Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages]

2019-02-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Lars Kurth writes ("Re: [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages]"): > This is fine by me Thanks, pushed now. Ian. ___ Xen-devel mailing list Xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org https://lists.xenproject.org/mailman/listinfo/xen-deve

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages]

2019-02-15 Thread Lars Kurth
On 15/02/2019, 15:40, "Ian Jackson" wrote: Lars Kurth writes ("Re: [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages]"): > as mentioned earlier, I think we need a legal/admin item for hardware and donations. See proposed addition below. ... > LEGAL > =

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages]

2019-02-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Lars Kurth writes ("Re: [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages]"): > as mentioned earlier, I think we need a legal/admin item for hardware and > donations. See proposed addition below. ... > LEGAL > = I would prefer not to bake the Linux Foundation address into this

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages]

2019-02-15 Thread Lars Kurth
Ian, as mentioned earlier, I think we need a legal/admin item for hardware and donations. See proposed addition below. On 15/02/2019, 11:57, "Ian Jackson" wrote: Ian Jackson writes ("Re: [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages]"): > So overall, for the reason

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages]

2019-02-15 Thread Juergen Gross
On 15/02/2019 12:56, Ian Jackson wrote: > Ian Jackson writes ("Re: [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 > more messages]"): >> So overall, for the reasons I explain, I'm going to commit this >> document (subject to the other comments etc.) *with* the requirement >> that hardware must

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages]

2019-02-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages]"): > So overall, for the reasons I explain, I'm going to commit this > document (subject to the other comments etc.) *with* the requirement > that hardware must be supported by Debian (at least, in -backport

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages] [and 2 more messages]

2018-11-09 Thread Stefano Stabellini
Hi Ian, Given that the Debian bug is filed so either way we have a path forward, should I get started with the discussion about shipping the hardware (get various approvals, prepare boxes for shipping, etc.)? That's going to take a few weeks for sure. Or would you like to wait for the Debian bug t

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages] [and 2 more messages]

2018-11-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Julien Grall writes ("Re: [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages] [and 2 more messages]"): > AFAICT, Ian's main concern was adding yet another dependency on external > entity. We could put the .deb repository on xenbits. There remains the question

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages] [and 2 more messages]

2018-11-05 Thread Julien Grall
Hi Stefano, On 02/11/2018 23:44, Stefano Stabellini wrote: On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, Julien Grall wrote: On 02/11/2018 17:56, Stefano Stabellini wrote: On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, Ian Jackson wrote: Ie the biggest work here of all kinds is is glue. Adding more entities to the problem will increase rather

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages] [and 2 more messages]

2018-11-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Stefano Stabellini writes ("Re: [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages] [and 2 more messages]"): > Basically, you are saying that even if had a well maintained deb > repository of kernel packages for OSSTest to use, doesn't matter how we > achieve th

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages] [and 2 more messages]

2018-11-02 Thread Stefano Stabellini
On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, Julien Grall wrote: > On 02/11/2018 17:56, Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > Ie the biggest work here of all kinds is is glue. Adding more > > > entities to the problem will increase rather than reduce the amount of > > > glue code that

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages] [and 2 more messages]

2018-11-02 Thread Julien Grall
On 02/11/2018 17:56, Stefano Stabellini wrote: On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, Ian Jackson wrote: Ie the biggest work here of all kinds is is glue. Adding more entities to the problem will increase rather than reduce the amount of glue code that needs to be written. Basically, you are saying that even

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages] [and 2 more messages]

2018-11-02 Thread Stefano Stabellini
On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > If the Debian cross compilers are OK, then I think the necessary > > > changes to osstest are: > ... > > I thought that we could have provided a deb repository with alternative > > kernels for OSSTests to use. We would have scripts to generate those deb

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages] [and 2 more messages]

2018-11-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Julien Grall writes ("Re: [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages] [and 2 more messages]"): > On 02/11/2018 15:44, Ian Jackson wrote: > > We have more x86 capacity and are deploying some dedicated build > > hosts. But cross-compilation is more comple

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages]

2018-11-02 Thread Stefano Stabellini
On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, Lars Kurth wrote: > I thought that we could have provided a deb repository with alternative > kernels for OSSTests to use. We would have scripts to generate those deb > packages from the Xen ARM Linux tree in a repository on xenbits, but we > wouldn't necessarily

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages] [and 2 more messages]

2018-11-02 Thread Julien Grall
Hi, On 02/11/2018 15:44, Ian Jackson wrote: Julien Grall writes ("Re: [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages] [and 2 more messages]"): On 02/11/2018 15:05, Ian Jackson wrote: I guess that's probably tolerable. We'd have to think about whether w

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages] [and 2 more messages]

2018-11-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Julien Grall writes ("Re: [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages] [and 2 more messages]"): > On 02/11/2018 15:05, Ian Jackson wrote: > > I guess that's probably tolerable. We'd have to think about whether > > we should snapshot them, or install them

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages] [and 2 more messages]

2018-11-02 Thread Julien Grall
Hi, On 02/11/2018 15:05, Ian Jackson wrote: Stefano Stabellini writes ("Re: [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages]"): Thank you for the detailed answer and the willingness to see osstest changed in this respect. Sure. It's not fixed in stone,

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages] [and 2 more messages]

2018-11-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Stefano Stabellini writes ("Re: [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages]"): > Thank you for the detailed answer and the willingness to see osstest > changed in this respect. Sure. It's not fixed in stone, and a variety of approachs will fit into it

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages]

