[XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread Chris Travers
Hi all; I need to generate the xelatex.fmt file. Apparently Fedora doesn't create these files. It is not a new issue, I have had issues with the latex.fmt files not created in the past. Is there any way to manually create this file? Best Wishes, Chris Travers

Re: [XeTeX] Always bold math & strange unicode-math behaviour

2011-10-18 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:33:05 +0200 schrieb Tobias Schoel: >>> Is there a workaround or do I need to type \mathbf{} at the beginning of >>> each \(\) myself? >> You shouldn't use \mathbf to make large part of an equation bold. >> \mathbf is meant for single symbols and only for things like number

Re: [XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread Zdenek Wagner
2011/10/18 Chris Travers : > Hi all; > I need to generate the xelatex.fmt file.  Apparently Fedora doesn't create > these files.  It is not a new issue, I have had issues with the latex.fmt > files not created in the past. > Is there any way to manually create this file? Certainly there is but it

Re: [XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread Peter Dyballa
Am 18.10.2011 um 10:30 schrieb Chris Travers: > Is there any way to manually create this file? TeX Live comes with a utility, fmtutil-sys. It allows to create FMT files for the *system*. Private FMT files can be created with fmtutil. The former is kind of a wrapper for the latter, so the only

Re: [XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread Vafa Khalighi
There are two ways to create xelatex.fmt: 1) xetex -ini -jobname=xelatex -progname=xelatex -etex xelatex.ini 2) fmtutil --byfmt xelatex -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex

Re: [XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Vafa Khalighi wrote: There are two ways to create xelatex.fmt: 1) xetex -ini -jobname=xelatex -progname=xelatex -etex xelatex.ini What does this accomplish that "xetex -ini -etex xelatex.ini" does not ? Philip Taylor -- Subscriptions, Archi

Re: [XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread Chris Travers
This has all been very helpful. At least I have things narrowed down a bit here: # fmtutil-sys --byfmt xelatex Defining UNIX/DOS style filename parser. catcodes, registers, compatibility for TeX 2, parameters, !! ! You are attem

Re: [XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread Susan Dittmar
Quoting Chris Travers (chris.trav...@gmail.com): > ! LaTeX source files more than 5 years old!. > > Any idea of what I do about this? I did not follow the thread closely. Are you the administrator of the system? If so, I'd advise to de-install fedora's TeX-suite and install texlive instead. That

Re: [XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread Chris Travers
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 6:07 AM, Susan Dittmar wrote: > Quoting Chris Travers (chris.trav...@gmail.com): >> ! LaTeX source files more than 5 years old!. >> >> Any idea of what I do about this? > > I did not follow the thread closely. Are you the administrator of the > system? If so, I'd advise to

Re: [XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Tue, 18 Oct 2011 05:43:57 -0700 schrieb Chris Travers: > This has all been very helpful. At least I have things narrowed down > a bit here: > > > # fmtutil-sys --byfmt xelatex > > ! LaTeX source files more than 5 years old!. > l.545 ...aTeX source files more than 5 years old!} > > Any id

Re: [XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread Chris Travers
Hi. I appear to have solved this by running xelatex -ini manually and then copying the ..fmt file to the appropriate directory. Thanks for everyone's help. As a note, I am really restricted to supporting TexLive versions that ship on stable long-term-support (and supported) distros We can a

Re: [XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Chris Travers wrote: > Hi. > > I appear to have solved this by running xelatex -ini manually and then > copying the ..fmt file to the appropriate directory. > > Thanks for everyone's help. > > As a note, I am really restricted to supporting TexLive versions that >

Re: [XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread Chris Travers
> Users also don't like to discover that the publishers' LaTeX format they > need won't work with the distro TeX, or that a document that formats correctly > on a co-author's Mac or Windows system won't format on their linux system. > The TeX ecosystem needs some reasonable limits on how long old v

Re: [XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread mskala
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011, George N. White III wrote: > Users also don't like to discover that the publishers' LaTeX format they > need won't work with the distro TeX, or that a document that formats correctly > on a co-author's Mac or Windows system won't format on their linux system. That seems to me

Re: [XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread Ulrike Fischer
Am Tue, 18 Oct 2011 06:43:59 -0700 schrieb Chris Travers: >> Users also don't like to discover that the publishers' LaTeX >> format they need won't work with the distro TeX, or that a >> document that formats correctly on a co-author's Mac or Windows >> system won't format on their linux system. T

Re: [XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:53 AM, wrote: > On Tue, 18 Oct 2011, George N. White III wrote: >> Users also don't like to discover that the publishers' LaTeX format they >> need won't work with the distro TeX, or that a document that formats >> correctly >> on a co-author's Mac or Windows system w

Re: [XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Chris Travers wrote: >> Users also don't like to discover that the publishers' LaTeX format they >> need won't work with the distro TeX, or that a document that formats >> correctly >> on a co-author's Mac or Windows system won't format on their linux system. >>

Re: [XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread Chris Travers
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:09 AM, Ulrike Fischer wrote: > > So the limit is five years (but only for the latex kernel). > The version date of my (current) latex.ltx ist > \edef\fmtversion{2011/06/27} > >> Or is XeTeX not intended to be used in these environments? > > I would say that if your latex

Re: [XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread Peter Dyballa
Am 18.10.2011 um 15:43 schrieb Chris Travers: > Given that server software that I work with usually has at least a > five year support cycle, what are those reasonable limits? For TeX I'd think in decades. And support in the way TeX understands this term is constant development and constant upd

Re: [XeTeX] How to manually create the xelatex.fmt?

2011-10-18 Thread Peter Dyballa
Am 18.10.2011 um 16:39 schrieb Chris Travers: > Here's a breakdown of OS support for TexLive versions for anyone interested: > > Debian Lenny: TexLive 2007 > Debian Squeeze: TexLive 2009 > Debian Sid: TexLive 2009 > Ubuntu 10.04 LTS: TexLive 2009 > Red Hat Enterprise 6: TexLive 2007 > That

Re: [XeTeX] traditional to simplified Chinese character conversion utility or data base

2011-10-18 Thread Daniel Greenhoe
Hi Zdenek, Thank you for your suggestions. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Zdenek Wagner wrote: > you can just use tr, ... if you supply the map. I don't know what "tr" is, but this comes back to one of my original problems; and that is, I don't have a map. Does anyone know of a publicly availa

Re: [XeTeX] traditional to simplified Chinese character conversion utility or data base

2011-10-18 Thread Andy Lin
You can try digging in the source for Tong Wen Tang (a Firefox extension). Or email its developers. They should have a map and additional notes on the conversion. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 18:50, Daniel Greenhoe wrote: > Hi Zdenek, Thank you for your suggestions. > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 2:53 PM

Re: [XeTeX] traditional to simplified Chinese character conversion utility or data base

2011-10-18 Thread Daniel Greenhoe
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Andy Lin wrote: > You can try digging in the source for Tong Wen Tang ... Or email its > developers. That's a great idea --- thanks! Dan On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Andy Lin wrote: > You can try digging in the source for Tong Wen Tang (a Firefox > exte