Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Future state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-29 Thread Chris Travers
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:54 AM, George N. White III wrote: > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 11:00 AM, William Adams > wrote: >> On Oct 28, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Dominik Wujastyk wrote: >> >>> Personally, I would not mind if XeTeX went into maintenance mode.  I like >>> such stability.  It already has a g

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Future state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-29 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Mu EUR 0,02 : Chris Travers wrote: A couple things I'd point out. TeX makes it possible to create beautiful books. LaTeX makes it possible to create beautiful books easily. but encourages users to create ugly ones. Why do I say this ? Well, a user wishing to typeset a book using TeX has t

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Future state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-29 Thread Chris Travers
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > Mu EUR 0,02 : > > Chris Travers wrote: > >> A couple things I'd point out.  TeX makes it possible to create >> beautiful books.  LaTeX makes it possible to create beautiful books >> easily. > > but encourages users to creat

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Future state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-29 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Chris Travers wrote: I think you are assuming a lot about knowledge of book design. The LaTeX styles out of the box are a bit formal. I think the margins are too wide, and I prefer different fonts But I would hardly call them "ugly" ... OK. one quote from my 1993 paper "Book Design fo

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Future state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-29 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 5:57 AM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > Mu EUR 0,02 : > > Chris Travers wrote: > >> A couple things I'd point out.  TeX makes it possible to create >> beautiful books.  LaTeX makes it possible to create beautiful books >> easily. > > but encourages users to creat

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Future state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-29 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2011/10/29 Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) : > > > Chris Travers wrote: > >> I think you are assuming a lot about knowledge of book design. The >> LaTeX styles out of the box are a bit formal. I think the margins are >> too wide, and I prefer different fonts But I would hardly call >> them

Re: [XeTeX] TECkit map for Latin alphabet to Unicode IPA

2011-10-29 Thread Daniel Greenhoe
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Andy Lin wrote: > This is actually the reason I abandoned developing the map file > further. I had started based on the textipa replacements that I knew, > and then I discovered all the additional commands and realized that > they could not be implemented by TECkit

Re: [XeTeX] [tex-live] Ftuture state of XeTeX in TeXLive

2011-10-29 Thread Vafa Khalighi
XeTeX font support is heaps better and stable than what luaotfload package offers and I guess that is why many users still like using xetex instead luatex. I personally believe that it is a bad practice that luaotfload just copies ConTeXt code, it should not be deeply dependent on ConTeXt because

Re: [XeTeX] TECkit map for Latin alphabet to Unicode IPA

2011-10-29 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2011/10/30 Daniel Greenhoe : > On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Andy Lin wrote: >> This is actually the reason I abandoned developing the map file >> further. I had started based on the textipa replacements that I knew, >> and then I discovered all the additional commands and realized that >> they