[zfs-discuss] New version of the ZFS test suite released

2007-08-03 Thread Jim Walker
Version 1.8 of the ZFS test suite was released today on opensolaris.org. The ZFS test suite source tarballs, packages and baseline can be downloaded at: http://dlc.sun.com/osol/test/downloads/current/ The ZFS test suite source can be browsed at: http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/test/ontest-

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Features when Using Enterprise Arrays

2007-08-03 Thread Richard Elling
Alderman, Sean wrote: > I'd have a nice 400GB (800GB actual) pool. I'd still have my hard RAID 1+0, > but now a single checksum error on any one LUN would render the entire file > system unusable. No, this is not a correct assumption. The "panic when ZFS sees an error" case is for *writes* w

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Features when Using Enterprise Arrays

2007-08-03 Thread Wade . Stuart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/03/2007 01:35:04 PM: > The OP here is posting the "Z"illion dollar question ... And > apologies in advance for the verbal diarrhea. > > Most of the Enterprise Level systems people here (my company) look > at ZFS and say, "Wow that's really cool...but..." What co

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Features when Using Enterprise Arrays

2007-08-03 Thread Mario Goebbels
>>> What other ZFS features depend on ZFS RAID ? >> Mostly the self-healing stuff.. But if it's not zfs-redundant and a >> device experiences write errors, the machine will currently panic. > > Wow, this is certainly worse than the current VxVM/VxFS > implementation. At least there I get I/O err

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Features when Using Enterprise Arrays

2007-08-03 Thread Alderman, Sean
The OP here is posting the "Z"illion dollar question ... And apologies in advance for the verbal diarrhea. Most of the Enterprise Level systems people here (my company) look at ZFS and say, "Wow that's really cool...but..." What comes after the "but..." is a host of questions that ultimately c

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Features when Using Enterprise Arrays

2007-08-03 Thread John Martinez
On Aug 3, 2007, at 8:29 AM, Tomas Ögren wrote: > On 03 August, 2007 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent me these 1,6K bytes: > >> When using an array's RAID schemes, what higher level ZFS >> features are not in play when ZFS Stripes/Concats are used without >> using >> any ZFS RaidZ or mirrors? >> >> I u

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with HDS TrueCopy and EMC SRDF

2007-08-03 Thread Darren Dunham
> Do a "lockfs -w", then start the BCV copy, then (once that started) do a > "lockfs -u". > A writelocked filesystem is "clean", needs not to be fsck'ed before being > able to mount it. > > The disadvantage is that write ops to that fs in question will block while > the lockfs -w is active. But

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Features when Using Enterprise Arrays

2007-08-03 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 03 August, 2007 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent me these 1,6K bytes: > When using an array's RAID schemes, what higher level ZFS > features are not in play when ZFS Stripes/Concats are used without using > any ZFS RaidZ or mirrors? > > I understand from > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with HDS TrueCopy and EMC SRDF

2007-08-03 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007, Damon Atkins wrote: [ ... ] > UFS forcedirectio and VxFS closesync ensure that what ever happens your files > will always exist if the program completes. Therefore with Disk Replication > (sync) the file exists at the other site at its finished size. When you > introduce DR

[zfs-discuss] ZFS Features when Using Enterprise Arrays

2007-08-03 Thread John . Karwoski
When using an array's RAID schemes, what higher level ZFS features are not in play when ZFS Stripes/Concats are used without using any ZFS  RaidZ or mirrors? I understand from http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/faq/#hardwareraid that ZFS can only report errors but not correct them.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with HDS TrueCopy and EMC SRDF

2007-08-03 Thread Damon Atkins
>Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:39:09 PDT >From: "Anton B. Rang" >That said, I?m not sure exactly what this buys you for disk replication. >What?s special about files >which have been closed? Is the point that >applications might close a file and then notify some other >process of the >file?s availa

Re: [zfs-discuss] Firewire zpool transport rejected fatal error, 6560174

2007-08-03 Thread Pete Bentley
Jürgen Keil wrote: >>> And 6560174 might be a duplicate of 6445725 >> I see what you mean. Unfortunately there does not >> look to be a work-around. > > Nope, no work-around. This is a scsa1394 bug; it > has some issues when it is used from interrupt context. > > I have some source code diffs,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Firewire zpool transport rejected fatal error, 6560174

2007-08-03 Thread Jürgen Keil
> > 3) Can your code diffs be integrated into the OS on my end to use this > > drive, and if so, how? > > I believe the bug is still being worked on, right Jürgen ? The opensolaris sponsor process for fixing bug 6445725 seems to got stuck. I ping'ed Alan P. on the state of that bug... This

Re: [zfs-discuss] Firewire zpool transport rejected fatal error, 6560174

2007-08-03 Thread Jürgen Keil
> > Nope, no work-around. > > OK. Then I have 3 questions: > > 1) How do I destroy the pool that was on the firewire > drive? (So that zfs stops complaining about it) Even if the drive is disconnected, it should be possible to "zpool export" it, so that the OS forgets about it and doesn't try

Re: [zfs-discuss] Firewire zpool transport rejected fatal error, 6560174

2007-08-03 Thread Darren J Moffat
aric wrote: >> Nope, no work-around. > > OK. Then I have 3 questions: > > 1) How do I destroy the pool that was on the firewire drive? (So that zfs > stops complaining about it) `zpool destroy ` this works even if the drive isn't connected. > 2) How can I reformat the firewire drive? Does t

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, ZIL, vq_max_pending and OSCON

2007-08-03 Thread chrisj
For a while I had the same problem ;-) Turns out the link is not at "my presentation" but way down at the bottom where it says "My slides are here" replicated here for your use: http://www.meangrape.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/OSCON_zfs.pdf - Chris > Hello Jay, > > > Thursday, August 2,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, ZIL, vq_max_pending and OSCON

2007-08-03 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Jay, Thursday, August 2, 2007, 8:10:52 AM, you wrote: > The slides from my ZFS presentation at OSCON (as well as some additional information) are available at http://www.meangrape.com/2007/08/oscon-zfs/ I can't find the actual link to your presentation... --  Best regards,