On 01/10/2018 06:50 AM, Juergen Gross wrote:
> On 09/01/18 23:11, Hans van Kranenburg wrote:
>> On 01/09/2018 07:22 PM, Rich Persaud wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> Since the primary audience for security fixes are production
>>> deployments of Xen where customer assets are at risk, is there an
>>> estimate for
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 4:27 AM, Wei Liu wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 08:32:24AM +, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 07:43:51PM +, Wei Liu wrote:
>> > On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 05:45:32PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> > > AIUI we have a series for pv-in-pvh shim which is
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 08:32:24AM +, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 07:43:51PM +, Wei Liu wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 05:45:32PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > AIUI we have a series for pv-in-pvh shim which is nearing completion
> > > in the sense that it will hav
On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 07:43:51PM +, Wei Liu wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 05:45:32PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > AIUI we have a series for pv-in-pvh shim which is nearing completion
> > in the sense that it will have been well-tested (especially the
> > hypervisor parts) and has good fun
On 09/01/18 23:11, Hans van Kranenburg wrote:
> On 01/09/2018 07:22 PM, Rich Persaud wrote:
On Jan 9, 2018, at 12:56, Stefano Stabellini
wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018, Doug Goldstein wrote:
On 1/9/18 11:33 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
On 09.01.18 at 18:23, wrote:
>> O
On 2018-01-10 11:11, Hans van Kranenburg wrote:
Since the primary audience for security fixes are production
deployments of Xen where customer assets are at risk, is there an
estimate for the percentage/size of Xen deployments where PVH (not
only Xen 4.10) has already been deployed for product
On 01/09/2018 01:57 PM, Matt Wilson wrote:
> Let me know if you need any help with the sidecar script. Generally
> it's straightforward enough to build so I'm sure you won't have any
> trouble. Here's one that I used for local testing on my laptop in a
> CentOS-ish chroot (we have other bits respon
On 01/09/2018 07:22 PM, Rich Persaud wrote:
>>> On Jan 9, 2018, at 12:56, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018, Doug Goldstein wrote:
>>> On 1/9/18 11:33 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>> On 09.01.18 at 18:23, wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Stefano Stabellini
> wro
On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 05:58:46PM +, Wei Liu wrote:
>
> Ian has been busy writing the sidecar script and Roger and I have been
> working on cleaning up the branch. We want to post a new version as
> soon as possible (tomorrow or even tonight).
Ian,
Let me know if you need any help with the
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Wei Liu wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 05:45:32PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> AIUI we have a series for pv-in-pvh shim which is nearing completion
>> in the sense that it will have been well-tested (especially the
>> hypervisor parts) and has good functionality.
On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 05:45:32PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> AIUI we have a series for pv-in-pvh shim which is nearing completion
> in the sense that it will have been well-tested (especially the
> hypervisor parts) and has good functionality. (Wei is handling the
> assembly of this series.)
>
>> On Jan 9, 2018, at 12:56, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018, Doug Goldstein wrote:
>> On 1/9/18 11:33 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 09.01.18 at 18:23, wrote:
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Stefano Stabellini
wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018, George Dunlap wrot
On 01/09/2018 06:13 PM, Doug Goldstein wrote:
> On 1/8/18 11:45 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> But this is not a usual situation. This time, we don't have the time
>> to wait.
>>
>> Opinions ?
>
> I'm going to follow up with a top post with my feelings and from info on
> various parts of the thread.
>
On 1/8/18 11:45 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
> But this is not a usual situation. This time, we don't have the time
> to wait.
>
> Opinions ?
I'm going to follow up with a top post with my feelings and from info on
various parts of the thread.
We have 2 versions of PV shim, the Citrix version and the
On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 11:59:01AM -0600, Doug Goldstein wrote:
> On 1/9/18 5:50 AM, Wei Liu wrote:
> >
> > We haven't tested booting the series I posted in HVM mode, but off the
> > top of my head it should work in HVM mode as well -- the multiboot path
> > is left intact.
