Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS hangs/freezes after disk failure,

2008-08-29 Thread Todd H. Poole
> Wrt. what I've experienced and read in ZFS-discussion etc. list I've the > __feeling__, that we would have got really into trouble, using Solaris > (even the most recent one) on that system ... > So if one asks me, whether to run Solaris+ZFS on a production system, I > usually say: definitely, b

Re: [zfs-discuss] pulling disks was: ZFS hangs/freezes after disk

2008-08-29 Thread Todd H. Poole
> Let's not be too quick to assign blame, or to think that perfecting > the behaviour is straightforward or even possible. > > Start introducing random $20 components and you begin to dilute the > quality and predictability of the composite system's behaviour. > > But this NEVER happens on linux *g

Re: [zfs-discuss] Repairing a Root Pool

2008-08-29 Thread Krister Joas
On Aug 30, 2008, at 8:45 AM, George Wilson wrote: > Krister Joas wrote: >> Hello. >> I have a machine at home on which I have SXCE B96 installed on a >> root zpool mirror. It's been working great until yesterday. The >> root pool is a mirror with two identical 160GB disks. The other >> d

Re: [zfs-discuss] Availability: ZFS needs to handle disk removal / driver failure better

2008-08-29 Thread Richard Elling
Miles Nordin wrote: >> "re" == Richard Elling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > > re> if you use Ethernet switches in the interconnect, you need to > re> disable STP on the ports used for interconnects or risk > re> unnecessary cluster reconfigurations. > > RSTP/802.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Kernel Panic on import

2008-08-29 Thread Mike Aldred
Ok, I've managed to get around the kernel panic. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Download$ pfexec mdb -kw Loading modules: [ unix genunix specfs dtrace cpu.generic uppc pcplusmp scsi_vhci zfs sd ip hook neti sctp arp usba uhci s1394 fctl md lofs random sppp ipc ptm fcip fcp cpc crypto logindmux ii nsctl sdb

Re: [zfs-discuss] Repairing a Root Pool

2008-08-29 Thread George Wilson
Krister Joas wrote: > Hello. > > I have a machine at home on which I have SXCE B96 installed on a root > zpool mirror. It's been working great until yesterday. The root pool > is a mirror with two identical 160GB disks. The other day I added a > third disk to the mirror, a 250 GB disk. S

Re: [zfs-discuss] Availability: ZFS needs to handle disk removal / driver failure better

2008-08-29 Thread Miles Nordin
> "re" == Richard Elling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: re> if you use Ethernet switches in the interconnect, you need to re> disable STP on the ports used for interconnects or risk re> unnecessary cluster reconfigurations. RSTP/802.1w plus setting the ports connected to Solaris as `

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS noob question

2008-08-29 Thread Marion Hakanson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > I took a snapshot of a directory in which I hold PDF files related to math. > I then added a 50MB pdf file from a CD (Oxford Math Reference; I strongly > reccomend this to any math enthusiast) and did "zfs list" to see the size of > the snapshot (sheer curiosity). I don't

[zfs-discuss] ZFS noob question

2008-08-29 Thread Krenz von Leiberman
Hi. I took a snapshot of a directory in which I hold PDF files related to math. I then added a 50MB pdf file from a CD (Oxford Math Reference; I strongly reccomend this to any math enthusiast) and did "zfs list" to see the size of the snapshot (sheer curiosity). I don't have compression turned

Re: [zfs-discuss] cannot delete file when fs 100% full

2008-08-29 Thread Paul Raines
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Shawn Ferry wrote: On Aug 29, 2008, at 7:09 AM, Tomas Ögren wrote: On 15 August, 2008 - Tomas Ögren sent me these 0,4K bytes: On 14 August, 2008 - Paul Raines sent me these 2,9K bytes: This problem is becoming a real pain to us again and I was wondering if there has b

Re: [zfs-discuss] Availability: ZFS needs to handle disk removal / driver failure better

2008-08-29 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Miles Nordin wrote: > > I guess I'm changing my story slightly. I *would* want ZFS to collect > drive performance statistics and report them to FMA, but I wouldn't Your email *totally* blew my limited buffer size, but this little bit remained for me to look at. It left me w

Re: [zfs-discuss] Availability: ZFS needs to handle disk removal / driver failure better

2008-08-29 Thread Miles Nordin
> "es" == Eric Schrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: es> The main problem with exposing tunables like this is that they es> have a direct correlation to service actions, and es> mis-diagnosing failures costs everybody (admin, companies, es> Sun, etc) lots of time and money. Once

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-08-29 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Kyle McDonald wrote: >> > What would one look for to decide what vdev to place each LUN? > > All mine have the same Current Load Balance value: round robin. That is a good question and I will have to remind myself of the answer. The "round robin" is good because that means

Re: [zfs-discuss] Availability: ZFS needs to handle disk removal / driver failure better

