Re: [XeTeX] The future of XeTeX

2012-08-07 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos
> > I understand you're concerned about future font support in LuaTeX, but > technically the engine is little more than an extendable PDFTeX. Fonts > follow that philosophy: TFM (with mapping to T1) fonts are supported > as in PDFTeX, other formats must be loaded and processed by hand. Whether > i

Re: [XeTeX] The future of XeTeX

2012-08-07 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Tue, 7 Aug 2012 08:51:41 +0200 schrieb Paul Isambert: But there are also political issues: LuaTeX is developed by a team focusing on ConTeXt. LaTeX users will always be neglected, at least that is the feeling I have (Taco is very kind and helpful but he is paid for a speci

Re: [XeTeX] The future of XeTeX

2012-08-07 Thread Keith J. Schultz
Hi Apostolos, Ulrike, All, I agree TFMs are outdated, but for being backwards compatible the functionality has to be in there. From what I have so far understood about LuaTeX is that the font loader can handle about all types of fonts running around, today. Even AAT-fonts. In other words there

Re: [XeTeX] The future of XeTeX

2012-08-07 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2012/8/7 Keith J. Schultz : > Hi Apostolos, Ulrike, All, > > I agree TFMs are outdated, but for being backwards compatible the > functionality > has to be in there. > > From what I have so far understood about LuaTeX is that the font loader can > handle > about all types of fonts running around, to

Re: [XeTeX] The future of XeTeX

2012-08-07 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Tue, 7 Aug 2012 00:06:23 -0700 schrieb Apostolos Syropoulos: > Using TFMs and related technologies seems to me quite outdated. No, it is not outdated. It is a very useful technology when you want to handle special symbols or fonts. E.g. chess uses a lot of symbols which have no unicode positi

Re: [XeTeX] The future of XeTeX

2012-08-07 Thread Keith J. Schultz
Hi Zdenek, Am 07.08.2012 um 10:36 schrieb Zdenek Wagner : >> > Please do not mix engine and format. XeTeX does a few things i a > different way than TeX. In the LaTeX user's eyes the font loading is > different. It was not practical to modify the old LaTeX font loading > packages, therefore fon