Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-08-03 Thread Dave Howorth
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 16:36:42 -0400 Adam Jackson wrote: > (accidentally sent to just sam initially, whoops) > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 7:22 AM Sam Varshavchik > wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 4:30 AM Böszörményi Zoltán > > wrote: > > > 2020. 07. 30. 21:20 keltezéssel, Dennis Clarke írta:

Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-07-31 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 31 Jul 2020 19:16:14 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 4:37 PM Adam Jackson wrote: > > > > (accidentally sent to just sam initially, whoops) > > Yes, and just had a two minute look at it -- this just seems to > disable pasting of the PRIMARY selection, completel

Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-07-31 Thread Sam Varshavchik
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 4:37 PM Adam Jackson wrote: > > (accidentally sent to just sam initially, whoops) Yes, and just had a two minute look at it -- this just seems to disable pasting of the PRIMARY selection, completely. I suppose that's one way to disable the middle mouse click. As well as t

Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-07-31 Thread Adam Jackson
(accidentally sent to just sam initially, whoops) On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 7:22 AM Sam Varshavchik wrote: > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 4:30 AM Böszörményi Zoltán wrote: > > 2020. 07. 30. 21:20 keltezéssel, Dennis Clarke írta: > > > On 7/30/20 6:39 PM, Elie Goldman Smith wrote: > > >> Countless peopl

Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-07-31 Thread Böszörményi Zoltán
2020. 07. 30. 21:20 keltezéssel, Dennis Clarke írta: On 7/30/20 6:39 PM, Elie Goldman Smith wrote: Countless people on forums ... Also they are not the source code nor would I rely on what countless people say on just about any matter whatsoever. I am not sure when the horrific "popular is co

Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-07-31 Thread Sam Varshavchik
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 4:30 AM Böszörményi Zoltán wrote: > > 2020. 07. 30. 21:20 keltezéssel, Dennis Clarke írta: > > On 7/30/20 6:39 PM, Elie Goldman Smith wrote: > >> Countless people on forums ... > > > > Also they are not the source code nor would I rely on what countless > > people say on ju

Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-07-31 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 14:39:04 -0400 Elie Goldman Smith said: > Countless people on forums say that middle-mouse pasting is an X11 feature. > > This document seems to confirm that it's an X11 feature: > https://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html > > > Please correct me if I'm wrong. It's an e

Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-07-30 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 7/30/20 6:39 PM, Elie Goldman Smith wrote: > Countless people on forums ... Also they are not the source code nor would I rely on what countless people say on just about any matter whatsoever. I am not sure when the horrific "popular is correct" logic became almost defacto pure truth but I rej

Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-07-30 Thread Sam Varshavchik
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 3:06 PM Elie Goldman Smith wrote: > Countless people on forums say that middle-mouse pasting is an X11 feature. "X11" is not the same thing as an "X server". > This document seems to confirm that it's an X11 feature: > https://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html Yes, i

Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-07-30 Thread Robert Heller
At Thu, 30 Jul 2020 14:39:04 -0400 Elie Goldman Smith wrote: > > > > Countless people on forums say that middle-mouse pasting is an X11 feature. > > This document seems to confirm that it's an X11 feature: > https://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html > > > Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-07-30 Thread Elie Goldman Smith
Countless people on forums say that middle-mouse pasting is an X11 feature. This document seems to confirm that it's an X11 feature: https://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html Please correct me if I'm wrong. On Friday, July 24, 2020, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > On 7/23/20 1:19 AM, Elie Goldm

Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-07-30 Thread Alan Coopersmith
X11 is a much larger system than just the X server. As that web page notes, this is from the "X11R6 Inter-Client Communication Conventions Manual", which documents the conventions for X clients to communicate with each other, not the X server itself. -Alan Coopersmith- ala

Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-07-29 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 01:17:16AM +1000, Adam Nielsen wrote: > > Say for example a user is writing a document, scrolling through it, > > and accidentally pastes text without knowing it. > > The pasted text might contain sensitive/private information. > > The user submits the document somewhere, an

Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-07-27 Thread Dave Howorth
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 04:19:16 -0400 Elie Goldman Smith wrote: > X.Org, to whom it may concern: > > I'm writing to suggest that Xorg's middle-mouse pasting should be an > optional feature, not an unchangeable behavior. > > The rationale is simple: > Middle-mouse pasting is only beneficial to user

Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-07-26 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 25 Jul 2020 01:17:16 +1000 Adam Nielsen wrote: > > > I'm writing to suggest that Xorg's middle-mouse pasting should be an > > optional feature, not an unchangeable behavior. > > Where are you seeing this Xorg behaviour? If I run "xev" and click the > middle mouse button, I only see a "

Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-07-25 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 04:19:16 -0400 Elie Goldman Smith said: this has nothing to do with xorg - each toolkit and/or client app implements this. xorg/xlibs just provide the mechanisms. they all do this because in x it *IS* expected behaviour and has been expected to work this way for 30 years or so

Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-07-24 Thread Adam Nielsen
> I'm writing to suggest that Xorg's middle-mouse pasting should be an > optional feature, not an unchangeable behavior. Where are you seeing this Xorg behaviour? If I run "xev" and click the middle mouse button, I only see a "button 2 pressed" event, I don't see any events relating to the clipbo

Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-07-24 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 7/23/20 1:19 AM, Elie Goldman Smith wrote: Solution: Middle-mouse pasting would be great as a setting that can be enabled/disabled by 'xset' on the command line. Please let me know if this would be simple to implement. It would not be, because it is not a X server behavior. It is simply a

Re: Suggestion for Xorg / about middle-mouse click pasting

2020-07-24 Thread Dave Howorth
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 04:19:16 -0400 Elie Goldman Smith wrote: > X.Org, to whom it may concern: > > I'm writing to suggest that Xorg's middle-mouse pasting should be an > optional feature, not an unchangeable behavior. > > The rationale is simple: > Middle-mouse pasting is only beneficial to user