Re: [zfs-discuss] How does ZFS snapshot COW file data?

2007-07-03 Thread Darren Dunham
> Apologies in advance for the newbie internals question, but could > someone please give me a pointer to how ZFS snapshots cause future > modifications to files to be written to different disk blocks? I'm > looking at OpenSolaris NV bld 66. "snapshots" don't really cause that. ZFS never overwri

[zfs-discuss] How does ZFS snapshot COW file data?

2007-07-03 Thread Eric Hamilton
Apologies in advance for the newbie internals question, but could someone please give me a pointer to how ZFS snapshots cause future modifications to files to be written to different disk blocks? I'm looking at OpenSolaris NV bld 66. How do snapshots interact with open files or files with page

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to take advantage of PSARC 2007/171: ZFS Separate Intent Log

2007-07-03 Thread David Magda
On Jul 3, 2007, at 11:26, Albert Chin wrote: > PSARC 2007/171 will be available in b68. Any documentation anywhere on > how to take advantage of it? For those not in the know, PSARC 2007/171 is a separate intent log for ZFS: http://cz.opensolaris.org/os/community/arc/caselog/2007/171/

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs-code] Space allocation failure

2007-07-03 Thread Manoj Joseph
Manoj Joseph wrote: > Manoj Joseph wrote: >> Manoj Joseph wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> In brief, what I am trying to do is to use libzpool to access a zpool >>> - like ztest does. >> >> [snip] >> >>> No, AFAIK, the pool is not damaged. But yes, it looks like the device >>> can't be written to by the us

[zfs-discuss] Share and Remote mounting ZFS for anonyous ftp

2007-07-03 Thread Dale Erhart
Experts, Sorry if this is a FAQ but I'm not on this alias. Please reply directly to me. I'm working on a project setting up a web portal that will use 2 hosts for load balancing ftp's. I wanted to use ZFS to showcase it to our customer. What I've been trying to setup is anonymous ftp to a host

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to take advantage of PSARC 2007/171: ZFS Separate Intent Log

2007-07-03 Thread Al Hopper
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Good point. The speeds for the following don't seem very impressive: >> http://www.adtron.com/products/A25fb-SerialATAFlashDisk.html >> >> http://www.sandisk.com/OEM/ProductCatalog(1321)-SanDisk_SSD_SATA_5000_25.aspx > > > The adton URL leaves

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to take advantage of PSARC 2007/171: ZFS Separate Intent Log

2007-07-03 Thread Bryan Cantrill
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 01:10:25PM -0500, Albert Chin wrote: > On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 11:02:24AM -0700, Bryan Cantrill wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 10:26:20AM -0500, Albert Chin wrote: > > > PSARC 2007/171 will be available in b68. Any documentation anywhere on > > > how to take advantage o

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to take advantage of PSARC 2007/171: ZFS Separate Intent Log

2007-07-03 Thread Albert Chin
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 11:02:24AM -0700, Bryan Cantrill wrote: > On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 10:26:20AM -0500, Albert Chin wrote: > > PSARC 2007/171 will be available in b68. Any documentation anywhere on > > how to take advantage of it? > > > > Some of the Sun storage arrays contain NVRAM. It would

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to take advantage of PSARC 2007/171: ZFS Separate Intent Log

2007-07-03 Thread Richard Elling
Adam Leventhal wrote: > Flash SSDs typically boast a huge number of _read_ IOPS (thousands), but > very few write IOPS (tens). The write throughput numbers quoted are almost > certainly for non-synchronous writes whose latency can easily be in the > milisecond range. STEC makes an interesting devic

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to take advantage of PSARC 2007/171: ZFS Separate Intent Log

2007-07-03 Thread Bryan Cantrill
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 10:26:20AM -0500, Albert Chin wrote: > PSARC 2007/171 will be available in b68. Any documentation anywhere on > how to take advantage of it? > > Some of the Sun storage arrays contain NVRAM. It would be really nice > if the array NVRAM would be available for ZIL storage.

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to take advantage of PSARC 2007/171: ZFS Separate Intent Log

2007-07-03 Thread Albert Chin
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 10:31:28AM -0700, Richard Elling wrote: > Albert Chin wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 09:01:50AM -0700, Richard Elling wrote: > >> Albert Chin wrote: > >>> Some of the Sun storage arrays contain NVRAM. It would be really nice > >>> if the array NVRAM would be available fo

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to take advantage of PSARC 2007/171: ZFS Separate Intent Log

2007-07-03 Thread Adam Leventhal
Flash SSDs typically boast a huge number of _read_ IOPS (thousands), but very few write IOPS (tens). The write throughput numbers quoted are almost certainly for non-synchronous writes whose latency can easily be in the milisecond range. STEC makes an interesting device which offers fast _synchrono

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to take advantage of PSARC 2007/171: ZFS Separate Intent Log

2007-07-03 Thread Richard Elling
Albert Chin wrote: > On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 09:01:50AM -0700, Richard Elling wrote: >> Albert Chin wrote: >>> Some of the Sun storage arrays contain NVRAM. It would be really nice >>> if the array NVRAM would be available for ZIL storage. It would also >>> be nice for extra hardware (PCI-X, PCIe c

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + SAN configuration recommendations?

