[WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Daniel Goldman
Can I use customaction to run unzip on an installed zip file? If yes, could someone please give an example syntax? If yes, is there a way to show a "progress meter" during unzipping? Can I delete the zip file after installation? Or can customaction unzip from the cdrom? Thanks, Daniel Goldman

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Derek Cicerone
This type of question normally indicates something fishy - why would you want to unzip a zip file when you can associate cabinet files with an msi rather easily? It's much better to keep files under MSI control because then they will be patchable - otherwise you'll expose customers to a security t

[WiX-users] IIS - setting up folder structure

2006-06-30 Thread Nordvik, Christer
Title: IIS - setting up folder structure Hi. I'm struggling a bit with Wix and the folder stucture it generates in the IIS. I'd like to have the following structure: Default Web Site ---MyWebService --v2.0.0 -Webservice.asmx -bin MyLogic.dll This

[WiX-users] Dll routines not called on uninstallation

2006-06-30 Thread Akshay Bhargava, Noida
      Hi All, I am using Wix installer to create an msi. I have an exe which I want to launch on Installation and kill on uninstallation. For this I have written a dll whose routines I call from wix code .both launching and killing of exe work fine on Win Xp SP 2 and Win 2k but on WIN

[WiX-users] Installing COM components

2006-06-30 Thread Torsten Rudnick
Is there any better way of installing COM components instead of using tallow.exe and the related WiX fragment from the output? I am wrinting at a nant script at the moment for building the setup. Now I want insert the installation of my COM components. The problem is that the output from tallow

[WiX-users] running only portions MSI installation

2006-06-30 Thread Ayvaz, James
Hi folks,     I have a wix msi that includes custom configuration dialogs and uses custom actions to configure the application during my installation.  After the program is installed is there a way to re-run only the custom portions of the installation wizard that so that I can reuse the co

Re: [WiX-users] xcopy deployment?

2006-06-30 Thread Dave Williamson
Daniel, xcopy deployment is just that ... literally copying the files to the destination drive and that is all that is required. However, the ability to not depend on anything else is a function of the application's design. Given the example you gave you could create a batch file on your CD th

Re: [WiX-users] Selecting features to show in feature tree

2006-06-30 Thread Rob Mensching
Yes, the Condition element is allowed under a Feature. Check out the WiX.chm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Tasanasanta Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:00 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Selec

Re: [WiX-users] IIS - setting up folder structure

2006-06-30 Thread Rob Mensching
The WebVirtualDir/@Alias is a bit different. You can specify the path you want in there. In your example below, you are creating two different WebVirtualDirs. I don't think that's what you want. Instead just use the first WebVirtualDir and do this:   Not completely intuitive... but i

Re: [WiX-users] running only portions MSI installation

2006-06-30 Thread Rob Mensching
You can't rerun *only* the CustomAction without Conditionalizing practically everything in the sequence tables. I wouldn't recommend doing that. Instead, I'd suggest just using Maintenance Mode UI to allow the user to change the values and set the REINSTALLMODE to something very simple so the rest

Re: [WiX-users] Installing COM components

2006-06-30 Thread Bill Arnette
Tallow is intended to be used one time to aid in the initial creation of MSI components for the COM components you need to install. It is not intended to be used in an automated build. The idea is to run Tallow to harvest the components, including registry entries, and then hand-edit them to ad

Re: [WiX-users] Installing COM components

2006-06-30 Thread Bill Arnette
Better yet. If you are targeting Windows XP and up and your COM component(s) is not shared among different applications, don't register anything and make your application an "isolated application". See http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/sbscs/setup/isolated_applications_an d_side_by_side_ass

Re: [WiX-users] Dll routines not called on uninstallation

2006-06-30 Thread Bob Arnson
Akshay Bhargava, Noida wrote: I am using Wix installer to create an msi. I have an exe which I want to launch on Installation and kill on uninstallation. For this I have written a dll whose routines I call from wix code .both launching and killing of exe work fine on Win Xp SP 2

[WiX-users] Wix 3, SqlDatabase User/SqlFileSpec/SqlDatabase

2006-06-30 Thread Michael Cline
I am using the WixSqlExtension to build a database. It works great but I have some questions. Is there any way that these items can be conditional? In the Dialog I have checkboxes to allow the user to either enter credentials or not. If they don't enter credentials I don't want to pass the

Re: [WiX-users] Wix 3, SqlDatabase User/SqlFileSpec/SqlDatabase

2006-06-30 Thread Rob Mensching
Condition the Component condtainting the SqlDatabase. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Cline Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 8:23 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Wix 3, SqlDatabase User/SqlFileSpec/SqlDatabas

Re: [WiX-users] Creating MSMQ Queues on installation

2006-06-30 Thread Fredrik Grohn
Yeah, there already is a way to install MSMQ queues in WiX, but current release still has serious bug that I made a fix for a while back. The changes where committed yesterday so they should be in the next drop I hope. Example: http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2005/02/pubca";> ...

