Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Scalability/performance

2007-06-22 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 12:03:02PM -0400, Will Murnane wrote: > Yes. 2 disks means when one fails, you've still got an extra. In > raid 5 boxes, it's not uncommon with large arrays for one disk to die, > and when it's replaced, the stress on the other disks causes another > failure. Then the arr

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Slow write speed to ZFS pool (via NFS)

2007-06-22 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 11:36:53AM +0200, Roch - PAE wrote: > > code) or Samba might be better by being careless with data. Well, it *is* trying to be a Microsoft replacement. Gotta get it right, you know? ;) -brian -- "Perl can be fast and elegant as much as J2EE can be fast and elegant. In

Re: [zfs-discuss] Btrfs, COW for Linux [somewhat OT]

2007-06-22 Thread Darren . Reed
mike wrote: it's about time. this hopefully won't spark another license debate, etc... ZFS may never get into linux officially, but there's no reason a lot of the same features and ideologies can't make it into a linux-approved-with-no-arguments filesystem... Well, there's a dark horse here c

Re: [zfs-discuss] Suggestions on 30 drive configuration?

2007-06-22 Thread Matthew Ahrens
Dan Saul wrote: I care more about data integrity then performance. Of course if performance is so bad that one would not be able to, say stream a video off of it that wouldn't be acceptable. Any config I could imagine would be able to stream several videos at once (even 10Mbit/sec 1080p HD).

Re: [zfs-discuss] Suggestions on 30 drive configuration?

2007-06-22 Thread Richard Elling
Dan Saul wrote: I care more about data integrity then performance. Of course if performance is so bad that one would not be able to, say stream a video off of it that wouldn't be acceptable. The model I used in this blog deals with small, random reads, not streaming workloads. In part this is

Re: [zfs-discuss] Suggestions on 30 drive configuration?

2007-06-22 Thread Dan Saul
I care more about data integrity then performance. Of course if performance is so bad that one would not be able to, say stream a video off of it that wouldn't be acceptable. On 6/22/07, Richard Elling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dan Saul wrote: > Good day ZFS-Discuss, > > I am planning to build

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Indiana Wish List

2007-06-22 Thread Lori Alt
andrewk9 wrote: Apologies: I've just realised all this talk of "I've booted off of ZFS" is totally bogus. What they've actually done is booted off Ext3FS, for example, then jumped into loading the "real" root from the zpool. That'll teach me to read things first. This is indeed a pretty ugl

Re: [zfs-discuss] NexentaCP Beta1-test2 (ZFS/Boot - manual partitioning support)

2007-06-22 Thread Al Hopper
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Erast Benson wrote: New unstable ISO of NexentaCP (Core Platform) available. http://www.gnusolaris.org/unstable-iso/ncp_beta1-test2-b67_i386.iso Also available at: http://www.genunix.org/distributions/gnusolaris/index.html Changes: * ON B67 based * ZFS/Boot manual par

[zfs-discuss] Re: Indiana Wish List

2007-06-22 Thread andrewk9
Apologies: I've just realised all this talk of "I've booted off of ZFS" is totally bogus. What they've actually done is booted off Ext3FS, for example, then jumped into loading the "real" root from the zpool. That'll teach me to read things first. This is indeed a pretty ugly hack. The only obs

RE: [zfs-discuss] zfs and snmp disk space stats

2007-06-22 Thread Bruce Shaw
Gimme specific examples and I'll have a look at it. We (net-snmp) are just about to release a new version (5.4.1) so I'd like to fix it before it goes to production. It may be a known bug, since fixed, with 5.0.9. >Not specifically a ZFS question, but is anyone monitoring disk space of their ZF

Re: [zfs-discuss] Implicit storage tiering w/ ZFS

2007-06-22 Thread Richard Elling
Blue Thunder Somogyi wrote: I'm curious if there has been any discussion of or work done toward implementing storage classing within zpools (this would be similar to the storage foundation QoSS feature). There has been some discussion. AFAIK, there is no significant work in progress. This p

[zfs-discuss] data structures in ZFS

2007-06-22 Thread eric kustarz
A data structure view of ZFS is now available: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/structures/ We've only got one picture up right now (though its a juicy one!), but let us know what you're interested in seeing, and we'll try to make that happen. I see this as a nice supplement to t

[zfs-discuss] New article on ZFS in Russian

2007-06-22 Thread Victor Latushkin
Hi, Recently PC Magazine Russian Edition published article about ZFS in Russian titled ZFS - Новый взгляд на файловые системы or in English ZFS - New view on a filesystem http://www.pcmag.ru/solutions/detail.php?ID=9141 There's already so much collateral on ZFS in English and other languag

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Undo/reverse zpool create

2007-06-22 Thread michael schuster
Joubert Nel wrote: What I meant is that when I do "zpool create" on a disk, the entire contents of the disk doesn't seem to be overwritten/destroyed. I.e. I suspect that if I didn't copy any data to this disk, a large portion of what was on it is potentially recoverable. If so, is there a tool

[zfs-discuss] Implicit storage tiering w/ ZFS

2007-06-22 Thread Blue Thunder Somogyi
I'm curious if there has been any discussion of or work done toward implementing storage classing within zpools (this would be similar to the storage foundation QoSS feature). I've searched the forum and inspected the documentation looking for a means to do this, and haven't found anything, so

