Hi
Since Jonathan has no time any more for coding XeTeX, then what will be the
state of XeTeX in TeX distributions such as TeXLive? will be XeTeX removed
from TeXLive just like Aleph and Omega (in favour of LuaTeX) were removed
from TeXLive?
Currently we have a large number of Persian TeX users a
2011/10/28 Vafa Khalighi :
> Hi
> Since Jonathan has no time any more for coding XeTeX, then what will be the
> state of XeTeX in TeX distributions such as TeXLive? will be XeTeX removed
> from TeXLive just like Aleph and Omega (in favour of LuaTeX) were removed
> from TeXLive?
> Currently we have
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 13:19, Vafa Khalighi wrote:
> Hi
> Since Jonathan has no time any more for coding XeTeX, then what will be the
> state of XeTeX in TeX distributions such as TeXLive? will be XeTeX removed
> from TeXLive just like Aleph and Omega (in favour of LuaTeX) were removed
> from TeXL
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Mojca Miklavec
wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 13:19, Vafa Khalighi wrote:
>> Hi
>> Since Jonathan has no time any more for coding XeTeX, then what will be the
>> state of XeTeX in TeX distributions such as TeXLive? will be XeTeX removed
>> from TeXLive just like
That is not entirely true. Should the users of TeX (those who use Knuth's
original TeX engine) support the development of Knuth TeX or move to another
engine just because Knuth no longer extends TeX and he only fixes bugs?
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 11:33 PM, George N. White III wrote:
> On Fri, Oct
2011/10/28 George N. White III :
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Mojca Miklavec
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 13:19, Vafa Khalighi wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> Since Jonathan has no time any more for coding XeTeX, then what will be the
>>> state of XeTeX in TeX distributions such as TeXLive? will
My question in the first place had nothing to do with the development of
XeTeX. In fact it is a long time that there has been no development for
XeTeX and I have no problem with that. What scares me is that XeTeX may be
unusable in say several years.
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Vafa Khaligh
Personally, I would not mind if XeTeX went into maintenance mode. I like
such stability. It already has a great deal of functionality, probably
enough to last me the rest of my writing career. I do take Vafa's point,
though, that if future OS platforms break XeTeX, it would be nice to have
someo
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 01:58:18PM +0200, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> If nothing else, if nobody adapts the code, it might stop working with
> next version of Mac OS X or a version after that.
I assume this is related to native Mac font APIs, right? But then I
think the worst case with to disable that
On Oct 28, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Dominik Wujastyk wrote:
> Personally, I would not mind if XeTeX went into maintenance mode. I like
> such stability. It already has a great deal of functionality, probably
> enough to last me the rest of my writing career. I do take Vafa's point,
> though, that i
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Zdenek Wagner wrote:
>
> Generally, all XeTeX documents must render in luatex without the need
> of modifying the source. I see that things are changing. Simple नमस्ते
> दुनिया fails in luatex from TL 2010 but works in TL 2011. We cannot
> switch from XeTeX to luat
On Oct 28, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Kirk Lowery wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Zdenek Wagner
> wrote:
>
> Generally, all XeTeX documents must render in luatex without the need
> of modifying the source. I see that things are changing. Simple नमस्ते
> दुनिया fails in luatex from TL 2010 but
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 02:50:53PM +0200, Zdenek Wagner wrote:
> Generally, all XeTeX documents must render in luatex without the need
> of modifying the source. I see that things are changing. Simple नमस्ते
> दुनिया fails in luatex from TL 2010 but works in TL 2011. We cannot
> switch from XeTeX t
Vafa Khalighi wrote:
> As an example, the attached PDF is just a portion of a maths textbook with
> the title "Theory of Ordinary Differential Equation and Dynamic Systems"
> which has been typeset using XePersian and it is published just today
> in Iran.
> [1]http://www.mehrnews.com/fa/newsdeta
Am 28.10.2011 um 13:58 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
> If nothing else, if nobody adapts
> the code, it might stop working with next version of Mac OS X or a
> version after that.
Mac OS X is not the world. Classic Mac OS was the basis for the first XeTeX
development. When Apple decides to change its
As a simple user (very simple: none of my work gets published, I just
use TeX for myself): What do I have to think about, when moving from
XeLaTeX to LuaLaTeX?
I took a random document I created last week and tried to compile it
with lualatex instead of xelatex. It threw an error because of
p
2011/10/28 Khaled Hosny :
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 02:50:53PM +0200, Zdenek Wagner wrote:
>> Generally, all XeTeX documents must render in luatex without the need
>> of modifying the source. I see that things are changing. Simple नमस्ते
>> दुनिया fails in luatex from TL 2010 but works in TL 2011.
