Re: [Xen-devel] Notes from Xen BoF at Debconf15

2015-10-05 Thread Ian Campbell
On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 10:24 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > grub-xen > > > Needs much better docs. > > ACTION: I agreed to move the text of my blog post somewhere more > obvious. I did this on the last doc day: http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/PvGrub2 Ian. ___

Re: [Xen-devel] Notes from Xen BoF at Debconf15

2015-09-17 Thread George Dunlap
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Doug Goldstein wrote: >> Stubdomains >> === >> >> Hard to do in a packaging environment (is really its own partial >> architecture). Rump kernels are no different in this regard. >> >> No clever ideas were put forward. > > Honestly what about moving these mo

Re: [Xen-devel] Notes from Xen BoF at Debconf15

2015-09-16 Thread Ian Campbell
On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 10:24 +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: > Embedding in xen.git > > > We are much better about providing ways to use system-supplied > components these days (since 4.4) and Debian uses them. > > Waldi noted that iPXE did not have such an option. Since that iPXE

Re: [Xen-devel] Notes from Xen BoF at Debconf15

2015-09-08 Thread Ian Campbell
On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 09:49 -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: > > Midlevel library stability > > == > > > > libxenlight is only API not ABI stable. This is a pain in particular > > for libvirt which needs binNMU for new Xen package. > > > > We would like to eventually offer ABI

Re: [Xen-devel] Notes from Xen BoF at Debconf15

2015-09-08 Thread Doug Goldstein
On 9/8/15 5:55 AM, Jan Beulich wrote: >>>> On 08.09.15 at 12:49, wrote: >> Jan Beulich writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] Notes from Xen BoF at Debconf15"): >>> Right - 4.4.3 already was released with just one RC, and indeed I >>> meant to stay with that

Re: [Xen-devel] Notes from Xen BoF at Debconf15

2015-09-08 Thread Doug Goldstein
On 9/8/15 4:24 AM, Ian Campbell wrote: > Xen upstream BoF > > > We had a discussion around Xen and packaging at Debian's annual developer > conference (Debconf) a few weeks back: > https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/279/xen-upstream-bof/ While I'm not a Debian guy and w

Re: [Xen-devel] Notes from Xen BoF at Debconf15

2015-09-08 Thread Jan Beulich
>>> On 08.09.15 at 12:49, wrote: > Jan Beulich writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] Notes from Xen BoF at Debconf15"): >> Right - 4.4.3 already was released with just one RC, and indeed I >> meant to stay with that model considering the little (if any) feedback >> we g

Re: [Xen-devel] Notes from Xen BoF at Debconf15

2015-09-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Jan Beulich writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] Notes from Xen BoF at Debconf15"): > Right - 4.4.3 already was released with just one RC, and indeed I > meant to stay with that model considering the little (if any) feedback > we get on these RCs. I personally could live without d

Re: [Xen-devel] Notes from Xen BoF at Debconf15

2015-09-08 Thread Jan Beulich
>>> On 08.09.15 at 12:15, wrote: > On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 03:47 -0600, Jan Beulich wrote: >> > > > On 08.09.15 at 11:24, wrote: >> > Release cycle >> > = >> > >> > Waldi commented that the stable release cycle was too long. Would like >> > to see a release after any large security upd

Re: [Xen-devel] Notes from Xen BoF at Debconf15

2015-09-08 Thread Ian Campbell
On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 03:47 -0600, Jan Beulich wrote: > > > > On 08.09.15 at 11:24, wrote: > > Release cycle > > = > > > > Waldi commented that the stable release cycle was too long. Would like > > to see a release after any large security update. > > > > We asked if the RCs for stab

Re: [Xen-devel] Notes from Xen BoF at Debconf15

2015-09-08 Thread Lars Kurth
> On 8 Sep 2015, at 10:47, Jan Beulich wrote: > On 08.09.15 at 11:24, wrote: >> Release cycle >> = >> >> Waldi commented that the stable release cycle was too long. Would like >> to see a release after any large security update. >> >> We asked if the RCs for stable releases w

Re: [Xen-devel] Notes from Xen BoF at Debconf15

2015-09-08 Thread Jan Beulich
>>> On 08.09.15 at 11:24, wrote: > Release cycle > = > > Waldi commented that the stable release cycle was too long. Would like > to see a release after any large security update. > > We asked if the RCs for stable releases were valuable, the answer was > "not so much". > > Waldi wo

[Xen-devel] Notes from Xen BoF at Debconf15

2015-09-08 Thread Ian Campbell
Xen upstream BoF We had a discussion around Xen and packaging at Debian's annual developer conference (Debconf) a few weeks back: https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/279/xen-upstream-bof/ These are my notes, I think there is probably stuff of interest to most distro peop