> >
>
> Can we actual
On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 09:23:03AM -0800, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Stefano Stabellini
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 9 Jan 2018, George Dunlap wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 9:01 PM, Rich Persaud wrote:
> >> > On a similarly pragmatic note: would a variation of Anthony's
On 1/9/18 5:50 AM, Wei Liu wrote:
>
> We haven't tested booting the series I posted in HVM mode, but off the
> top of my head it should work in HVM mode as well -- the multiboot path
> is left intact.
>
Can we actually do this before committing to this series? I've seen a
number of "this should
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018, Doug Goldstein wrote:
> On 1/9/18 11:33 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 09.01.18 at 18:23, wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Stefano Stabellini
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018, George Dunlap wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 9:01 PM, Rich Persaud wrote:
> >
On 1/8/18 3:44 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
> It's not particularly hard to plumb through I think but if you are
> using PCI passthrough for PV, then you really shouldn't worry about
> Spectre/Meltdown. That PV guest can already read all of physical
> memory (since no IOMMU is used) and they can
On 1/9/18 11:33 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
On 09.01.18 at 18:23, wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Stefano Stabellini
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018, George Dunlap wrote:
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 9:01 PM, Rich Persaud wrote:
> On a similarly pragmatic note: would a variation of
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:33 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
On 09.01.18 at 18:23, wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Stefano Stabellini
>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018, George Dunlap wrote:
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 9:01 PM, Rich Persaud wrote:
> On a similarly pragmatic note: would
>>> On 09.01.18 at 18:23, wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Stefano Stabellini
> wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018, George Dunlap wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 9:01 PM, Rich Persaud wrote:
>>> > On a similarly pragmatic note: would a variation of Anthony's vixen patch
> series be suitable
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Stefano Stabellini
wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jan 2018, George Dunlap wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 9:01 PM, Rich Persaud wrote:
>> > On a similarly pragmatic note: would a variation of Anthony's vixen patch
>> > series be suitable for pre-PVH Xen 4.6 - 4.9? These ver
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018, George Dunlap wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 9:01 PM, Rich Persaud wrote:
> > On a similarly pragmatic note: would a variation of Anthony's vixen patch
> > series be suitable for pre-PVH Xen 4.6 - 4.9? These versions are currently
> > documented as security-supported (Oct 2
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 2:49 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Andrew Cooper writes ("Re: Radical proposal: ship not-fully-tidied shim as
> 4.10.1"):
>> Does this sound fair?
>
> Everything is on fire. Your proposal seems much less radical than
> mine. I doubt it will produce a release to our users tomor
On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 06:08:53AM -0800, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On Jan 9, 2018 2:59 AM, "Ian Jackson" wrote:
>
> George Dunlap writes ("Re: Radical proposal: ship not-fully-tidied shim as
> 4.10.1"):
> > On 01/09/2018 10:53 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > And as my other mail suggests, I don't th
On Jan 9, 2018 2:59 AM, "Ian Jackson" wrote:
George Dunlap writes ("Re: Radical proposal: ship not-fully-tidied shim as
4.10.1"):
> On 01/09/2018 10:53 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > And as my other mail suggests, I don't think we should allow this work
> > to be blocked by outstanding reviewed. IMO
On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 01:24:02AM -0700, Jan Beulich wrote:
> >>> On 09.01.18 at 01:14, wrote:
> > On 08/01/2018 17:45, Ian Jackson wrote:
> >> AIUI we have a series for pv-in-pvh shim which is nearing completion
> >> in the sense that it will have been well-tested (especially the
> >> hypervisor
George Dunlap writes ("Re: Radical proposal: ship not-fully-tidied shim as
4.10.1"):
> On 01/09/2018 10:53 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > And as my other mail suggests, I don't think we should allow this work
> > to be blocked by outstanding reviewed. IMO we should ship what we
> > have ASAP.
