Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-08-01 Thread Elnikety, Eslam
> On 1. Aug 2019, at 18:27, Ben Cotton wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:27 AM Elnikety, Eslam wrote: >> >> But t3 is not Xen. >> > That's a good reason to not use it. :-) I picked it to be a small, > cheap instance that would represent a potential use case. Is the t2 > family Xen? Or the

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-08-01 Thread Ben Cotton
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:27 AM Elnikety, Eslam wrote: > > But t3 is not Xen. > That's a good reason to not use it. :-) I picked it to be a small, cheap instance that would represent a potential use case. Is the t2 family Xen? Or the m5? I think it makes sense to write the requirement as "the laste

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-08-01 Thread Elnikety, Eslam
> On 29. Jul 2019, at 20:58, Ben Cotton wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:16 PM Adam Williamson > wrote: >> >> OK, so, to move forward with this (and looping in cloud list): does >> someone want to propose a set (ideally small - 2 would be great, one >> Xen and one non-Xen, if we can cover

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-30 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 7:16 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > OK, so, to move forward with this (and looping in cloud list): does > someone want to propose a set (ideally small - 2 would be great, one > Xen and one non-Xen, if we can cover most common usages that way!) of > EC2 instance types we shou

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 14:19 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 21:43 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > On Mon, 2019-07-08 at 09:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > It's worth noting that at least part of the justification for the > > > > criterion in the first place was tha

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-23 Thread Lars Kurth
> On 12 Jul 2019, at 13:24, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 5:50 AM David Woodhouse wrote: >> >> >>> IIRC, what we have right now is a somewhat vague setup where we just >>> have 'local', 'ec2' and 'openstack' columns. The instructions for >>> "Amazon Web Services" just say

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-13 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 5:50 AM David Woodhouse wrote: > > On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 14:19 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Yeah, that's where I was going to go next (there has already been a > > thread about this this morning). If what we care about is that Fedora > > boots on EC2, that's what we sh

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-13 Thread Peter Robinson
> On Mon, 2019-07-08 at 09:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > It's worth noting that at least part of the justification for the > > criterion in the first place was that Amazon was using Xen for EC2, but > > that is no longer the case, most if not all EC2 instance types no > > longer use Xen. > >

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-11 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 14:19 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Yeah, that's where I was going to go next (there has already been a > thread about this this morning). If what we care about is that Fedora > boots on EC2, that's what we should have in the criteria, and what we > should test. While tryin

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 21:43 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Mon, 2019-07-08 at 09:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > It's worth noting that at least part of the justification for the > > > criterion in the first place was that Amazon was using Xen for EC2, but > > > that is no longer the ca

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-11 Thread David Woodhouse
On Mon, 2019-07-08 at 09:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > It's worth noting that at least part of the justification for the > criterion in the first place was that Amazon was using Xen for EC2, but > that is no longer the case, most if not all EC2 instance types no > longer use Xen. I don't know

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-11 Thread marma...@invisiblethingslab.com
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 10:58:03AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 09:57 -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: > > On 7/8/19 11:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Tue, 2019-05-21 at 11:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > > > "The release must boot successfully as Xen DomU

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 09:57 -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: > On 7/8/19 11:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2019-05-21 at 11:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > > "The release must boot successfully as Xen DomU with releases > > > > > > > providing > > > > > > > a functional, suppor

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-11 Thread Doug Goldstein
On 7/8/19 11:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2019-05-21 at 11:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: "The release must boot successfully as Xen DomU with releases providing a functional, supported Xen Dom0 and widely used cloud providers utilizing Xen." and change the 'milestone' for the test

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-09 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 6:12 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2019-05-21 at 11:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > "The release must boot successfully as Xen DomU with releases > providing > > > > > > a functional, supported Xen Dom0 and widely used cloud providers > > > > > > utilizin

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-08 Thread Geoffrey Marr
I am in favor of removing the Xen blocking criteria as it has not received the testing it needs and has been a source of conflict for several releases in the past. Geoff Marr IRC: coremodule On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 10:12 AM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2019-05-21 at 11:14 -0700, Adam Willia

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-07-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2019-05-21 at 11:14 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > "The release must boot successfully as Xen DomU with releases > > > > > providing > > > > > a functional, supported Xen Dom0 and widely used cloud providers > > > > > utilizing Xen." > > > > > > > > > > and change the 'milestone'