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Daniel Goldman
I don't know what you mean by "fishy". The wix package itself is distributed by zip, so zip can't be that bad. I can deal with patches by just sending a new full distribution, or just sending the file(s) that need replacing. When you say "associate cabinet files with an msi rather easily", are you

[WiX-users] UI Issue with .Net Framework Detection

2006-06-30 Thread Chuck
Hi all! I hope someone out there can give me a little advise.  I'm building an install using WIX that requires the .Net Framework version 2.0 or higher.  I've worked through the entries in the archive to get the .Net detection working...see this posting for that info. So here is the issue th

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Derek Cicerone
MSI is already built up to handle the scenarios below. You'll find that creating a composite solution of an MSI-based install coupled with unzipping installed file will lead to a poor customer experience in some common scenarios like uninstall, upgrade, patching, and repair. Customers expect an M

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Rob Mensching
This is a common misconception about the WiX package that I figured I should set straight. The .zip version of the WiX toolset is provided for developers who want to take the tools and check them into their source control system (a process I highly encourage). The .zip file provides no mechanism

Re: [WiX-users] xcopy deployment?

2006-06-30 Thread Daniel Goldman
I have a better idea about xcopy deployment now. Can xcopy deployment (or unzipping a file) be built into wix? Is there a way to use customaction for this? The nature of my .NET applications (described below under "Background") make the extra complexity for programming wix very burdensome. I don't

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Daniel Goldman
I appreciate your responding, but it doesn't answer my simple question. Is it possible to use customaction (or some other wix mechanism) to run unzip on an installed zip file? I can figure out if it will lead to a "poor customer experience". I'm just trying to figure out what wix does (and does no

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Daniel Goldman
Hi Rob, I was intending no criticism of wix. I think wix is great. And I don't think I had any misconceptions. I read the previous postings where zipping wix was discussed. But the fact is that wix IS distributed by a zip file. It's fine with me. You have valid reasons for doing so. As I explain

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Foster, Richard - PAL
Daniel, I think what the other responders have tried to do is suggest that for your scenario, WiX may not be appropriate. Yes, Microsoft Installer (and therefore WiX) can do what you want (and more), *but* the unzip functionality you have requested is not built in, so you would have to create and

Re: [WiX-users] xcopy deployment?

2006-06-30 Thread Josh Einstein
It sounds like Wix is not really what you want. Just make your own EXE that has a splash screen and unzips the file. WIX is for developing professional-grade installers that have the ability to version files, resilient rollback, etc. While you CAN do what you want to do by shelling out to an unzip

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Bill Arnette
To answer your basic question, yes, you could. I don't think you can just unzip a .zip file from a custom action because I don't think there is a public unzip API in Windows [1]. You would have to include an unzip utility in your package that got installed before the custom action ran. Howev

[WiX-users] xcopy deployment?

2006-06-30 Thread DE�K JAHN, G�bor
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:00:53 -0700, Daniel Goldman wrote: Daniel, WiX (.msi, Windows Installer, that is) already has this ".zip feature" built-in, it just uses another compression method (if at all, I never actually checked) and calls them .cab files instead of .zip ones. These cabinet files c

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Bill Arnette
But, that said... There is no reason you couldn't use WiX in an automated build like in your situation. You would have to have some sort of script that auto-generated a fragment (.wxs) for your data sets that are referenced from a master WXS file. Then you just use light to link in the correct d

[WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread DE�K JAHN, G�bor
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:34:55 -0700, Daniel Goldman wrote: Daniel, > Is it possible to use customaction (or some other wix > mechanism) to run unzip on a zip file from the install cd? > And is there any kind of progress meter possible? The custom action can call an external executable (including

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Rob Mensching
To be clear, WiX is distributed several ways. For the end-user (non-developer or developer), the WiX toolset is included in .MSI files and installed/upgraded/uninstalled. For the developer's build process, the WiX toolset is provided as a .zip file. My point previously was that everything you'

[WiX-users] Conditional feature installation problem

2006-06-30 Thread erdi
This problem was mentioned few days ago in this list, but the solution presented doesn't work for me. I need to get user decision about what database type (oracle or mysql) is he going to use with my program. So I made a dialog with radio buttons just like in point 8.7 of tutorial at http://www

