Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-06 Thread Peter Dyballa
Am 06.06.2010 um 18:11 schrieb George N. White III: cmsy is still being used somehow, somewhere: Page numbers, footnote marks – you could try to disable page numbers and leave footnotes for another try... -- Greetings Pete There's no place like ~ – (UNIX Guru)

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-06 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Will Robertson wrote: > On 2010-06-07 01:41:41 +0930, "George N. White III" said: > >> I replaced the accent macros with unicode glyphs, e.g. Möbius,  Poincar >> é, etc. >> One AMS text symbol (\S --> §) generated and undefined. > > Have you loaded xunicode? No (

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-06 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-07 01:41:41 +0930, "George N. White III" said: I replaced the accent macros with unicode glyphs, e.g. Möbius, Poincar é, etc. One AMS text symbol (\S --> §) generated and undefined. Have you loaded xunicode? cmsy is still being used somehow, somewhere: Needs to be fixed. But

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-06 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 01:11:41PM -0300, George N. White III wrote: > On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote: > > > You can now grap the four styles from git tree: > > http://github.com/khaledhosny/xits-math > > > > No proper release yet, but if no serious bugs appeared in the next 2

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-06 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote: > You can now grap the four styles from git tree: > http://github.com/khaledhosny/xits-math > > No proper release yet, but if no serious bugs appeared in the next 24 > hours, I'll make one. > > For text use "XITS", and "XITS Math" for math. Tha

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread wodzicki
> You can now grap the four styles from git tree: > http://github.com/khaledhosny/xits-math > > No proper release yet, but if no serious bugs appeared in the next 24 > hours, I'll make one. > > For text use "XITS", and "XITS Math" for math. > > Regards, > Khaled Thank you very much, Khaled! That

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 08:28:08PM -0700, wodzi...@math.berkeley.edu wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:02:15PM -0700, wodzi...@math.berkeley.edu > > wrote: > >> > On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 02:52:13PM -0700, wodzi...@math.berkeley.edu > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > I'm actually planning to includ

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread wodzicki
> On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:02:15PM -0700, wodzi...@math.berkeley.edu > wrote: >> > On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 02:52:13PM -0700, wodzi...@math.berkeley.edu >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> > I'm actually planning to include the rest of STIX styles in some >> later >> >> > release, STIX surpasses Termes in its

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread wodzicki
> On 06/05/2010 04:18 AM, Will Robertson wrote: >> If you ask me, I can add this as an option somewhere in the package. >> (I've seen old-style figures in maths in examples before, but never "in >> the wild".) > > I have, in A. N. Whitehead’s “An Introduction to Mathematics”; search > for the text

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread Joel C. Salomon
On 06/05/2010 04:18 AM, Will Robertson wrote: > If you ask me, I can add this as an option somewhere in the package. > (I've seen old-style figures in maths in examples before, but never "in > the wild".) I have, in A. N. Whitehead’s “An Introduction to Mathematics”; search for the text “other fun

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 04:02:15PM -0700, wodzi...@math.berkeley.edu wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 02:52:13PM -0700, wodzi...@math.berkeley.edu > > wrote: > >> > >> > I'm actually planning to include the rest of STIX styles in some later > >> > release, STIX surpasses Termes in its Greek and C

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread wodzicki
> On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 02:52:13PM -0700, wodzi...@math.berkeley.edu > wrote: >> >> > I'm actually planning to include the rest of STIX styles in some later >> > release, STIX surpasses Termes in its Greek and Cyrillic coverage. >> > >> > If there is a real demand, I can do it earlier, but the on

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 02:52:13PM -0700, wodzi...@math.berkeley.edu wrote: > > > I'm actually planning to include the rest of STIX styles in some later > > release, STIX surpasses Termes in its Greek and Cyrillic coverage. > > > > If there is a real demand, I can do it earlier, but the only impro

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread wodzicki
> I'm actually planning to include the rest of STIX styles in some later > release, STIX surpasses Termes in its Greek and Cyrillic coverage. > > If there is a real demand, I can do it earlier, but the only improvement > I see over regular STIX will be fractions and oldstyle figures. I think it's

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread Ulrik Vieth
On 06/05/2010 08:54 PM, George N. White III wrote: STIX is a very ambitious project for a group (scientific and technical publishers), some who have suffered financially since the project started. I think the technical work is a very minor portion of the overall effort (e.g., getting the Unicode

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote: > On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 03:57:53AM +0930, Will Robertson wrote: >> On 2010-06-06 02:54:13 +0930, Taco Hoekwater >> said: >> >> >Will Robertson wrote: >> >>On 2010-06-06 01:28:46 +0930, Eelis van der Weegen >> >> said: >> >> >> >>>If so, to wh

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread Ulrik Vieth
On 06/05/2010 07:24 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: If so, to what extent would this make XITS obsolete? Depends how good a job they do :) And whether the current STIX release schedule is reliable. Judging from past results, it is altogether possible that v1.1 won't be ready for release for half a

