Re: [zfs-discuss] commercial backup software and zfs

2006-08-17 Thread Mike Gerdts
On 8/15/06, Kevin Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Is the following an accurate sstatment of the current status with (for me) the 3 main commercial ackup software solutions out there It seems to me that if zfs send/receive where hooked in with ndmp (http://ndmp.org), that zfs would very

[zfs-discuss] Proposal: user-defined properties

2006-08-17 Thread Eric Schrock
Following up on a string of related proposals, here is another draft proposal for user-defined properties. As usual, all feedback and comments are welcome. The prototype is finished, and I would expect the code to be integrated sometime within the next month. - Eric INTRODUCTION ZFS currently

Re: [zfs-discuss] Why is ZFS raidz slower than simple ufs mount?

2006-08-17 Thread Richard Elling - PAE
Bob Evans wrote: Hi, this is a follow up to "Significant pauses to zfs writes". I'm getting about 15% slower performance using ZFS raidz than if I just mount the same type of drive using ufs. What is your expectation? -- richard ___ zfs-discuss mai

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Boot Disk

2006-08-17 Thread Lori Alt
Dick Davies wrote: On 15/08/06, Lori Alt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Brian Hechinger wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 02:26:24PM -0600, Lori Alt wrote: > >>>What about Express? >> >>Probably not any time soon. If it makes U4, >>I think that would make it available in Express late >>this year

Re: [zfs-discuss] in-kernel gzip compression

2006-08-17 Thread Matthew Ahrens
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:28:10AM -0700, Adam Leventhal wrote: > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:00:32AM -0700, Matthew Ahrens wrote: > > (Actually, I think that a RLE compression algorithm for metadata is a > > higher priority, but if someone from the community wants to step up, we > > won't turn your

Re: [zfs-discuss] in-kernel gzip compression

2006-08-17 Thread Adam Leventhal
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:00:32AM -0700, Matthew Ahrens wrote: > (Actually, I think that a RLE compression algorithm for metadata is a > higher priority, but if someone from the community wants to step up, we > won't turn your code away!) Is RLE likely to be more efficient for metadata? Have you

Re: [zfs-discuss] in-kernel gzip compression

2006-08-17 Thread Matthew Ahrens
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 02:53:09PM +0200, Robert Milkowski wrote: > Hello zfs-discuss, > > Is someone actually working on it? Or any other algorithms? > Any dates? Not that I know of. Any volunteers? :-) (Actually, I think that a RLE compression algorithm for metadata is a higher priority,

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Why is ZFS raidz slower than simple ufs mount?

2006-08-17 Thread Bob Evans
First, I apologize, I listed the Antares in my original post, it was one of two scsi cards I tested with. The posted CPU snapshots were from the LSI 22320 card (mentioned below). I've tried this with two different SCSI cards. As far as I know, both are standard SCSI cards used for Suns. Sun

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import/export

2006-08-17 Thread Eric Schrock
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 02:20:47PM +0200, Robert Milkowski wrote: > > I've just did :) > > However currently 'zpool import A B' means importing pool A and > renaming it to pool B. > > I think it would be better to change current behavior and rename only > with given switch like 'zpool import A -

[zfs-discuss] Re: commercial backup software and zfs

2006-08-17 Thread Louwtjie Burger
No ACL's ... This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Why is ZFS raidz slower than simple ufs mount?

2006-08-17 Thread Victor Latushkin
Hi Bob, you are using some non-Sun SCSI HBA. Could you please be more specific about HBA model and driver? You are getting pretty the same high CPU load with write to single-disk UFS and raid-z. This may mean that the problem is not with ZFS itself. Victor Bob Evans wrote: Robert, Sorry

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS ACL: append_data didn't do what I expected

2006-08-17 Thread ethan gunword
Dear Mark, You say: Append_data does not work and it is not a bug issue. it is not implemented. OK?! What i am asking is " If you did not implemented append_data function, why do you specify or define it as file permission". If you planning some feature for future release please do not add it

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: commercial backup software and zfs

2006-08-17 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Louwtjie, Thursday, August 17, 2006, 2:54:54 PM, you wrote: LB> Hi there LB> Did a backup/restore on TSM, works fine. I assume without ACLs, right? -- Best regards, Robertmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://milek.blogspot.c

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] ZFS & se6920

2006-08-17 Thread Roch
Robert Milkowski writes: > Hello Roch, > > Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:08:37 AM, you wrote: > R> My general principles are: > > R> If you can, to improve you 'Availability' metrics, > R> let ZFS handle one level of redundancy; > > R> For Random Read performanc

[zfs-discuss] Re: Why is ZFS raidz slower than simple ufs mount?

2006-08-17 Thread Bob Evans
Robert, Sorry about not being clearer. The storage unit I am using is configured as follows: X X X X X X X X X X X X X X \ \-- (Each X is an 18 GB SCSI Disk) The first 7 disks have been used for the ZFS RaidZ, I used the last disk (#14) for my UFS target. The first 7 are on one scsi cha

[zfs-discuss] Re: commercial backup software and zfs

2006-08-17 Thread Louwtjie Burger
Hi there Did a backup/restore on TSM, works fine. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] in-kernel gzip compression

2006-08-17 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello zfs-discuss, Is someone actually working on it? Or any other algorithms? Any dates? -- Best regards, Robert mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://milek.blogspot.com ___ zfs-discuss mai

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] ZFS & se6920

2006-08-17 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Roch, Thursday, August 17, 2006, 11:08:37 AM, you wrote: R> My general principles are: R> If you can, to improve you 'Availability' metrics, R> let ZFS handle one level of redundancy; R> For Random Read performance prefer mirrors over R> raid-z. If you use

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] zpool import/export

2006-08-17 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Eric, Wednesday, August 16, 2006, 4:49:27 PM, you wrote: ES> This seems like a reasonable RFE. Feel free to file it at ES> bugs.opensolaris.org. I've just did :) However currently 'zpool import A B' means importing pool A and renaming it to pool B. I think it would be better to change c

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS write performance problem with compression set to ON

2006-08-17 Thread Roch
Anantha N. Srirama writes: > Therein lies my dillemma: > > - We know the I/O sub-system is capable of much higher I/O rates > - Under the test setup I've SAS datasets which are lending > themselves to compression. This should manifest itself as lots of read > I/O resulting in much sma

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS write performance problem with compression set to ON

2006-08-17 Thread Anantha N. Srirama
Therein lies my dillemma: - We know the I/O sub-system is capable of much higher I/O rates - Under the test setup I've SAS datasets which are lending themselves to compression. This should manifest itself as lots of read I/O resulting in much smaller (4x) write I/O due to compression. This m

[zfs-discuss] zpool status inconsistent after user error?

2006-08-17 Thread Michael Schuster - Sun Microsystems
Hi, IHAC who is simulating disk failure and came across behaviour which seems wrong: 1. zpool status -v pool: data state: ONLINE scrub: resilver completed with 0 errors on Thu Aug 10 16:55:22 2006 config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM dataONLINE 0

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS & se6920

2006-08-17 Thread Roch
WYT said: Hi all, My company will be acquiring the Sun SE6920 for our storage virtualization project and we intend to use quite a bit of ZFS as well. The 2 technologies seems somewhat at odds since the 6920 means layers of hardware abstraction but ZFS seems to prefer more direct acc