On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 12:54:43PM +0300, Ron Aaron wrote:
> On Sunday 01 August 2010 12:41:35 Khaled Hosny wrote:
>
> > It is not like they are enemies or even commercial competitors, it is
> > all TeX and, if one's need can be achieved by this or that engine, then
> > be it. Not everything can b
Selon Ron Aaron :
> On Sunday 01 August 2010 12:41:35 Khaled Hosny wrote:
>
> > It is not like they are enemies or even commercial competitors, it is
> > all TeX and, if one's need can be achieved by this or that engine, then
> > be it. Not everything can be done with traditional TeX techniques, n
On Sunday 01 August 2010 12:41:35 Khaled Hosny wrote:
> It is not like they are enemies or even commercial competitors, it is
> all TeX and, if one's need can be achieved by this or that engine, then
> be it. Not everything can be done with traditional TeX techniques, not
> in a efficient way at l
On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 11:04:49AM +0200, Paul Isambert wrote:
> Selon Philipp Stephani :
>
> >
> > Am 01.08.2010 um 09:28 schrieb Ron Aaron:
> >
> > > On Sunday 01 August 2010 10:16:27 Paul Isambert wrote:
> > >
> > >> Indeed, the \mark won't end up on the main vertical list. In the latest
> > >>
nitty-gritty would be packed away in a macro.
J.
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From: "Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)"
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Sent: 01 August 2010 10:13
Subject: Re: [XeTeX] \botmark and \firstmark not working f
On Sunday 01 August 2010 12:13:38 Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
> you might be
> able to gain access to your marks that way : you would use
> \box within your \line (to avoid problems with accidentally
> changing mode) and access the marks through a vsplit copy
> of the box{es} -- what do
Ron Aaron wrote:
Well, when I do an "unvbox" on the vtop which has the marks, it does work
(that is, the marks are visible on the page).
The problem though is that totally screws up the layout :(
Yes, that is to be expected, because of TeX's modes. I wonder
whether the solution might lie i
Selon Philipp Stephani :
>
> Am 01.08.2010 um 09:28 schrieb Ron Aaron:
>
> > On Sunday 01 August 2010 10:16:27 Paul Isambert wrote:
> >
> >> Indeed, the \mark won't end up on the main vertical list. In the latest
> >> TUGboat issue, Hans Hagen writes about this and proposes a nice
> >> solution...
Am 01.08.2010 um 09:28 schrieb Ron Aaron:
> On Sunday 01 August 2010 10:16:27 Paul Isambert wrote:
>
>> Indeed, the \mark won't end up on the main vertical list. In the latest
>> TUGboat issue, Hans Hagen writes about this and proposes a nice
>> solution... but with LuaTeX!
>
> Hmm. I really n
Ron Aaron wrote:
On Saturday 31 July 2010 23:25:24 Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
I would start by looking at your comparison with \null, Ron :
if you look at TB, p.~351, you will see that \null is defined
as \hbox {}, which is a pretty unlikely value for a null mark.
Hi, Phil --
On Sunday 01 August 2010 10:35:56 John Was wrote:
> It's just possible that \global \mark would do the trick. Otherwise,
> immediate writes and reads look like a good solution to me.
Well, when I do an "unvbox" on the vtop which has the marks, it does work
(that is, the marks are visible on the
08:16
Subject: Re: [XeTeX] \botmark and \firstmark not working for me ...
Selon Ron Aaron :
On Sunday 01 August 2010 06:23:19 Ron Aaron wrote:
> On Sunday 01 August 2010 00:47:59 John Was wrote:
> I wonder if my problem stems from the "mark" being
> inside a vbox? If that
On Sunday 01 August 2010 10:16:27 Paul Isambert wrote:
> Indeed, the \mark won't end up on the main vertical list. In the latest
> TUGboat issue, Hans Hagen writes about this and proposes a nice
> solution... but with LuaTeX!
Hmm. I really need XeTeX, since it knows how to typeset complex langu
Selon Ron Aaron :
> On Sunday 01 August 2010 06:23:19 Ron Aaron wrote:
> > On Sunday 01 August 2010 00:47:59 John Was wrote:
> > I wonder if my problem stems from the "mark" being
> > inside a vbox? If that's the problem, I don't know how I would get around
> > it ...
>
> Argggh! That is exactly
On Sunday 01 August 2010 06:23:19 Ron Aaron wrote:
> On Sunday 01 August 2010 00:47:59 John Was wrote:
> I wonder if my problem stems from the "mark" being
> inside a vbox? If that's the problem, I don't know how I would get around
> it ...
Argggh! That is exactly what my problem is. The "\mark
On Saturday 31 July 2010 23:25:24 Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
> I would start by looking at your comparison with \null, Ron :
> if you look at TB, p.~351, you will see that \null is defined
> as \hbox {}, which is a pretty unlikely value for a null mark.
Hi, Phil --
That turns out to
On Sunday 01 August 2010 00:47:59 John Was wrote:
> I also wondered about that, and another thing: are you sure that you are
> using the \mark commands *after* the note-count has been advanced?
Yes, absolutely sure. I wonder if my problem stems from the "mark" being
inside a vbox? If that's the
ay!
John
- Original Message -
From: "Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)"
To: "Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms"
Sent: 31 July 2010 21:25
Subject: Re: [XeTeX] \botmark and \firstmark not working for me ...
I would start by looking at your
I would start by looking at your comparison with \null, Ron :
if you look at TB, p.~351, you will see that \null is defined
as \hbox {}, which is a pretty unlikely value for a null mark.
** Phil.
Ron Aaron wrote:
I'm trying to get a range of numbers (of footnotes) for each page. So my
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