Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS & iSCSI: where do do the mirroring/raidz

2006-08-01 Thread Darren J Moffat
Richard Elling wrote: Darren J Moffat wrote: So with that in mind this is my plan so far. On the target (the V880): Put all the 12 36G disks into a single zpool (call it iscsitpool). Use iscsitadm to create 2 targets of 202G each. On the initiator (the v40z): Use iscsiadm to discover (import)

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS & iSCSI: where do do the mirroring/raidz

2006-08-01 Thread Richard Elling
Darren J Moffat wrote: So with that in mind this is my plan so far. On the target (the V880): Put all the 12 36G disks into a single zpool (call it iscsitpool). Use iscsitadm to create 2 targets of 202G each. On the initiator (the v40z): Use iscsiadm to discover (import) the 2 202G targets. Cre

[zfs-discuss] ZFS & iSCSI: where do do the mirroring/raidz

2006-08-01 Thread Darren J Moffat
I have 12 36G disks (in a single D2 enclosure) connected to a V880 that I want to "share" to a v40z that is on the same gigabit network switch. I've already decided that NFS is not the answer - the performance of ON consolidation builds over NFS just doesn't cut it for me. [However think about

Re: [zfs-discuss] 3510 JBOD ZFS vs 3510 HW RAID

2006-08-01 Thread Luke Lonergan
Torrey, On 8/1/06 10:30 AM, "Torrey McMahon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.sun.com/storagetek/disk_systems/workgroup/3510/index.xml > > Look at the specs page. I did. This is 8 trays, each with 14 disks and two active Fibre channel attachments. That means that 14 disks, each with a

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool add spare

2006-08-01 Thread Jason A. Hoffman
On Aug 1, 2006, at 4:25 PM, Eric Ziegast wrote: Are hot spares implmented yet? I got Solaris 2006 6/06 installed and setup a ZFS pool and ZFS filesystem. So I suspect I don't have support for hot spares in Solaris 2006 6/06 (aka U2). Is there a Nevada version which supports zpool spares

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool add spare

2006-08-01 Thread eric kustarz
Eric Ziegast wrote: Are hot spares implmented yet? Yep, they are going to be in U3, they are not in U2 ( Solaris 2006 6/06 ). Hot spares was integrated in nevada build 42. check out: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/version/3/ eric I got Solaris 2006 6/06 installed and set

Re[3]: [zfs-discuss] zfs mount stuck in zil_replay

2006-08-01 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Robert, Wednesday, August 2, 2006, 12:22:11 AM, you wrote: RM> Hello Neil, RM> Tuesday, August 1, 2006, 8:45:02 PM, you wrote: NP>> Robert Milkowski wrote On 08/01/06 11:41,: >>> Hello Robert, >>> >>> Monday, July 31, 2006, 12:48:30 AM, you wrote: >>> >>> RM> Hello ZFS, >>> >>> RM>

[zfs-discuss] zpool add spare

2006-08-01 Thread Eric Ziegast
Are hot spares implmented yet? I got Solaris 2006 6/06 installed and setup a ZFS pool and ZFS filesystem. # zpool status pool: data state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM data

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] zfs vs. vxfs

2006-08-01 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Richard, Monday, July 31, 2006, 9:23:46 PM, you wrote: RE> Robert Milkowski wrote: >> Hello Richard, >> >> Monday, July 31, 2006, 6:29:03 PM, you wrote: >> >> RE> Malahat Qureshi wrote: Is any one have a comparison between zfs vs. vxfs, I'm working on a presentation for my mana

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] zfs mount stuck in zil_replay

2006-08-01 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Neil, Tuesday, August 1, 2006, 8:45:02 PM, you wrote: NP> Robert Milkowski wrote On 08/01/06 11:41,: >> Hello Robert, >> >> Monday, July 31, 2006, 12:48:30 AM, you wrote: >> >> RM> Hello ZFS, >> >> RM>System was rebooted and after reboot server again >> >> RM> System is snv_39, SPA

Re: [zfs-discuss] 3510 JBOD ZFS vs 3510 HW RAID

2006-08-01 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Aug 1, 2006, at 14:18, Torrey McMahon wrote: (I hate when I hit the Send button when trying to change windows) Eric Schrock wrote: On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 01:31:22PM -0400, Torrey McMahon wrote: The correct comparison is done when all the factors are taken into account. Making blank

