Re: [XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread Cyril Niklaus
Would something like this make you happy? That's what I've been using for years. Put it in your preamble. And of course, change the parindent size to somheting you like. \makeatletter \renewcommand\@makefntext[1]{% \vspace{2pt}% \setlength\parindent{-1.8em}% \setlength\leftskip{1.8em}%

Re: [XeTeX] "Options for all fonts" : colo[u]r, and the transparency byte

2011-06-05 Thread Jonathan Kew
On 5 Jun 2011, at 21:09, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 05.06.2011 um 21:54 schrieb Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd): > >> So why doesn't it ?! > > Phil, > > it does! It passes all \special{}s without touching them into the output > file. Whether you're using the xetex or the xelatex command pl

Re: [XeTeX] "Options for all fonts" : colo[u]r, and the transparency byte

2011-06-05 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
I don't think I really understand this, but never mind : I have a solution (TikZ) which I also need for another part of the project (fitting text to a path), so I'll just go with it ! ** Phil. -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.:

Re: [XeTeX] "Options for all fonts" : colo[u]r, and the transparency byte

2011-06-05 Thread Peter Dyballa
Am 05.06.2011 um 21:54 schrieb Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd): So why doesn't it ?! Phil, it does! It passes all \special{}s without touching them into the output file. Whether you're using the xetex or the xelatex command plays no role: you have only access to the xetex engine's trans

Re: [XeTeX] "Options for all fonts" : colo[u]r, and the transparency byte

2011-06-05 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Peter Dyballa wrote: Am 05.06.2011 um 21:24 schrieb Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd): So how is it, I am forced to ask, that an add-on package can achieve something that the underlying engine cannot ? This seems very odd to me. The fontspec package does not use PDF specials which TiKZ/PG

Re: [XeTeX] "Options for all fonts" : colo[u]r, and the transparency byte

2011-06-05 Thread Peter Dyballa
Am 05.06.2011 um 21:24 schrieb Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd): So how is it, I am forced to ask, that an add-on package can achieve something that the underlying engine cannot ? This seems very odd to me. The fontspec package does not use PDF specials which TiKZ/PGF uses. That's my sim

Re: [XeTeX] "Options for all fonts" : colo[u]r, and the transparency byte

2011-06-05 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Peter Dyballa wrote: Am 05.06.2011 um 14:06 schrieb Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd): What am I missing, please ? Mac OS X's deprecated xdv2pdf. And yet, Tikz/PGF can achieve transparency using the default driver (xdvipdfmx (0.7.8)), as Matthew Skala kindly pointed out and went on to de

Re: [XeTeX] "Options for all fonts" : colo[u]r, and the transparency byte

2011-06-05 Thread Peter Dyballa
Am 05.06.2011 um 14:06 schrieb Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd): What am I missing, please ? Mac OS X's deprecated xdv2pdf. -- Greetings Pete Don't force it; get a larger hammer. – Anthony's Law of Force

Re: [XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
By all means, Alessandro : ZIP all the files and send them direct as an attachment. Philip Taylor Alessandro Ceschini wrote: Sorry Phillip, but I can't find the way to post an attach here. I can't just copy all the .tex file in a mail, it's just too long! But, if you don't mind, I coul

[XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread Alessandro Ceschini
Sorry Phillip, but I can't find the way to post an attach here. I can't just copy all the .tex file in a mail, it's just too long! But, if you don't mind, I could send it to you via your mail. Obviously, if your enthusiasm has recovered, of course. -- Alessandro Cesch

Re: [XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Alessandro Ceschini wrote: Will the prologue suffice? Different people differ in their expectations. If I ask someone to help me, I try to give them all of the information that they will need in order to (a) replicate the problem, and (b) endeavour to find a solution. Someone else may think