2008-08-29 Thread Richard Elling
Nicolas Williams wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:29:21AM -0500, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > >> Which of these do you prefer? >> >>o System waits substantial time for devices to (possibly) recover in >> order to ensure that subsequently written data has the least >> chance of being

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-08-29 Thread Kyle McDonald
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > >> If you do use the two raidz2 vdevs, then if you pay attention to how >> MPxIO works, you can balance the load across your two fiber channel >> links for best performance. Each raidz2 vdev can be served (by >> default) by

Re: [zfs-discuss] cannot delete file when fs 100% full

2008-08-29 Thread Shawn Ferry
On Aug 29, 2008, at 7:09 AM, Tomas Ögren wrote: > On 15 August, 2008 - Tomas Ögren sent me these 0,4K bytes: > >> On 14 August, 2008 - Paul Raines sent me these 2,9K bytes: >> >>> This problem is becoming a real pain to us again and I was wondering >>> if there has been in the past few month any

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-08-29 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > > If you do use the two raidz2 vdevs, then if you pay attention to how > MPxIO works, you can balance the load across your two fiber channel > links for best performance. Each raidz2 vdev can be served (by > default) by a differente FC link. As a foll

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-08-29 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Kenny wrote: > > 1) I didn't do raid2 because I didn't want to lose the space. Is > this a bas idea?? Raidz2 is the most reliable vdev configuration other than triple-mirror. The pool is only as strong as its weakest vdev. In private email I suggested using all 12 drives

Re: [zfs-discuss] Availability: ZFS needs to handle disk removal / driver failure better

2008-08-29 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 01:05:54PM -0700, Eric Schrock wrote: > As others have mentioned, things get more difficult with writes. If I > issue a write to both halves of a mirror, should I return when the first > one completes, or when both complete? One possibility is to expose this > as a tunable

Re: [zfs-discuss] Availability: ZFS needs to handle disk removal / driver failure better

2008-08-29 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:29:21AM -0500, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > Which of these do you prefer? > >o System waits substantial time for devices to (possibly) recover in > order to ensure that subsequently written data has the least > chance of being lost. > >o System immediately

[zfs-discuss] Proposed 2540 and ZFS configuration

2008-08-29 Thread Kenny
Hello again... Now that I've got my 2540 up and running. I'm considering which configuration is best. I have a proposed config and wanted your opinions and comments on it. Background I have a requirement to host syslog data from approx 30 servers. Currently the data is about 3.5TB in

Re: [zfs-discuss] Upgrading my ZFS server

2008-08-29 Thread Joe S
Just an update to this thread with my results. To summarize, I have no problems with the nVidia 750a chipset. It's simply a newer version of the 5** series chipets that have reportedly worked well. Also, at IDLE, this system uses 133 Watts: CPU - AMD Athlon X2 4850e Motherboard - XFX MD-A72P-7509

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Pools 1+TB

2008-08-29 Thread Kenny
To All... Problem solved. Operator error on my part. (but I did learn something!! ) Thank you all very much! --Kenny -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.o

Re: [zfs-discuss] Repairing a Root Pool

2008-08-29 Thread Krister Joas
Here is the output from "zpool import" showing the configuration of the pool in case that can help diagnosing my problem. pool: rpool id: ... state: DEGRADED status: The pool was last accessed by another system. action: The pool can be imported despite missing or damaged devices. Th

Re: [zfs-discuss] cannot delete file when fs 100% full

2008-08-29 Thread Michael Schuster
On 08/29/08 04:09, Tomas Ögren wrote: > On 15 August, 2008 - Tomas Ögren sent me these 0,4K bytes: > >> On 14 August, 2008 - Paul Raines sent me these 2,9K bytes: >> >>> This problem is becoming a real pain to us again and I was wondering >>> if there has been in the past few month any known fix o

[zfs-discuss] Repairing a Root Pool

2008-08-29 Thread Krister Joas
Hello. I have a machine at home on which I have SXCE B96 installed on a root zpool mirror. It's been working great until yesterday. The root pool is a mirror with two identical 160GB disks. The other day I added a third disk to the mirror, a 250 GB disk. Soon after, the third disk deve

Re: [zfs-discuss] cannot delete file when fs 100% full

2008-08-29 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 15 August, 2008 - Tomas Ögren sent me these 0,4K bytes: > On 14 August, 2008 - Paul Raines sent me these 2,9K bytes: > > > This problem is becoming a real pain to us again and I was wondering > > if there has been in the past few month any known fix or workaround. > > Sun is sending me an IDR

[zfs-discuss] ZFS, Kernel Panic on import

2008-08-29 Thread Mike Aldred
G'day, I've got a OpenSolaris server n95, that I use for media, serving. It's uses a DQ35JOE motherboard, dual core, and I have my rpool mirrored on two IDE 40GB drives, and my media mirrored on 2 x 500GB SATA drives. I've got a few CIFS shares on the media drive, and I'm using MediaTomb to s