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread Apostolos Syropoulos
>Goodness is in the eye of the beholder. I expect some >scientific publishers will expect STIX to be used in MS >submissions. Large organizations may require Cambria >or STIX for documents (PDF?) that will be archived for >future generations. Commercial tools may be tweaked to >compensate for bu

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Will Robertson wrote: > On 2010-06-06 02:54:13 +0930, Taco Hoekwater said: > >> Will Robertson wrote: >>> >>> On 2010-06-06 01:28:46 +0930, Eelis van der Weegen >>> said: >>> If so, to what extent would this make XITS obsolete? >>> >>> Depends how good a job

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 03:57:53AM +0930, Will Robertson wrote: > On 2010-06-06 02:54:13 +0930, Taco Hoekwater > said: > > >Will Robertson wrote: > >>On 2010-06-06 01:28:46 +0930, Eelis van der Weegen > >> said: > >> > >>>If so, to what extent would this make XITS obsolete? > >> > >>Depends how g

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 03:29:31PM -0300, George N. White III wrote: > On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Will Robertson wrote: > > > On 2010-06-06 01:28:46 +0930, Eelis van der Weegen said: > > > >> On 2010-06-04 20:31, Khaled Hosny wrote: > >>> > >>> As promised, the OpenType MATH enriched versio

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Will Robertson wrote: > On 2010-06-06 01:28:46 +0930, Eelis van der Weegen said: > >> On 2010-06-04 20:31, Khaled Hosny wrote: >>> >>> As promised, the OpenType MATH enriched version of STIX fonts, XITS, >>> is now available. >> >> XITS looks very neat! >> >> Are

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-06 02:54:13 +0930, Taco Hoekwater said: Will Robertson wrote: On 2010-06-06 01:28:46 +0930, Eelis van der Weegen said: If so, to what extent would this make XITS obsolete? Depends how good a job they do :) And whether the current STIX release schedule is reliable. Judging f

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Will Robertson wrote: On 2010-06-06 01:28:46 +0930, Eelis van der Weegen said: On 2010-06-04 20:31, Khaled Hosny wrote: As promised, the OpenType MATH enriched version of STIX fonts, XITS, is now available. XITS looks very neat! Are the STIX people planning to release /official/ OpenType M

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-06 01:28:46 +0930, Eelis van der Weegen said: On 2010-06-04 20:31, Khaled Hosny wrote: As promised, the OpenType MATH enriched version of STIX fonts, XITS, is now available. XITS looks very neat! Are the STIX people planning to release /official/ OpenType MATH enriched versions

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread Eelis van der Weegen
On 2010-06-04 20:31, Khaled Hosny wrote: > As promised, the OpenType MATH enriched version of STIX fonts, XITS, > is now available. XITS looks very neat! Are the STIX people planning to release /official/ OpenType MATH enriched versions at some point as well (perhaps as part of STIX version 1.1 o

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Sat, Jun 05, 2010 at 01:58:10PM +0930, Will Robertson wrote: > On 2010-06-05 11:40:28 +0930, wodzi...@math.berkeley.edu said: > > >On the other hand, with > > > >\setmathfont{XITS Math} > >\setmainfont[Numbers=OldStyle,Mapping=tex-text]{STIXGeneral} > > > >I get improved STIX in Math, and the r

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-05 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-05 14:58:22 +0930, wodzi...@math.berkeley.edu said: I read your answer to my post as an admission that STIXGeneral, which covers actually all the usual 'text' blocks of the Unicode is not really suitable for text? Is it really so? My naive perhaps perception was that STIXGeneral was

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-04 Thread wodzicki
> On 2010-06-05 11:40:28 +0930, > wodzi...@math.berkeley.edu said: > >> On the other hand, with >> >> \setmathfont{XITS Math} >> \setmainfont[Numbers=OldStyle,Mapping=tex-text]{STIXGeneral} >> >> I get improved STIX in Math, and the regular STIX in text with *no* Old >> Style figures, plus unnecess

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-04 Thread Will Robertson
On 2010-06-05 11:40:28 +0930, wodzi...@math.berkeley.edu said: On the other hand, with \setmathfont{XITS Math} \setmainfont[Numbers=OldStyle,Mapping=tex-text]{STIXGeneral} I get improved STIX in Math, and the regular STIX in text with *no* Old Style figures, plus unnecesssary duplication of f

Re: [XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-04 Thread wodzicki
Thank you for the upload. > This early version provides: (...) > * proper sub/superscript positioning (not fine tuned yet). Yes, I can see that some superscripts/subscripts are positioned slightly too close to the corresponding symbol (e.g. 'l' in $t^l$) > * extensible radicals, delimiters

[XeTeX] XITS Math font - first beata

2010-06-04 Thread Khaled Hosny
As promised, the OpenType MATH enriched version of STIX fonts, XITS, is now available. This early version provides: * OpenType math constants values, necessary for proper layout of various math elements. * proper math accent positioning. * proper sub/superscript positioning (not fine tuned yet).