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-05-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2019-05-13 at 16:29 -0600, Lars Kurth wrote: > Hi all, > > I am going to step in here with my hat as Xen Project community > manager. We had a discussion about this issue as part of last week's > community call. I CC'ed a number of stake-holders, which probably > should have been on the th

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-05-21 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 7:45 PM Lars Kurth wrote: > @Adam and Fedora Testing & QA: > any views on my proposal? > Regards > Lars > Hi Lars, thanks for your reply. Adam was on a long vacation and he's probably the most qualified person to reply to you, sorry for not telling you sooner. Adam is now

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-05-20 Thread Lars Kurth
@Adam and Fedora Testing & QA: any views on my proposal? Regards Lars > On 13 May 2019, at 16:29, Lars Kurth wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am going to step in here with my hat as Xen Project community > manager. We had a discussion about this issue as part of last week's > community call. I CC'ed a

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-05-14 Thread M A Young
On Tue, 14 May 2019, Steven Haigh wrote: > The final fix would be figuring out why pygrub currently boots the *second* > entry in the resulting grub.cfg - unlike how F29 worked. This may be either a > fix on the grub2-mkconfig or pygrub side - I'm not quite sure yet. This would > likely restore fu

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-05-14 Thread Steven Haigh
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 11:50 PM, Lars Kurth wrote: Apologies, I mixed up some references Lars ... [A2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1264103 [B1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1703700 Bug B1 here was lodged by myself. There is also a post to xen-devel titled

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-05-14 Thread Lars Kurth
Apologies, I mixed up some references Lars > On 13 May 2019, at 16:29, Lars Kurth wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am going to step in here with my hat as Xen Project community > manager. We had a discussion about this issue as part of last week's > community call. I CC'ed a number of stake-holders, wh

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-05-13 Thread Lars Kurth
Hi all, I am going to step in here with my hat as Xen Project community manager. We had a discussion about this issue as part of last week's community call. I CC'ed a number of stake-holders, which probably should have been on the thread such as ITL (which builds QubesOS on top of Fedora) and Mich

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-04-29 Thread Daniel Kiper
I have not heard that Peter moved to the Oracle ;-))), so, changing his address back to RedHat one. And dropping Fedora testing mailing list address because I do not have permissions to send to it... On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:51:47AM +0200, Daniel Kiper wrote: > Sorry for top posting... > > FYI,

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-04-29 Thread Daniel Kiper
Sorry for top posting... FYI, I am on vacation right now. I will be back next week. So, if it is not urgent I will explain all the stuff and update relevant bug at the beginning of next week. Sorry for delay. Daniel On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 12:44:37PM +1000, Steven Haigh wrote: > (and sending to

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-04-27 Thread Steven Haigh
(and sending to the list this time due to Geary being rather featureless mail client) As one of those being caught by regressions upgrading F29 to F30 under Xen DomU's, I think this is a bad idea. It shows that it wasn't tested, because it doesn't work. To me, this exposes weaknesses in the

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-04-26 Thread Geoffrey Marr
Since F24, I haven't seen or heard of anyone who uses Xen over KVM anywhere other than this thread... I'm +1 for making this test an "Optional" one. Geoff Marr IRC: coremodule On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:33 AM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2017-07-06 at 13:19 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-04-26 Thread Sumantro Mukherjee
Yup +1 from my side too. Xen is hardly tested since a lot of time. On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:07 PM Geoffrey Marr wrote: > Since F24, I haven't seen or heard of anyone who uses Xen over KVM > anywhere other than this thread... I'm +1 for making this test an > "Optional" one. > > Geoff Marr > IRC

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-04-26 Thread Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:22:13PM +0530, Sumantro Mukherjee wrote: > Yup +1 from my side too. Xen is hardly tested since a lot of time. Hi! And that is thanks to one of the GRUB2 bugs that needs some love from Peter Jones. As without that bug being fixed - it is very difficult to test it - as y

Re: [Xen-devel] Criteria / validation proposal: drop Xen

2019-04-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2017-07-06 at 13:19 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2017-07-06 at 15:59 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote: > > > > I would prefer for it to remain as it is. > > > > > > This is only practical if it's going to be tested, and tested regularly > > > - not *only* on the final release