Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-29 Thread Tobias S
Hi, maybe something regarding VS Merge modules vs. VCRedist or in general my dislike of merge modules: - Bad personal (+ colleagues) experience (merge modules in general) - Servicing - German literature stating "Applications should not be based on Mergemodules for the installation of components

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-28 Thread Tobias S
Assumption based on personal experience as we ran at least the last 4 years the VCRedist during InstallUI. We nerver got customer issues regarding a missing VC runtime. This would be expected when they run unattended as there is (was) no abort criteria during InstallExecute when no VCRedist install

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-28 Thread Christopher Painter
d that deserves attention? E-Mail Me --- On Thu, 4/28/11, Wilson, Phil wrote: From: Wilson, Phil Subject: Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset." Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011, 12:14 PM As has been pointed o

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-28 Thread Jeremy Farrell
> From: Tobias S [mailto:tobias.s1...@gmail.com] > > ... > > - Most installs run in UI mode Interesting, where did you get that information from? What's the ratio between UI-mode runs and silent, and how accurate is the estimate believed to be? ---

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-28 Thread Wilson, Phil
situations where installing the redist from the UI sequence will fail because of insufficient privilege. Phil Wilson -Original Message- From: Tobias S [mailto:tobias.s1...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:36 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subje

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-28 Thread Tobias S
Thanks for your feedback. I used the InstallUI sequence to install the VCRedist.exe and did nothing in InstallExecute sequence. So actually my implementation can lead to an installed product without installed VCRedist when user runs in /qn. When writing >> - Most installs run in UI mode, otherwi

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-28 Thread Bob Arnson
On 28-Apr-11 09:52, Tobias S wrote: > - With this implementation the VCRedist installer runs at a point > where the user can run the installation unattended (for bootstrapper > normally waiting until completion necessary - not considering Burn > here as it is in beta) > - Most installs run in UI mo

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-28 Thread Pally Sandher
riginal Message- From: Tobias S [mailto:tobias.s1...@gmail.com] Sent: 28 April 2011 14:53 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions Hi, Yes I know the issues mentioned in MSDN about concurrent installers. But fo

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-28 Thread Tobias S
Hi, Yes I know the issues mentioned in MSDN about concurrent installers. But for the VCRedist.exe there were no issues at our customers site related to this implementation. For OpenOffice I mentioned it as it was the first package where I saw other engineers doing the same approach. I didn't want

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable questions

2011-04-28 Thread Pally Sandher
Yeah if OpenOffice use concurrent installations it must be totally safe http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368010.aspx Stick with using the merge modules and/or a bootstrapper for the vcredist. If you don't need to bootstrap any other pre-reqs the merge modules are the easiest wa

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable

2009-05-28 Thread Koji Ishii
> > > -Original Message- > From: Koji Ishii [mailto:kojii...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 3:36 PM > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable > > Using the bootstrapper worked for me.

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable

2009-05-28 Thread Rahul.Ekbote
installation? Thanks, Rahul. -Original Message- From: Koji Ishii [mailto:kojii...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 3:36 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable Using the bootstrapper worked for me. http

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable

2009-05-28 Thread Koji Ishii
Using the bootstrapper worked for me. http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix3/install_dotnet.htm I use bootstrapper to install VC++ redistributable as well. Note that, even though I mentioned to run setup.exe rather than msi in my document, a lot of users tried to install by double-clicking msi.

Re: [WiX-users] VC++ redistributable

2009-05-28 Thread Kim Gybels
Hi > Is there any other way to install vc++ redistributable file and .net > framework sp1 installer through our .msi installler > You can use the merge modules provided by MS for the vc++ redistributables. Here is what I use for this in WiX: http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi";>