2007-07-03 Thread Richard Elling
Alderman, Sean wrote: > Hi all, > I'm new to the list as of today, I've come because I'm fascinated with > ZFS and my company has just begun an adventure into the unknown with > Solaris 10. > > We've got a few Sun Fire X4200's and a few Sun Fire V245's that we're > playing with and we've come

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool status -v: machine readable format?

2007-07-03 Thread George Wilson
David Smith wrote: > I was wondering if anyone had a script to parse the "zpool status -v" output > into a more machine readable format? > > Thanks, > > David > > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > ___ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discu

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to take advantage of PSARC 2007/171: ZFS Separate Intent Log

2007-07-03 Thread Casper . Dik
>Good point. The speeds for the following don't seem very impressive: > http://www.adtron.com/products/A25fb-SerialATAFlashDisk.html > http://www.sandisk.com/OEM/ProductCatalog(1321)-SanDisk_SSD_SATA_5000_25.aspx The adton URL leaves out IOops altogether. Sandisks limit itself to read IOops

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to take advantage of PSARC 2007/171: ZFS Separate Intent Log

2007-07-03 Thread Albert Chin
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 09:01:50AM -0700, Richard Elling wrote: > Albert Chin wrote: > > Some of the Sun storage arrays contain NVRAM. It would be really nice > > if the array NVRAM would be available for ZIL storage. It would also > > be nice for extra hardware (PCI-X, PCIe card) that added NVRAM

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS scaling

2007-07-03 Thread Richard Elling
William Loewe wrote: > Hello, > > I'm using a Sun Fire X4500 "Thumper" and trying to get some sense of the best > performance I can get from it with zfs. > > I'm running without mirroring or raid, and have checksumming turned off. I > built the zfs with these commands: > > # zpool create mypo

[zfs-discuss] zpool status -v: machine readable format?

2007-07-03 Thread David Smith
I was wondering if anyone had a script to parse the "zpool status -v" output into a more machine readable format? Thanks, David This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolari

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to take advantage of PSARC 2007/171: ZFS Separate Intent Log

2007-07-03 Thread Albert Chin
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 05:31:00PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >PSARC 2007/171 will be available in b68. Any documentation anywhere on > >how to take advantage of it? > > > >Some of the Sun storage arrays contain NVRAM. It would be really nice > >if the array NVRAM would be available for Z

[zfs-discuss] ZFS + SAN configuration recommendations?

2007-07-03 Thread Alderman, Sean
Hi all, I'm new to the list as of today, I've come because I'm fascinated with ZFS and my company has just begun an adventure into the unknown with Solaris 10. We've got a few Sun Fire X4200's and a few Sun Fire V245's that we're playing with and we've come to a decision point about how to confi

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to take advantage of PSARC 2007/171: ZFS Separate Intent Log

2007-07-03 Thread Richard Elling
Albert Chin wrote: > PSARC 2007/171 will be available in b68. Any documentation anywhere on > how to take advantage of it? Should be part of b68. > Some of the Sun storage arrays contain NVRAM. It would be really nice > if the array NVRAM would be available for ZIL storage. It would also > be nic

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS scaling

2007-07-03 Thread Paul Fisher
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > William Loewe > > I'm using a Sun Fire X4500 "Thumper" and trying to get some > sense of the best performance I can get from it with zfs. > > I'm running without mirroring or raid, and have checksumming > turned off. I built

[zfs-discuss] ZFS scaling

2007-07-03 Thread William Loewe
Hello, I'm using a Sun Fire X4500 "Thumper" and trying to get some sense of the best performance I can get from it with zfs. I'm running without mirroring or raid, and have checksumming turned off. I built the zfs with these commands: # zpool create mypool disk0 disk1 ... diskN # zfs set chec

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot: another way

2007-07-03 Thread Dick Davies
I've found it's fairly easy to trim down a 'core' install, installing to a temporary UFS root, doing the ufs -> zfs thing, and then re-use the old UFS slice as swap. Obviously you need a separate /boot slice in this setup. On 03/07/07, Douglas Atique <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm afraid the S

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to take advantage of PSARC 2007/171: ZFS Separate Intent Log

2007-07-03 Thread Casper . Dik
>PSARC 2007/171 will be available in b68. Any documentation anywhere on >how to take advantage of it? > >Some of the Sun storage arrays contain NVRAM. It would be really nice >if the array NVRAM would be available for ZIL storage. It would also >be nice for extra hardware (PCI-X, PCIe card) that a

[zfs-discuss] How to take advantage of PSARC 2007/171: ZFS Separate Intent Log

2007-07-03 Thread Albert Chin
PSARC 2007/171 will be available in b68. Any documentation anywhere on how to take advantage of it? Some of the Sun storage arrays contain NVRAM. It would be really nice if the array NVRAM would be available for ZIL storage. It would also be nice for extra hardware (PCI-X, PCIe card) that added NV

[zfs-discuss] ZFS panic on 32bit x86

2007-07-03 Thread grant beattie
hi all, I was extracting a 8GB tar and encountered this panic. the system was just installed last week with Solaris 10 update 3 and the latest recommended patches as of June 26. I can provide more output from mdb, or the crashdump itself if it would be of any use. any ideas what's going on her

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot: another way

2007-07-03 Thread Douglas Atique
I'm afraid the Solaris installer won't let me stop the process just before it starts copying files to the target filesystem. It would be very nice to get away with the UFS slice altogether, but between filesystem creation and initialisation (which seems mandatory) and copying there is no pause w