Re: [XeTeX] bidi-problem --> problems with lines not starting in position 1 (even comments)

2016-11-19 Thread Zdenek Wagner
AFAIK polyglossia knows whether bidi is needed and loads it automatically. The advantage is that it can change the font and language specific things. But back to the problem. Missing \begin{document} means that something tried to typeset a text. It is caused by an expansion of \everypar which is r

[XeTeX] XeTeX bugs in bidirectional typesetting

2016-11-19 Thread Vafa Khalighi
Hi XeTeX uses TeX--XeT algorithm and has some serious problems in typesetting right to left text. About few years ago, I wrote to Peter Bre­it­en­lohner and we discussed together what needs to be fixed. Peter promised that he would fix the issues but unfortunately he passed away. I believe he

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX bugs in bidirectional typesetting

2016-11-19 Thread David Carlisle
Vafa Khalighi wrote > A) Drop the TeX--XeT model entirely and switch to LuaTeX (Omega) > bidi model > > > Unfortunately Omega's bidi model has its own set of bugs so even if > XeTeX goes this route, we need to fix quite some issues in its bidi > model. Long term I think that this would be a goo

[XeTeX] XeTeX bugs in bidirectional typesetting

2016-11-19 Thread Vafa Khalighi
Hi David Sadly, I can not agree with you; it seems that I have completely different perspective on bidi model which is reasonable considering my experience and expertise on the matter. LuaTeX (Omega) model is not a good development for XeTeX since you will find yourself surrounded by so many

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX bugs in bidirectional typesetting

2016-11-19 Thread Simon Cozens
On 20/11/2016 12:35, Vafa Khalighi wrote: > For the past 10 years I have reported numerous issues to the LuaTeX > and etex teams without any results but it is more than enough. I am > not going to waste time and energy doing useless things. Well, it's not necessarily useless. If both engines are

Re: [XeTeX] XeTeX bugs in bidirectional typesetting

2016-11-19 Thread Javier Bezos
Again, if you have an explicit list of issues with tex--xet that are not shared with tex-xet it would be good if you could post them here. And issues with the omega/luatex model, too. I resumed my work on the basic bidi support for babel and they would be very useful. Javier ---