Write cache (was: Re: [zfs-discuss] How to best layout our filesystems)

2006-08-01 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil Perrin wrote: > I suppose if you know > the disk only contains zfs slices then write caching could be > manually enabled using "format -e" -> cache -> write_cache -> enable When will we have write cache control over ATA/SATA drives? :-). - -- Je

Re: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-08-01 Thread Joe Little
I've submitted these to Roch and co before on the NFS list and off list. My favorite case was writing 6250 8k files (randomly generated) over NFS from a solaris or linux client. We originally were getting 20K/sec when I was using RAIDZ, but between switching to RAID-5 backed iscsi luns in a zpool

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs mount stuck in zil_replay

2006-08-01 Thread Neil Perrin
Robert Milkowski wrote On 08/01/06 11:41,: Hello Robert, Monday, July 31, 2006, 12:48:30 AM, you wrote: RM> Hello ZFS, RM>System was rebooted and after reboot server again RM> System is snv_39, SPARC, T2000 RM> bash-3.00# ptree RM> 7 /lib/svc/bin/svc.startd -s RM> 163 /sbin/sh

Re: [zfs-discuss] 3510 JBOD ZFS vs 3510 HW RAID

2006-08-01 Thread Torrey McMahon
(I hate when I hit the Send button when trying to change windows) Eric Schrock wrote: On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 01:31:22PM -0400, Torrey McMahon wrote: The correct comparison is done when all the factors are taken into account. Making blanket statements like, "ZFS & JBODs are always ideal"

Re: [zfs-discuss] 3510 JBOD ZFS vs 3510 HW RAID

2006-08-01 Thread Torrey McMahon
Eric Schrock wrote: On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 01:31:22PM -0400, Torrey McMahon wrote: The correct comparison is done when all the factors are taken into account. Making blanket statements like, "ZFS & JBODs are always ideal" or "ZFS on top of a raid controller is a bad idea" or "SATA drives ar

Re: [zfs-discuss] 3510 JBOD ZFS vs 3510 HW RAID

2006-08-01 Thread Eric Schrock
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 01:31:22PM -0400, Torrey McMahon wrote: > > The correct comparison is done when all the factors are taken into > account. Making blanket statements like, "ZFS & JBODs are always ideal" > or "ZFS on top of a raid controller is a bad idea" or "SATA drives are > good enoug

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs mount stuck in zil_replay

2006-08-01 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Robert, Monday, July 31, 2006, 12:48:30 AM, you wrote: RM> Hello ZFS, RM>System was rebooted and after reboot server again RM> System is snv_39, SPARC, T2000 RM> bash-3.00# ptree RM> 7 /lib/svc/bin/svc.startd -s RM> 163 /sbin/sh /lib/svc/method/fs-local RM> 254 /usr/sbi

Re: [zfs-discuss] 3510 JBOD ZFS vs 3510 HW RAID

2006-08-01 Thread Torrey McMahon
Frank Cusack wrote: On July 31, 2006 11:32:15 PM -0400 Torrey McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You're comparing apples to a crate of apples. A more useful comparison would be something along the lines a single R0 LUN on a 3510 with controller to a single 3510-JBOD with ZFS across all the d

Re: [zfs-discuss] 3510 JBOD ZFS vs 3510 HW RAID

2006-08-01 Thread Torrey McMahon
Luke Lonergan wrote: Torrey, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 8:32 PM You might want to check the specs of the the 3510. In some configs you only get 2 ports. However, in others you can get 8. Really? 8 acti

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-08-01 Thread eric kustarz
Joe Little wrote: On 7/31/06, Dale Ghent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 31, 2006, at 8:07 PM, eric kustarz wrote: > > The 2.6.x Linux client is much nicer... one thing fixed was the > client doing too many commits (which translates to fsyncs on the > server). I would still recommend the S

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, block device and Xen?