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Daniel Goldman
Hi Richard, Yes, I'm trying to figure out whether my scenario is appropriate for wix before I invest a lot of time learning all the details. As the tutorial says, there is a "steep learning curve". I appreciate your advice. I was not assuming that the unzip capability was built into wix. My scena

Re: [WiX-users] UI Issue with .Net Framework Detection

2006-06-30 Thread Bob Arnson
Chuck wrote: So here is the issue that I'm running into...as soon as I specify an InstallUISequence...I'm trying to implement the FeatureTree UI using the WixUI_FeatureTree.wxs...the .Net detection fails to display its message box and allows the installer to continue installation? Grab

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Daniel Goldman
Hi Bill, Yes, I was planning to include the unzip binary, and install unzip first (or run from cd if possible). Or use a self-extracting exe, as you suggest. Do you happen to have an example of this in practice? Or do I just need to play around with customaction? I was hoping someone else had alr

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Bob Arnson
Daniel Goldman wrote: > Please don't try to sell me on something I don't need. Just please answer my > Q. > You might want to consider that you're getting quite a bit of free, friendly advice here. What you're proposing isn't a good use of Windows Installer. If you don't want to "play by the

Re: [WiX-users] Conditional feature installation problem

2006-06-30 Thread Bob Arnson
erdi wrote: > The situation is oposite when I declare the DATABASECHOICE property this > way: > ORACLE, > then the OracleSupport feature is installed when picked in radio button > group and MySqlSupport isn't installed even if picked. > Generate a verbose log and check out the feature states d

[WiX-users] wix documentation suggestions

2006-06-30 Thread Daniel Goldman
Two suggestions about wix documentation from a wix newbie: The schema pages don't print cleanly. The text is cut off at the right (IE and NN). I even tried printing a selection, did not work. Makes it hard for newbie to learn. The documentation has a lot of great detail, but seems kind of short o

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Daniel Goldman
Hi Rob, I'm glad to hear I can create a series of CustomActions to unzip a file during install. Lets me move forward. I appreciate the advice about "better". You should know. But ultimately I have to make that decision. It's simple for me to implement the unzip scenario. I know this isn't what wi

Re: [WiX-users] wix documentation suggestions

2006-06-30 Thread Daniel Goldman
Did the schema documentation layout changed? I have a lot of old schema documentation that printed fine. Looked a lot simpler at top or right. The one that cut off to right today was "customaction", which I was trying to print out and understand better. Daniel Daniel Goldman wrote: > Two sugges

[WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread DE�K JAHN, G�bor
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:42:36 -0700, Daniel Goldman wrote: Daniel, > implement the unzip scenario. I know this isn't what wix was > designed to do, It's not a WiX problem per se, it's a Windows Installer one. The underlying functionality was created to work differently than your plan would sugge

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Justin Rockwood
Daniel, here are some things you may want to consider: * How are you going to service the files that you unzip? * How are you going to support uninstall? * How are you going to support rollback during an install or uninstall? I fully appreciate that different software packages may have different

Re: [WiX-users] Conditional feature installation problem

2006-06-30 Thread Liu Qian
Hi, Erdi: I think you should add a custom action after clicking "Next" button of radio button window to "CostFinalize". Just like this: *1* 1 And I suggest you set "DATABASECHOICE" property default to "NULL" or something you like, but don't set it to "MySQL" or "ORACLE". Becuase whe

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Daniel Goldman
Hi Bob, Maybe what I'm proposing is not a good use. But maybe you don't understand the context of the unique kind of software family I'm trying to install. How could you understand? Sometimes there are good solutions that are different from what the designer of a tool might have planned. Sometime

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Daniel Goldman
Hi Justin, Thanks for the advice. I admit I'm a newbie related to installing windows software. Related to servicing the files, I was planning to retain a copy of the installation cd for each cd that I send out (each one is usually different), to troubleshoot any problems. If a problem arises, I'l

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread John Vottero
> Maybe what I'm proposing is not a good use. But maybe you > don't understand the context of the unique kind of software > family I'm trying to install. How could you understand? > > Sometimes there are good solutions that are different from > what the designer of a tool might have planned. Somet

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Bob Arnson
Daniel Goldman wrote: > I appreciate the free, friendly advice, but I had a hard > time getting a simple answer. The response could have been > "Yes, here's how to do it, but I don't recommend". > Because it's a bad idea. > You mentioned self-extracting .exe tools. Are you referring to > just a

Re: [WiX-users] customaction runs unzip?

2006-06-30 Thread Daniel Goldman
Thanks. John Vottero wrote: >>Maybe what I'm proposing is not a good use. But maybe you >>don't understand the context of the unique kind of software >>family I'm trying to install. How could you understand? >> >>Sometimes there are good solutions that are different from >>what the designer of a