>
> We
On 01/09/2018 10:53 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Andrew Cooper writes ("Re: Radical proposal: ship not-fully-tidied shim as
> 4.10.1"):
>> What I mean by this is
>> that, if we agree to go along this route, patches should be committed to
>> staging then immediately cherrypicked to staging-4.10, rather
Andrew Cooper writes ("Re: Radical proposal: ship not-fully-tidied shim as
4.10.1"):
> What I mean by this is
> that, if we agree to go along this route, patches should be committed to
> staging then immediately cherrypicked to staging-4.10, rather than
> committed to staging-4.10 directly. This e
Andrew Cooper writes ("Re: Radical proposal: ship not-fully-tidied shim as
4.10.1"):
> Does this sound fair?
Everything is on fire. Your proposal seems much less radical than
mine. I doubt it will produce a release to our users tomorrow, let
alone this week.
If we can't get agreement to commit
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 9:01 PM, Rich Persaud wrote:
> On a similarly pragmatic note: would a variation of Anthony's vixen patch
> series be suitable for pre-PVH Xen 4.6 - 4.9? These versions are currently
> documented as security-supported (Oct 2018 - July 2020).
Hmm, Ian's mail seems to be fo
>>> On 09.01.18 at 01:14, wrote:
> On 08/01/2018 17:45, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> AIUI we have a series for pv-in-pvh shim which is nearing completion
>> in the sense that it will have been well-tested (especially the
>> hypervisor parts) and has good functionality. (Wei is handling the
>> assembly o
On 08/01/2018 17:45, Ian Jackson wrote:
> AIUI we have a series for pv-in-pvh shim which is nearing completion
> in the sense that it will have been well-tested (especially the
> hypervisor parts) and has good functionality. (Wei is handling the
> assembly of this series.)
>
> The series, however,
> On Jan 8, 2018, at 16:44, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Rich Persaud wrote:
>> On a similarly pragmatic note: would a variation of Anthony's vixen patch
>> series be suitable for pre-PVH Xen 4.6 - 4.9? These versions are currently
>> documented as security-support
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Rich Persaud wrote:
>> On Jan 8, 2018, at 12:45, Ian Jackson wrote:
>>
>> AIUI we have a series for pv-in-pvh shim which is nearing completion
>> in the sense that it will have been well-tested (especially the
>> hypervisor parts) and has good functionality. (Wei
> On Jan 8, 2018, at 12:45, Ian Jackson wrote:
>
> AIUI we have a series for pv-in-pvh shim which is nearing completion
> in the sense that it will have been well-tested (especially the
> hypervisor parts) and has good functionality. (Wei is handling the
> assembly of this series.)
>
> The seri
> On 8 Jan 2018, at 17:45, Ian Jackson wrote:
>
>
> But this is not a usual situation. This time, we don't have the time
> to wait.
>
> Opinions ?
>
> Ian.
+1
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On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 05:45:32PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> AIUI we have a series for pv-in-pvh shim which is nearing completion
>> in the sense that it will have been well-tested (especially the
>> hypervisor parts) and has good
On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 05:45:32PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> AIUI we have a series for pv-in-pvh shim which is nearing completion
> in the sense that it will have been well-tested (especially the
> hypervisor parts) and has good functionality. (Wei is handling the
> assembly of this series.)
>
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 9:45 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
> AIUI we have a series for pv-in-pvh shim which is nearing completion
> in the sense that it will have been well-tested (especially the
> hypervisor parts) and has good functionality. (Wei is handling the
> assembly of this series.)
>
> The seri
AIUI we have a series for pv-in-pvh shim which is nearing completion
in the sense that it will have been well-tested (especially the
hypervisor parts) and has good functionality. (Wei is handling the
assembly of this series.)
The series, however, needs proper review and tidying up.
Specifically,
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