Re: [zfs-discuss] Periodic ZFS disk accesses by ksh93... / was: Re: [dtrace-discuss] periodic ZFS disk accesses

2008-03-02 Thread Bill Shannon
Roland Mainz wrote: > Bill Shannon wrote: >> Roland Mainz wrote: >>> What's the exact filename and how often are the accesses ? Is this an >>> interactive shell or is this a script (an interactive shell session will >>> do periodical lookups for things like the MAIL*-variables (see ksh(1) >>> and k

Re: [zfs-discuss] Periodic ZFS disk accesses by ksh93... / was: Re: [dtrace-discuss] periodic ZFS disk accesses

2008-03-02 Thread Roland Mainz
Bill Shannon wrote: > Roland Mainz wrote: > > What's the exact filename and how often are the accesses ? Is this an > > interactive shell or is this a script (an interactive shell session will > > do periodical lookups for things like the MAIL*-variables (see ksh(1) > > and ksh93(1) manual pages) w

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dealing with Single Bit Flips - WAS: Cause for data corruption?

2008-03-02 Thread Jeff Bonwick
Nathan: yes. Flipping each bit and recomputing the checksum is not only possible, we actually did it in early versions of the code. The problem is that it's really expensive. For a 128K block, that's a million bits, so you have to re-run the checksum a million times, on 128K of data. That's 128G

[zfs-discuss] ls -l held up when removing large files?

2008-03-02 Thread Nathan Kroenert
Hey there - whilst trying to re-create some other performance issues, I came across an ls -l that hung waiting for an rm to complete. The file was a 176GB file, and I was rm'ing it to clear some space for more tests. At the time I was rming it, I was attempting to do an ls -l and found it hun

Re: [zfs-discuss] Periodic ZFS disk accesses by ksh93... / was: Re: [dtrace-discuss] periodic ZFS disk accesses

2008-03-02 Thread Bill Shannon
Roland Mainz wrote: > What's the exact filename and how often are the accesses ? Is this an > interactive shell or is this a script (an interactive shell session will > do periodical lookups for things like the MAIL*-variables (see ksh(1) > and ksh93(1) manual pages) while scripts may do random stu

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dealing with Single Bit Flips - WAS: Cause for data corruption?

2008-03-02 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, Nathan Kroenert wrote: > Speaking of expensive, but interesting things we could do - > > From the little I know of ZFS's checksum, it's NOT like the ECC > checksum we use in memory in that it's not something we can use to > determine which bit flipped in the event that there was

[zfs-discuss] Dealing with Single Bit Flips - WAS: Cause for data corruption?

2008-03-02 Thread Nathan Kroenert
Say, Jeff - Speaking of expensive, but interesting things we could do - From the little I know of ZFS's checksum, it's NOT like the ECC checksum we use in memory in that it's not something we can use to determine which bit flipped in the event that there was a single bit flip in the data. (I

[zfs-discuss] Periodic ZFS disk accesses by ksh93... / was: Re: [dtrace-discuss] periodic ZFS disk accesses

2008-03-02 Thread Roland Mainz
Bill Shannon wrote: > Jonathan Edwards wrote: > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 4:14 PM, Bill Shannon wrote: > >> Ok, that's much better! At least I'm getting output when I touch files > >> on zfs. However, even though zpool iostat is reporting activity, the > >> above program isn't showing any file accesse

Re: [zfs-discuss] [dtrace-discuss] periodic ZFS disk accesses

2008-03-02 Thread Brendan Gregg - Sun Microsystems
G'Day, On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 08:58:53PM -0800, Bill Shannon wrote: > Roch Bourbonnais wrote: > >>> this came up sometime last year .. io:::start won't work since ZFS > >>> doesn't call bdev_strategy() directly .. you'll want to use something > >>> more like zfs_read:entry, zfs_write:entry and zf

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Uptime/Availability?

2008-03-02 Thread Vincent Fox
The mail-stores for University of California Davis for 70K users (50K active) are on ZFS since this summer. Perfect record of uptime. It is very nice, if there is some question about the filesystem, to just run zpool scrub on it while it's hot. We ZFS mirror LUNs provided over SAN, with multip

Re: [zfs-discuss] Need help with a dead disk

2008-03-02 Thread ZFS Fan
We are encountering the same issue. Essentially ZFS has trouble stopping access to a dead drive. We are testing out Solaris/ZFS and this is has become a very serious issue for us. Any help /fix for this would be greatly appreciated. Reg: cfgadm --unconfigure ... The recommendation seems to be