2006-08-01 Thread Angelo Rajadurai
For those outside of Sun you can get the same at http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-2271/6mhupg6gl?a=view -Angelo On 1 Aug 2006, at 11:37, Cindy Swearingen wrote: Hi Patrick, Here's a pointer to the volume section in the ZFS admin guide: http://docsview.sfbay/app/docs/doc/817-2271/6mhupg

Re: [zfs-discuss] privileges needed for a snapshot

2006-08-01 Thread Eric Schrock
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 05:31:24PM +0200, Thomas Maier-Komor wrote: > > Thanks for the pointer. This looks exactly like what I am currently > missing. The idea of having permission sets looks beneficial, too. > > Will this go into the next or a following update release of Solaris 10 > or will it

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, block device and Xen?

2006-08-01 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Sorry, here's the correct URL: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-2271/6mhupg6gl?a=view Cindy Al Hopper wrote: On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Cindy Swearingen wrote: Hi Patrick, Here's a pointer to the volume section in the ZFS admin guide: http://docsview.sfbay/app/docs/doc/817-2271/6mhupg6gl?a=vi

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, block device and Xen?

2006-08-01 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Hi Patrick, Here's a pointer to the volume section in the ZFS admin guide: http://docsview.sfbay/app/docs/doc/817-2271/6mhupg6gl?a=view I welcome any comments-- Cindy Patrick Petit wrote: Eric Schrock wrote: On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 01:10:44PM +0200, Patrick Petit wrote: Hi There, I l

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, block device and Xen?

2006-08-01 Thread Patrick Petit
Eric Schrock wrote: On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 01:10:44PM +0200, Patrick Petit wrote: Hi There, I looked at the ZFS admin guide in attempt to find a way to leverage ZFS capabilities (storage pool, mirroring, dynamic stripping, etc.) for Xen domU file systems that are not ZFS. Couldn't find a

Re: [zfs-discuss] privileges needed for a snapshot

2006-08-01 Thread Eric Schrock
Today you can give someone the 'ZFS File System Management' role to allow them to manipulate ZFS datasets. For finer grained control, we're planning on building it directly into ZFS: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=11130&tstart=15 Feel free to comment on the details in the a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-08-01 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Aug 1, 2006, at 03:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what does this exercise leave me thinking? Is Linux 2.4.x really screwed up in NFS-land? This Solaris NFS replaces a Linux-based NFS server that the clients (linux and IRIX) liked just fine. Yes; the Linux NFS server and client work tog

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, block device and Xen?

2006-08-01 Thread Eric Schrock
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 01:10:44PM +0200, Patrick Petit wrote: > Hi There, > > I looked at the ZFS admin guide in attempt to find a way to leverage ZFS > capabilities (storage pool, mirroring, dynamic stripping, etc.) for Xen > domU file systems that are not ZFS. Couldn't find an answer whether

[zfs-discuss] privileges needed for a snapshot

2006-08-01 Thread Thomas Maier-Komor
Hi everybody, this question has probably been asked before, but I couldn't find an answer to it anywhere... What privileges are require to be able to do a snapshot as a regular user? Is it already possible to pass ownership of a ZFS filesystem to a specific user, so that he's able to do a snap

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-08-01 Thread Jan Schaumann
Bill Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 06:08:04PM -0400, Jan Schaumann wrote: > > # echo '::offsetof vdev_t vdev_nowritecache' | mdb -k > > offsetof (vdev_t, vdev_nowritecache) = 0x4c0 > > Ok, then try this: > > echo '::spa -v' | mdb -k | awk '/dev.dsk/{print $1"+4c0/

[zfs-discuss] ZFS, block device and Xen?

2006-08-01 Thread Patrick Petit
Hi There, I looked at the ZFS admin guide in attempt to find a way to leverage ZFS capabilities (storage pool, mirroring, dynamic stripping, etc.) for Xen domU file systems that are not ZFS. Couldn't find an answer whether ZFS could be used only as a "regular" volume manager to create logical

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-08-01 Thread Casper . Dik
>Right, but I never had this speed problem when the NFS server was >running Linux on hardware that had the quarter of the CPU power and >half the disk i/o capacity that the new Solaris-based one has. >So either Linux's NFS client was more compatible with the bugs in >Linux's NFS server and

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs. Apple XRaid

2006-08-01 Thread Casper . Dik
>So what does this exercise leave me thinking? Is Linux 2.4.x really >screwed up in NFS-land? This Solaris NFS replaces a Linux-based NFS >server that the clients (linux and IRIX) liked just fine. Yes; the Linux NFS server and client work together just fine but generally only because the Lin