2018-11-02 Thread Wei Liu
On Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 10:16:48AM +, Lars Kurth wrote: > Hi all, > > adding Wei because of ... > > User facing part: https://gitlab.com/xen-project/xen/pipelines > Back-end: https://gitlab.com/xen-project/xen-gitlab-ci > There are also some scripts in > http://xenbits.xen.org/gitweb/?p=xe

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition

2018-11-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Stefano Stabellini writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition"): > FYI I have been talking with Ian about sending Xilinx MPSoC boards to > the COLO for OSSTests usage for a while now. Ian wrote that he would > send "a checklist for OSSTests ha

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages]

2018-11-02 Thread Lars Kurth
Hi all, adding Wei because of ... User facing part: https://gitlab.com/xen-project/xen/pipelines Back-end: https://gitlab.com/xen-project/xen-gitlab-ci There are also some scripts in http://xenbits.xen.org/gitweb/?p=xen.git;a=tree;f=automation;hb=HEAD related to this On 01/11/2018, 18:12, "

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages]

2018-11-01 Thread Stefano Stabellini
Hi Ian, Thank you for the detailed answer and the willingness to see OSSTest changed in this respect. Let me premise that as much as I would like this to be done, I had a look at my schedule, and, realistically, I can only volunteer very little time on this. In regards to the two Xilinx boards, i

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition

2018-11-01 Thread Stefano Stabellini
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018, Lars Kurth wrote: > On 01/11/2018, 11:30, "George Dunlap" wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 6:46 PM Stefano Stabellini > wrote: > > > > --- > > > > + Baremetal boot from Debian stable or stable-backports: > > > > > > > > In order to avoid cross-compi

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages] [and 2 more messages]

2018-11-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Stefano Stabellini writes ("Re: [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages]"): > I am suggesting to use Debian for the installer and rootfs, but to use a > different kernel for it. osstest already knows how to do that in principle, because it knows how to insert a Debian bac

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition

2018-11-01 Thread Lars Kurth
On 01/11/2018, 11:30, "George Dunlap" wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 6:46 PM Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > > --- > > > + Baremetal boot from Debian stable or stable-backports: > > > > > > In order to avoid cross-compilation, Osstest must be able to install a > > >

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition

2018-11-01 Thread George Dunlap
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 6:46 PM Stefano Stabellini wrote: > > > --- > > > + Baremetal boot from Debian stable or stable-backports: > > > > > > In order to avoid cross-compilation, Osstest must be able to install a > > > bare-metal system on the host itself in order to build Linux and Xen > > > tes

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition

2018-10-31 Thread Stefano Stabellini
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018, George Dunlap wrote: > [CC'ing Stefano and Julien] > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 5:49 PM George Dunlap wrote: > > > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:14 PM Ian Jackson > > wrote: > > > + + Baremetal boot from Debian stable or stable-backports: > > > + > > > + A suitable Linux ke

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages]

2018-10-31 Thread Stefano Stabellini
> Julien Grall writes ("Re: [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition"): > > Most of the time, the issue to boot Debian is related to the kernel. > > Yet, the price might be too high for some of the vendors to donate the > > hardware. [...] > > > > I still want to encourage vendor to work upst

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition

2018-10-31 Thread Julien Grall
Hi Ian, On 10/31/18 2:44 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: I'm going to reply to this email twice. This email is about what seem to be the noncontentious issues: everything *except* the requirement in my document that the board is supported by Debian -backports kernels, at least. Julien Grall writes ("R

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition

2018-10-31 Thread George Dunlap
[CC'ing Stefano and Julien] On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 5:49 PM George Dunlap wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:14 PM Ian Jackson wrote: > > + + Baremetal boot from Debian stable or stable-backports: > > + > > + A suitable Linux kernel binary which can boot baremetal on the > > + propose

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition

2018-10-31 Thread George Dunlap
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:14 PM Ian Jackson wrote: > + + Baremetal boot from Debian stable or stable-backports: > + > + A suitable Linux kernel binary which can boot baremetal on the > + proposed hardware must be available from Debian (at least > + `stable', or, if that is not possib

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition [and 1 more messages]

2018-10-31 Thread Ian Jackson
I'm going to reply to this email twice. This email is about the requirement in my document that the board is supported by Debian -backports kernels, at least. I'm replying to two mail@: first Julien's; then Stefano's. Julien Grall writes ("Re: [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition"): > Mo

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition

2018-10-31 Thread Ian Jackson
I'm going to reply to this email twice. This email is about what seem to be the noncontentious issues: everything *except* the requirement in my document that the board is supported by Debian -backports kernels, at least. Julien Grall writes ("Re: [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition"): >

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition

2018-10-30 Thread Stefano Stabellini
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018, Julien Grall wrote: > Hi Ian, > > On 10/30/18 4:13 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > > +Compatibility with Xen and Linux - requirements > > +--- > > + > > +(Normally these issues are not a problem for x86, except perhaps for > > +the network

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition

2018-10-30 Thread Julien Grall
Hi Ian, On 10/30/18 4:13 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: +Compatibility with Xen and Linux - requirements +--- + +(Normally these issues are not a problem for x86, except perhaps for +the network and storage controllers - see MASS STORAGE and NETWORKING, +above

Re: [Xen-devel] [OSSTEST PATCH] README.hardware-acquisition

2018-10-30 Thread Jan Beulich
>>> On 30.10.18 at 17:13, wrote: > New document-cum-checklist, for helping with hardware procurement. > > Signed-off-by: Ian Jackson I don't think any acks should be needed here, but if so: Acked-by: Jan Beulich Jan ___ Xen-devel mailing list Xen