Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database.

2011-02-14 Thread Rune Moberg
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Christopher Painter wrote: > Well, Evil Genius,  you clearly no more about installs then myself and Rob > Mensching combined so knock yourself. I am not sure where I said I know more about installers? I freely admit to being a n00b at implementing an installer.

Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database.

2011-02-14 Thread Christopher Painter
il Me - Original Message From: David Borneman To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 8:30:59 AM Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database. Too much drama in this group for me. See ya all :) Sent by Android via Nexus O

Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database.

2011-02-14 Thread Christopher Painter
secret or read a really good thread that deserves attention? E-Mail Me - Original Message From: Rob Mensching To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 9:05:13 AM Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database.

Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database.

2011-02-14 Thread Rob Mensching
og > > Have a hot tip, know a secret or read a really good thread that deserves > > attention? E-Mail Me > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message > > From: Rune Moberg > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > > > > Se

Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database.

2011-02-14 Thread Rob Mensching
One thing to be careful with is pointing to things in "any Microsoft platform" and saying "Well, Microsoft created this platform so it must be a good pattern." InstallUtil is not a good thing (for the reasons I pointed to in the SelfReg table documentation) and it still exists for backwards compati

Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database.

2011-02-14 Thread David Borneman
ssion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > > Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 7:44:06 AM > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database. > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Christopher Painter > wrote: >> For #4, you are right, it is simple. I can do it i

Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database.

2011-02-14 Thread Christopher Painter
From: Rune Moberg To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 7:44:06 AM Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Christopher Painter wrote: > For #4, you are right, it is sim

Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database.

2011-02-14 Thread Milagros Moreno Herrera (Intl Vendor)
s Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Christopher Painter wrote: > For #4, you are right, it is simple.  I can do it in one line of XML > in WiX and let MSI handle the details.  For developers I c

Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database.

2011-02-14 Thread Rune Moberg
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Christopher Painter wrote: > For #4, you are right, it is simple.  I can do it in one line of XML in WiX > and > let MSI handle the details.  For developers I can do it in 1 line of .BAT > using > the SC command.    And, no, your InstallUtil code will not be bett

Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database.

2011-02-14 Thread Christopher Painter
al discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 4:01:20 AM Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Christopher Painter wrote: > 1)  Run out of process with no ability to access the MSI handle

Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database.

2011-02-14 Thread Rune Moberg
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Christopher Painter wrote: > 1)  Run out of process with no ability to access the MSI handle to query > tables, > get/set properties and write to the log.   This means they will never be data > driven and are useless to debug when ( not if ) they fail. > > 2)  Tat

Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database.

2011-02-13 Thread Christopher Painter
ployment Engineering Blog Have a hot tip, know a secret or read a really good thread that deserves attention? E-Mail Me - Original Message From: Rune Moberg To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Sent: Sun, February 13, 2011 2:52:12 PM Subject: Re: [WiX-users]

Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database.

2011-02-13 Thread Rob Mensching
All of the things you list are essentially SelfReg. SelfReg was deemed a bad practice for installatin back in the late 1990s. MSI SDK has a list of reasons why: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa371608(VS.85).aspx. It's rather specific to DLLs but the same applies to anything that registers

Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database.

2011-02-13 Thread Rune Moberg
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Rob Mensching wrote: > The Installer class is an anti-pattern in setup. You shouldn't use it for > anything. Could you expand on this? Speaking purely as an end-user, I will make the following observations: 1) Windows services should be able to be installed usin

Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database.

2011-02-13 Thread Rob Mensching
The Installer class is an anti-pattern in setup. You shouldn't use it for anything. On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Rune Moberg wrote: > On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Thai-Hoa Nguyen > wrote: > > A way to solve this, I no longer use Wix / ServiceInstall. I used > InstallUtil.exe instead. T

Re: [WiX-users] WCF server cannot connect to the remote database.

2011-02-07 Thread Rune Moberg
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Thai-Hoa Nguyen wrote: > A way to solve this, I no longer use Wix / ServiceInstall.  I used > InstallUtil.exe instead.  Then the database connection issue goes away. > I'm wondering if there is another way to register the WCF service hosted by > the windows servic