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Undo/reverse zpool create

2007-06-22 Thread Darren Dunham
> What I meant is that when I do "zpool create" on a disk, the entire > contents of the disk doesn't seem to be overwritten/destroyed. I.e. I > suspect that if I didn't copy any data to this disk, a large portion > of what was on it is potentially recoverable. Presumably a scavenger program could

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Undo/reverse zpool create

2007-06-22 Thread Eric Schrock
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 07:34:13PM -0700, Joubert Nel wrote: > > OK, so if I didn't copy any data to this disk, presumably a large > portion of what was on the disk previously is theoretically > recoverable. There is really one file in particular that I'd like to > recover (it is a cpio backup). >

[zfs-discuss] NexentaCP Beta1-test2 (ZFS/Boot - manual partitioning support)

2007-06-22 Thread Erast Benson
New unstable ISO of NexentaCP (Core Platform) available. http://www.gnusolaris.org/unstable-iso/ncp_beta1-test2-b67_i386.iso Changes: * ON B67 based * ZFS/Boot manual partitioning support implemented (in addition to auto-partitioning). Both, Wizard and FDisk types fully supported. * gcc/g++ now

Re: [zfs-discuss] Suggestions on 30 drive configuration?

2007-06-22 Thread Richard Elling
Dan Saul wrote: Good day ZFS-Discuss, I am planning to build an array of 30 drives in a RaidZ2 configuration with two hot spares. However I read on the internet that this was not ideal. So I ask those who are more experianced then me, what configuration would you recommend with ZFS, I would lik

[zfs-discuss] cannot boot zone on zfs inside a logical domain 65543017

2007-06-22 Thread Claire . Grandalski
cust has this issue: Sun Fire T2000 solaris 10 11/06 This is a new install and ZFS has not worked at all inside of a Logical Domain. Unfortunately, nothing shows up in the messages file and I receive no errors when trying to boot the zone. It appears to just hang when trying to import the ser

[zfs-discuss] zfs and snmp disk space stats

2007-06-22 Thread Ed Ravin
Not specifically a ZFS question, but is anyone monitoring disk space of their ZFS filesystems via the Solaris 10 snmpd? I can't find any 64-bit counters in the MIB for disk space, so the normal tools I use get completely wrong numbers for my 1-terabyte pool. ___

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS + ISCSI + LINUX QUESTIONS

2007-06-22 Thread Gary Gendel
Al, Has there been any resolution to this problem? I get it repeatedly on my 5-500GB Raidz configuration. I sometimes get port drop/reconnect errors when this occurs. Gary This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-d

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Undo/reverse zpool create

2007-06-22 Thread Joubert Nel
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 11:03:39AM -0700, Joubert Nel > wrote: > > > > When I ran "zpool create", the pool got created > without a warning. > > zpool(1M) will diallow creation of the disk if it > contains data in > active use (mounted fs, zfs pool, dump device, swap, > etc). It will warn > if

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Undo/reverse zpool create

2007-06-22 Thread Joubert Nel
Richard, > Joubert Nel wrote: > >> If the device was actually in use on another > system, I > >> would expect that libdiskmgmt would have warned > you about > >> this when you ran "zpool create". > > AFAIK, libdiskmgmt is not multi-node aware. It does > know about local > uses of the disk. Remo

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZIL on user specified devices?

2007-06-22 Thread eric kustarz
On Jun 21, 2007, at 3:25 PM, Bryan Wagoner wrote: Quick question, Are there any tunables, or is there any way to specify devices in a pool to use for the ZIL specifically? I've been thinking through architectures to mitigate performance problems on SAN and various other storage technolog

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bug in "zpool history"

2007-06-22 Thread Niclas Sodergard
On 6/21/07, eric kustarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > # zpool history > 2007-06-20.10:19:46 zfs snapshot syspool/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 2007-06-20.10:20:03 zfs clone syspool/[EMAIL PROTECTED] syspool/ > myrootfs > 2007-06-20.10:23:21 zfs set bootfs=syspool/myrootfs syspool > > As you can see it say

[zfs-discuss] Suggestions on 30 drive configuration?

2007-06-22 Thread Dan Saul
Good day ZFS-Discuss, I am planning to build an array of 30 drives in a RaidZ2 configuration with two hot spares. However I read on the internet that this was not ideal. So I ask those who are more experianced then me, what configuration would you recommend with ZFS, I would like to have some re

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZIL on user specified devices?

2007-06-22 Thread Eric Schrock
This feature is implemented as part of PSARC 2007/171 and will be putback shortly. - Eric On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 03:25:30PM -0700, Bryan Wagoner wrote: > Quick question, > > Are there any tunables, or is there any way to specify devices in a > pool to use for the ZIL specifically? I've been thi

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZIL on user specified devices?

2007-06-22 Thread Neil Perrin
Bryna, Your timing is excellent! We've been working on this for a while now and hopefully within the next day I'll be adding support for separate log devices into Nevada. I'll send out more details soon... Neil. Bryan Wagoner wrote: Quick question, Are there any tunables, or is there any way