Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Project Hardware

2008-05-27 Thread Bryan Wagoner
I'm using a gigabyte I-RAM card with cheap memory for my slog device with great results. Of course I don't have as much memory as you do in my project box. I also want to use the left over space on the I-ram and dual purpose it for a readzilla cache device and slog. Picked it up off ebay along

Re: [zfs-discuss] slog devices don't resilver correctly

2008-05-27 Thread Joe Little
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Neil Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joe Little wrote: >> >> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Eric Schrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Joe - >>> >>> We definitely don't do great accounting of the 'vdev_islog' state here, >>> and it's possible to create

Re: [zfs-discuss] slog devices don't resilver correctly

2008-05-27 Thread Neil Perrin
Joe Little wrote: > On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Eric Schrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Joe - >> >> We definitely don't do great accounting of the 'vdev_islog' state here, >> and it's possible to create a situation where the parent replacing vdev >> has the state set but the children do not

Re: [zfs-discuss] slog devices don't resilver correctly

2008-05-27 Thread Joe Little
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Eric Schrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joe - > > We definitely don't do great accounting of the 'vdev_islog' state here, > and it's possible to create a situation where the parent replacing vdev > has the state set but the children do not, but I have been unable

Re: [zfs-discuss] slog devices don't resilver correctly

2008-05-27 Thread Eric Schrock
Joe - We definitely don't do great accounting of the 'vdev_islog' state here, and it's possible to create a situation where the parent replacing vdev has the state set but the children do not, but I have been unable to reproduce the behavior you saw. I have rebooted the system during resilver, ma

Re: [zfs-discuss] slog devices don't resilver correctly

2008-05-27 Thread Joe Little
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Eric Schrock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, I noticed this the other day while I was working on an unrelated > problem. The basic problem is that log devices are kept within the > normal vdev tree, and are only distinguished by a bit indicating that > they are

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in S10U6 vs openSolaris 05/08

2008-05-27 Thread Bill McGonigle
On May 23, 2008, at 22:21, Richard Elling wrote: > Consider a case where you might use large, slow SATA drives (1 TByte, > 7,200 rpm) > for the main storage, and a single small, fast (36 GByte, 15krpm) > drive > for the > L2ARC. This might provide a reasonable cost/performance trade-off. Ooh,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in S10U6 vs openSolaris 05/08

2008-05-27 Thread Andy Lubel
On May 27, 2008, at 1:44 PM, Rob Logan wrote: > >> There is something more to consider with SSDs uses as a cache device. > why use SATA as the interface? perhaps > http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/34065/135/ > would be better? (no experience) We are pretty happy with RAMSAN SSD's (ours is RAM

Re: [zfs-discuss] slog devices don't resilver correctly

2008-05-27 Thread Eric Schrock
Yeah, I noticed this the other day while I was working on an unrelated problem. The basic problem is that log devices are kept within the normal vdev tree, and are only distinguished by a bit indicating that they are log devices (and is the source for a number of other inconsistencies that Pwel ha

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in S10U6 vs openSolaris 05/08

2008-05-27 Thread Mike Gerdts
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Rob Logan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is something more to consider with SSDs uses as a cache device. > why use SATA as the interface? perhaps > http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/34065/135/ > would be better? (no experience) > > "cards will start at 80

Re: [zfs-discuss] indiana as nfs server: crash due to zfs

2008-05-27 Thread Victor Latushkin
Gerard Henry wrote: > hello all, > i have indiana freshly installed on a sun ultra 20 machine. It only does nfs > server. During one night, the kernel had crashed, and i got this messages: > " > May 22 02:18:57 ultra20 unix: [ID 836849 kern.notice] > May 22 02:18:57 ultra20 ^Mpanic[cpu0]/thread=ff

Re: [zfs-discuss] indiana as nfs server: crash due to zfs

2008-05-27 Thread Joe Little
On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Gerard Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello all, > i have indiana freshly installed on a sun ultra 20 machine. It only does nfs > server. During one night, the kernel had crashed, and i got this messages: > " > May 22 02:18:57 ultra20 unix: [ID 836849 kern.noti

[zfs-discuss] slog devices don't resilver correctly

2008-05-27 Thread Joe Little
This past weekend, but holiday was ruined due to a log device "replacement" gone awry. I posted all about it here: http://jmlittle.blogspot.com/2008/05/problem-with-slogs-how-i-lost.html In a nutshell, an resilver of a single log device with itself, due to the fact one can't remove a log device

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in S10U6 vs openSolaris 05/08

2008-05-27 Thread Richard Elling
Rob Logan wrote: > > There is something more to consider with SSDs uses as a cache device. > why use SATA as the interface? perhaps > http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/34065/135/ > would be better? (no experience) > > "cards will start at 80 GB and will scale to 320 and 640 GB next year. > By th

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in S10U6 vs openSolaris 05/08

2008-05-27 Thread Rob Logan
> There is something more to consider with SSDs uses as a cache device. why use SATA as the interface? perhaps http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/34065/135/ would be better? (no experience) "cards will start at 80 GB and will scale to 320 and 640 GB next year. By the end of 2008, Fusion io also

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in S10U6 vs openSolaris 05/08

2008-05-27 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
There is something more to consider with SSDs uses as a cache device. STEC mentions that they obtain improved reliability by employing error correction. The ZFS scrub operation is very good at testing filesystem blocks for errors by reading them. Besides corrections at the ZFS level, the SSD

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS in S10U6 vs openSolaris 05/08

2008-05-27 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 27 May 2008, Tim wrote: > You're still concentrating on consumer level drives. The stec drives > emc is using for instance, exhibit none of the behaviors you describe. How long have you been working for STEC? ;-) Looking at the specifications for STEC SSDs I see that they are very good