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 05:57:20PM +0200, Zdenek Wagner wrote:
> 2011/10/28 Khaled Hosny :
> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 02:50:53PM +0200, Zdenek Wagner wrote:
> >> Generally, all XeTeX documents must render in luatex without the need
> >> of modifying the source. I see that things are changing. Simp
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 11:00 AM, William Adams wrote:
> On Oct 28, 2011, at 9:00 AM, Dominik Wujastyk wrote:
>
>> Personally, I would not mind if XeTeX went into maintenance mode. I like
>> such stability. It already has a great deal of functionality, probably
>> enough to last me the rest of
2011/10/28 Khaled Hosny :
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 05:57:20PM +0200, Zdenek Wagner wrote:
> I don't know much about Indic scripts, all I know is that we have no
> special code for Indic shaping, so if things work then it works because
> it relies on generic OpenType features that require no specia
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 07:37:00PM +0200, Zdenek Wagner wrote:
> 2011/10/28 Khaled Hosny :
> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 05:57:20PM +0200, Zdenek Wagner wrote:
> > I don't know much about Indic scripts, all I know is that we have no
> > special code for Indic shaping, so if things work then it works
On Oct 28, 2011, at 12:54 PM, George N. White III wrote:
> 0. Why is Tex still necessary? My impression is that Knuth hoped to
> see his work used in more creative ways than TeX distros.
Well, that's why LuaTeX is being developed, and the thought behind the
development of ANT (though I haven'
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011, William Adams wrote:
> > majority of documents are created using GUI tools. What use cases
> > are better served by batch mode, and in what cases is TeX used by
> > default because of available GUI tools refuse to play.
>
> Large database publications. Variable data printing.
2011/10/28 Khaled Hosny :
> I think it would not be hard to convince Hans to write the code once he
> is given a clear specification (but that would require familiarity with
> OpenType and how it handles Indic shaping as well) and someone who can
> do the testing.
>
The rules are coded in ICU and P
2011/10/28 :
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011, William Adams wrote:
>> > majority of documents are created using GUI tools. What use cases
>> > are better served by batch mode, and in what cases is TeX used by
>> > default because of available GUI tools refuse to play.
>>
>> Large database publications. Va
On Fri, 28 Oct 2011, William Adams wrote:
> majority of documents are created using GUI tools. What use cases
> are better served by batch mode, and in what cases is TeX used by
> default because of available GUI tools refuse to play.
We have a process that starts with DocBook (XML) and gets con
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 13:19, Vafa Khalighi wrote:
Hi
Since Jonathan has no time any more for coding XeTeX, then what will be the
state of XeTeX in TeX distributions such as TeXLive? will be XeTeX removed
from TeXLive just like Aleph and Omega (in favour of LuaTeX) were
On 28 Oct 2011, at 21:20, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
>>
>> Omega was remove because it was buggy, unmaintained, but most
>> important of all: hardly usable. It took a genius to figure out how to
>> use it, while XeTeX is exactly the contrary. It simplifies everything
>> in comparison
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 02:03:52PM +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 01:58:18PM +0200, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> > If nothing else, if nobody adapts the code, it might stop working with
> > next version of Mac OS X or a version after that.
>
> I assume this is related to native Ma
2011/10/28 maxwell :
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2011, William Adams wrote:
>> majority of documents are created using GUI tools. What use cases
>> are better served by batch mode, and in what cases is TeX used by
>> default because of available GUI tools refuse to play.
>
> We have a process that starts wi
2011/10/28 Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) :
>
>
> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 13:19, Vafa Khalighi wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>> Since Jonathan has no time any more for coding XeTeX, then what will be
>>> the
>>> state of XeTeX in TeX distributions such as TeXLive? will be XeTeX
>
Zdenek Wagner wrote :
2011/10/28 Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) :
Mojca Miklavec wrote :
Omega was remove because it was buggy, unmaintained, but most
important of all: hardly usable. It took a genius to figure out how to
use it, while XeTeX is exactly the contrary. It simplifies every
2011/10/28 Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) :
>
>
> Zdenek Wagner wrote :
>
>> 2011/10/28 Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) :
>
>>> Mojca Miklavec wrote :
>
Omega was remove because it was buggy, unmaintained, but most
important of all: hardly usable. It took a genius to figure out how to
Zdenek Wagner wrote:
If I understand Mojca correctly, she compared XeTeX to Omega.
If that were the case, Zdenek, would Mojca not have written
"XeTeX is exactly the contrary. It simplifies everything
in comparison to Omega.", rather than "XeTeX is exactly
the contrary. It simplifies everythi
On Fr, 28 Okt 2011, Zdenek Wagner wrote:
> I cannot test other Indic scripts because I do not know them. Tibetan
> script may be difficult.
Tibetan is much simpler than Devanagari scripts. It has a certain amount
of fixed ligatures, plus a fw rules if one wants to make non-standard
ligatures (prac
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 04:06, Daniel Greenhoe wrote:
> What I would really like is a "drop in" solution involving a TECkit
> map only. That is, I would like to be able to hand such a map off to a
> linguist, and to tell him/her to simply add in something like this to
> his/her tex file:
> \addf
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