Re: [XeTeX] "Options for all fonts" : colo[u]r, and the transparency byte

2011-06-05 Thread Andy Lin
IIRC, the fontspec manual mentions that font transparency through font loading commands is only available on Macs because it requires the xdv2pdf driver. -Andy -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [XeTeX] Mongolian

2011-06-05 Thread Жаргал Бадагаров
Hi Gareth! Thank you so much! I will take closer look at this tomorrow. Apparently the Code2000 font has many drawbacks. Best regards, Jargal -Original Message- > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05/06/11 09:53, Жаргал Бадагаров wrote: > > Hello members, > > >

[XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread Alessandro Ceschini
Will the prologue suffice? \documentclass[a4paper, 12pt, openany, draft]{book} \usepackage{fontspec} \defaultfontfeatures{Mapping=tex-text} \setmainfont{Garamond Premier Pro} \usepackage{polyglossia} \setmainlanguage{french} \setotherlanguages{dutch, english, german, latin, italian, spanish} \seto

Re: [XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Alessandro Ceschini wrote: My source is frenchb.ldf! Please take a look at this piece of code from frenchb.ldf dealing with footnotes: OK, two comments. 1) The use of ten inches appears to be as a sentinel, rather than the actual value intended for real use. 2) When I suggested you post yo

Re: [XeTeX] Mongolian

2011-06-05 Thread Gareth Hughes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/06/11 09:53, Жаргал Бадагаров wrote: > Hello members, > > > My name is Jargal. I am interested in the Mongolian Vertical Script Support > in MacOS. I have found a 2005 presentation of XETEX made in Uhan, where it is > said that Mongolian had

Re: [XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread John Was
I can't take time to absorb that, but it looks as if it wants to force the indentation at the start of a footnote to be 1.5em, which ought to be OK (rather more than I would have, but no matter just now). Just before the first line of your text (after you've loaded all your packages and so on)

[XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread Alessandro Ceschini
> To be honest, I wouldn't worry about the \makeatletter nonsense; it > really > isn't at the heart of your problem. If you are getting an \hbox that > is > overfull > by over 381pt (5.27"), the numbers have all but disappeared, and the > text > appears to be cut, then John Was's suggestion that

Re: [XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Alessandro Ceschini wrote: I'm sorry, Phillip, the problem is that I don't know much about the \makeatletter programming environment. I just deal with normal Latex commands, so that's really Arabic for me. The only thing I can tell you is I get loads of warning messages like this: Overfull \hb

Re: [XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread John Was
That huge overfull \hbox is surely because you have specified 10 inches as the indentation. Try 10pt instead of 10in (leaving everything else as given), and see what happens. John - Original Message - From: "Alessandro Ceschini" To: "Customizing footnote markers" Sent: 05 June 201

[XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread Alessandro Ceschini
> doesn't seem calculated to encourage further help. Perhaps if you > were to tell us in what way "it doesn't work", and and/or attach > a minimal source document that demonstrates the problem, there > would be a greater probability of someone getting to the root of > your problem. I'm sorry, Phi

Re: [XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
John Was wrote: I'm sure '10in' is a mistake - rather 10pt? And try replacing \hbox to \parindentFFN {} with \hbox to \parindentFFN{\hfill} Why, John ? An \hbox can be empty, surely ? (no space after FFN). Again, why, John ? \parindentFFN is a control word, and therefore soaks up th

Re: [XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Forgive my bluntness, but It doesn't work, anyhow. doesn't seem calculated to encourage further help. Perhaps if you were to tell us in what way "it doesn't work", and and/or attach a minimal source document that demonstrates the problem, there would be a greater probability of someone g

Re: [XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread John Was
I'm sure '10in' is a mistake - rather 10pt? And try replacing \hbox to \parindentFFN {} with \hbox to \parindentFFN{\hfill} (no space after FFN). I would also replace \@thefnmark.~#1 with \@thefnmark.\kern 0.5em #1 Otherwise the ~ will give a variable space after each footnote-cue, wher

[XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread Alessandro Ceschini
So should it look like this: \makeatletter \newdimen\parindentFFN \parindentFFN=10in \renewcommand \@makefntext [1]% {% \leavevmode \hbox to \parindentFFN {}\@thefnmark.~#1% } \makeatother It doesn't work, anyhow. -- Alessandro Ceschin

Re: [XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread John Was
I'd be curious to know what kind of a book could support a ten-inch indentation before the footnote-cue... John - Original Message - From: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) To: Customizing footnote markers Cc: Alessandro Ceschini Sent: 05 June 2011 16:21 Subject: Re: [XeTeX

Re: [XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Alessandro Ceschini wrote: Well, it looks to me as if the expansion of @makefntext tries to perform an assignment to \parindentFFN (even though you omitted an explicit assignment operator); surely this is not what you intended ? I intended to have an indentation before the footnote marke

[XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread Alessandro Ceschini
> Well, it looks to me as if the expansion of @makefntext tries > to perform an assignment to \parindentFFN (even though > you omitted an explicit assignment operator); surely this is > not what you intended ? I intended to have an indentation before the footnote marker. --

Re: [XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Alessandro Ceschini wrote: As I wrote: "look in frenchb.ldf to find the french settings." The definition of \@makefntext above is a simple example. Adjust it to your need. Since what I'm lacking here is indentation I tried to put together the following collage by pasting a piece of code

Re: [XeTeX] "Options for all fonts" : colo[u]r, and the transparency byte

2011-06-05 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Thank you for your further comments, Mathew : msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: The default driver for XeTeX is xdvipdfmx; you're probably already using it, so that's most likely not your problem. Yes, this is a XeTeX-specific question (I need non-TeX fonts), so I am using the XeTeX default dri

[XeTeX] Customizing footnote markers

2011-06-05 Thread Alessandro Ceschini
> As I wrote: "look in frenchb.ldf to find the french settings." The > definition of \@makefntext above is a simple example. Adjust it to > your need. Since what I'm lacking here is indentation I tried to put together the following collage by pasting a piece of code from frenchb.ldf. \makeatlett

Re: [XeTeX] "Options for all fonts" : colo[u]r, and the transparency byte

2011-06-05 Thread mskala
On Sun, 5 Jun 2011, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > Thank you for your prompt response, Mathew. In fact, I am using the default > driver (I am not aware how I might alter this), and was simply relying on it > to "do the right thing". If you could tell me how to identify the driver, and

[XeTeX] Mongolian

2011-06-05 Thread Жаргал Бадагаров
Hello members, My name is Jargal. I am interested in the Mongolian Vertical Script Support in MacOS. I have found a 2005 presentation of XETEX made in Uhan, where it is said that Mongolian had not yet obtained a full support of all its features. Do you know if it has been being developed so fa

Re: [XeTeX] "Options for all fonts" : colo[u]r, and the transparency byte

2011-06-05 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
msk...@ansuz.sooke.bc.ca wrote: Transparency depends very much on the output driver and its settings. I have used it successfully with xdvipdfm, by way of the "opacity" optin in TikZ; but the resulting output files are version 1.5 PDFs which not every printer supports. If you're using some ot

Re: [XeTeX] "Options for all fonts" : colo[u]r, and the transparency byte

2011-06-05 Thread mskala
On Sun, 5 Jun 2011, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > However, experimenting with all possible values from "00" to "FF" > for the transparency byte seems to have zero effect, in that the > second element laid down completely obscures whatever lies > beneath it. What am I missing, please ?

[XeTeX] "Options for all fonts" : colo[u]r, and the transparency byte

2011-06-05 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Will Robertson's "/X/?/TEX reference guide/" reads (in part) color=RRGGBB[TT] Triple pair of hex values to specify the colour in RGB space, with an optional value for the transparency. However, experimenting with all possible values from "00" to "FF" for the transparency byte seems to have z