Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Seemingly inexplicable shift in page origin between TL 2014 and TL 2016

2016-07-14 Thread David Carlisle
On 12 July 2016 at 16:17, Philip Taylor wrote: > \advance \voffset by 1 true in % REQUIRED ONLY FOR TL 2016 If it's really a difference in texlive check that you specified the same default driver page size (presumably A4) in both installations, not A4 in one and letter in the other or it ma

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2016-07-14 Thread Philip Taylor
Hallo David, and thank you for your suggestions. I have now found the following : 1) The primary cause of the displacement is the PDF/X-1A:2003 specials -- remove these, and the page returns to its normal vertical position, but shifted outwards (leftwards) somewhat; 2) The use of \usepackage {

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Seemingly inexplicable shift in page origin between TL 2014 and TL 2016

2016-07-14 Thread Ross Moore
Hi Phil, On Jul 14, 2016, at 10:02 PM, Philip Taylor mailto:p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk>> wrote: Hallo David, and thank you for your suggestions. I have now found the following : 1) The primary cause of the displacement is the PDF/X-1A:2003 specials -- remove these, and the page returns to its norm

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Seemingly inexplicable shift in page origin between TL 2014 and TL 2016

2016-07-14 Thread Philip Taylor
Ross Moore wrote: > I think what you are seeing is due to the /CropBox settings. Very happy to believe that, Ross (and will test later) but what I do not understand is why things have changed so dramatically in going from TeX Live 2014 to 2016. In 2014, adding the PDF/X-1A specials made no di

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Seemingly inexplicable shift in page origin between TL 2014 and TL 2016

2016-07-14 Thread Ross Moore
Hi Phil, On Jul 15, 2016, at 6:02 AM, Philip Taylor mailto:p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk>> wrote: Very happy to believe that, Ross (and will test later) but what I do not understand is why things have changed so dramatically in going from TeX Live 2014 to 2016. In 2014, adding the PDF/X-1A specials mad

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Seemingly inexplicable shift in page origin between TL 2014 and TL 2016

2016-07-14 Thread Philip Taylor
It transpires that it is /not/ the PDF/X-1A \specials that are the root cause of the problem. It is the use of \input eplain \beginpackages \usepackage {color} \endpackages If I replace this with what I believe to be the functionally equivalent : \input miniltx \input color all works a

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Seemingly inexplicable shift in page origin between TL 2014 and TL 2016

2016-07-14 Thread David Carlisle
On 14 July 2016 at 23:40, Philip Taylor wrote: > It transpires that it is /not/ the PDF/X-1A \specials that are the root cause > of the problem. It is the use of > > \input eplain > \beginpackages > \usepackage {color} > \endpackages > > If I replace this with what I believe to be the functi

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Seemingly inexplicable shift in page origin between TL 2014 and TL 2016

2016-07-14 Thread Ross Moore
Hi David, On Jul 15, 2016, at 8:49 AM, David Carlisle mailto:d.p.carli...@gmail.com>> wrote: well that'll be the page size special change as mentioned earlier I assume. Hmm. In which version of color.sty was this introduced? Presumably later than: Package: color 2016/05/09 v1.1c Standard LaT

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Seemingly inexplicable shift in page origin between TL 2014 and TL 2016

2016-07-14 Thread Ross Moore
Hi again David, On Jul 15, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Ross Moore mailto:ross.mo...@mq.edu.au>> wrote: Hi David, There is a potential conflict with pdfx.sty setting the /MediaBox . OK, I see what is going on now. You are allowing a colored rectangle to be drawn the size of the page, to support colour

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Seemingly inexplicable shift in page origin between TL 2014 and TL 2016

2016-07-14 Thread David Carlisle
On 15 July 2016 at 00:19, Ross Moore wrote: > Hi David, > > On Jul 15, 2016, at 8:49 AM, David Carlisle > wrote: > > > well that'll be the page size special change as mentioned earlier I assume. > > > Hmm. In which version of color.sty was this introduced? > pdftex.def (and luatex.def) have _