Re: [yocto] RFC: Improving the developer workflow

2014-08-08 Thread Alex J Lennon
Hi Paul, > Personally with how fragile package management can end up being, I'm > convinced > that full-image updates are the way to go for a lot of cases, but ideally > with > some intelligence so that you only ship the changes (at a filesystem level > rather than a package or file level). Th

Re: [yocto] RFC: Improving the developer workflow

2014-08-08 Thread Nicolas Dechesne
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Paul Eggleton wrote: > Personally with how fragile package management can end up being, I'm convinced > that full-image updates are the way to go for a lot of cases, but ideally with > some intelligence so that you only ship the changes (at a filesystem level > rath

Re: [yocto] RFC: Improving the developer workflow

2014-08-07 Thread Alex J Lennon
On 07/08/2014 14:05, Paul Eggleton wrote: > Hi Alex, > > On Thursday 07 August 2014 11:13:02 Alex J Lennon wrote: >> On 07/08/2014 10:10, Paul Eggleton wrote: >> fwiw Upgrade solutions are something that is still a read need imho, as >> I think we discussed at one of the FOSDEMs. >> >> (The other

Re: [yocto] RFC: Improving the developer workflow

2014-08-07 Thread Paul Eggleton
Hi Alex, On Thursday 07 August 2014 11:13:02 Alex J Lennon wrote: > On 07/08/2014 10:10, Paul Eggleton wrote: > fwiw Upgrade solutions are something that is still a read need imho, as > I think we discussed at one of the FOSDEMs. > > (The other real need being an on-board test framework, again im

Re: [yocto] RFC: Improving the developer workflow

2014-08-07 Thread Bryan Evenson
Paul, I am using the Yocto Project tools almost purely for userspace applications. I have tried to use the ADT and SDK in the past with limited success. I try to keep my local poky/oe working copies near up to date, which would mean rebuilding the SDK/ADT for each poky point release. For me

Re: [yocto] RFC: Improving the developer workflow

2014-08-07 Thread Alex J Lennon
On 07/08/2014 10:10, Paul Eggleton wrote: > Hi folks, > > As most of you know within the Yocto Project and OpenEmbedded we've been > trying to figure out how to improve the OE developer workflow. This > potentially > covers a lot of different areas, but one in particular I where think we can >