available > > cp it to > http://iws.cs.uni-magdeburg.de/~elkner/137137-09/ > Can't spot anything unusual. > thanks for info - what you provided here is the patch pkg installation log, what i was actually after was patcha

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirror and RaidZ on only 3 disks

2008-11-16 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Ross wrote: > Well yes, but he doesn't sound too worried about performance, and > I'm not aware of any other issues with splitting drives? Besides some possible loss of performance, splitting drives tends to blow natural redundancy models where you want as little coupling a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirror and RaidZ on only 3 disks

2008-11-16 Thread Martin Blom
Miles Nordin wrote: > > mb> 5) Given that this is all cheap PC hardware ... can I move a > mb> disk from a broken controller to another > > zpool export, zpool import. > I was testing with the rpool, but "zpool import -f" when booting for the CD did the trick. Thanks for the hint. > If t

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirror and RaidZ on only 3 disks

2008-11-16 Thread Ross
Well yes, but he doesn't sound too worried about performance, and I'm not aware of any other issues with splitting drives? And if you did want performance later, it would probably be possible to add a flash drive for cache once the prices drop. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org __

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best SXCE version for ZFS Home Server

2008-11-16 Thread Henrik Johansson
On Nov 16, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Vincent Boisard wrote: > I just found this: http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/whats_new.jsp > > I lists Solaris 10 features and is a first hint at what features are > in. > > Another question: My MoBo has a JMB (363 I think) SATA controller. I > know support is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirror and RaidZ on only 3 disks

2008-11-16 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 03:13:59 PST Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know much about working with slices in Solaris I'm afraid, > but to me that sounds like a pretty good setup for a home server, and > I can't see why the layout would cause you any problems. > > In theory you'll be able to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best SXCE version for ZFS Home Server

2008-11-16 Thread Vincent Boisard
Silly me, I didn't scroll down far enough to see the bug description on the patch readme page. Vincent On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Vincent Boisard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hi, > > >> Have a look at the bugids in the patches for S10U6, like the kernel patch >> 137137-09. There are lists

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best SXCE version for ZFS Home Server

2008-11-16 Thread Vincent Boisard
Hi, > Have a look at the bugids in the patches for S10U6, like the kernel patch > 137137-09. There are lists of all the new patches in the documentation for > the release at docs.sun.com. > Thank you for the hint, but I can only see the patches and not the bugid description as I don't have any s

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirror and RaidZ on only 3 disks

2008-11-16 Thread Ross
I don't know much about working with slices in Solaris I'm afraid, but to me that sounds like a pretty good setup for a home server, and I can't see why the layout would cause you any problems. In theory you'll be able to swap controllers without any problems too. That's one of the real benefi

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best SXCE version for ZFS Home Server

2008-11-16 Thread Vincent Boisard
I just found this: http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/whats_new.jsp I lists Solaris 10 features and is a first hint at what features are in. Another question: My MoBo has a JMB (363 I think) SATA controller. I know support is included now in sxce, but I don't know for s10U6. Is there a changelo

Re: [zfs-discuss] [ldoms-discuss] Solaris 10 patch 137137-09 broke LDOM

2008-11-16 Thread Casper . Dik
>I've tried using S10 U6 to reinstall the boot file (instead of U5) over >jumpstart as its a ldom, n oticed a another error. > >Boot device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED] File and >args: -s >Requesting Internet Address for 0:14:4f:f9:84:f3 >boot: cannot open kernel/spar

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best SXCE version for ZFS Home Server

2008-11-16 Thread Vincent Boisard
Hi, > If Zone Cloning via ZFS snapshots is the only feature you miss in S10u6, > then you should reconsider. Writing a script to implement this yourself > will require only a little experimentation. > It is the only feature I miss now, because it is the only one I know of, because I don't know

Re: [zfs-discuss] Still more questions WRT selecting a mobo for small ZFS RAID

2008-11-16 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:38:53 -0600 "Al Hopper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I guess I've been lucky also > - but IMHO the failure rate for RAM these days is pretty small[1]. > I've also been around hundreds of SPARC boxes and, again, very, few > RAM failures (one is all that I can remember). >