Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn

2018-04-27 Thread Julien Grall
Hi Ian, On 27/04/18 16:34, Ian Jackson wrote: Julien Grall writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn"): I guess I'm being quite selfish here. I'm usually the release technician. Doing release preparation at the last minute

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn

2018-04-27 Thread Lars Kurth
On 27/04/2018, 16:29, "Julien Grall" wrote: On 27/04/18 15:32, Ian Jackson wrote: > George Dunlap writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn"): >> How would you apply this directive to the particu

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn

2018-04-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Julien Grall writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn"): > While I understand this was not ideal, I still think it was the best > solution we had at that time. I would be interested to know what you > would have chosen with t

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn

2018-04-27 Thread Julien Grall
On 27/04/18 15:32, Ian Jackson wrote: George Dunlap writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn"): How would you apply this directive to the particular situation we found ourselves in this time? As a reminder: * Around 3 December, we di

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn

2018-04-27 Thread Juergen Gross
On 27/04/18 16:32, Ian Jackson wrote: > George Dunlap writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] > docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn"): >> How would you apply this directive to the particular situation we >> found ourselves in this time? >> >> As a

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn

2018-04-27 Thread Ian Jackson
George Dunlap writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn"): > How would you apply this directive to the particular situation we > found ourselves in this time? > > As a reminder: > > * Around 3 December, we didn't thi

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn

2017-12-13 Thread George Dunlap
On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > The 4.10 release preparation was significantly more hairy than ideal. > (We seem to have a good overall outcome despite, rather than because > of, our approach.) > > This is the second time (at least) that we have come close to failure > by co

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn

2017-12-13 Thread Ian Jackson
Julien Grall writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn"): > That's why testing with XSAs was requested on the security-ml before > hand. However, this was mistakenly done on rc7 rather than rc8. If the proposed release had been c

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn

2017-12-13 Thread Julien Grall
Hi Ian, On 13/12/17 12:02, Ian Jackson wrote: The 4.10 release preparation was significantly more hairy than ideal. (We seem to have a good overall outcome despite, rather than because of, our approach.) This is the second time (at least) that we have come close to failure by committing to a re

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn

2017-12-13 Thread Andrew Cooper
On 13/12/17 12:02, Ian Jackson wrote: > The 4.10 release preparation was significantly more hairy than ideal. > (We seem to have a good overall outcome despite, rather than because > of, our approach.) > > This is the second time (at least) that we have come close to failure > by committing to a re

Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn

2017-12-13 Thread Juergen Gross
On 13/12/17 13:02, Ian Jackson wrote: > The 4.10 release preparation was significantly more hairy than ideal. > (We seem to have a good overall outcome despite, rather than because > of, our approach.) > > This is the second time (at least) that we have come close to failure > by committing to a r

[Xen-devel] [PATCH] docs/process/xen-release-management: Lesson to learn

2017-12-13 Thread Ian Jackson
The 4.10 release preparation was significantly more hairy than ideal. (We seem to have a good overall outcome despite, rather than because of, our approach.) This is the second time (at least) that we have come close to failure by committing to a release date before the exact code to be released i