Re: [WiX-users] yep - back to being 100% frustrated

2008-05-16 Thread Mike Dimmick
It's true for simple applications, but those simple applications are just anything that can be written to be statically linked into a single binary. You could do this on Windows if you were prepared to stick to those rules - and you can produce quite powerful applications that way, if you cared to

Re: [WiX-users] yep - back to being 100% frustrated

2008-05-16 Thread Mike Dimmick
Windows Installer was designed to support corporate deployment of applications to shared machines with install-on-demand and roaming profiles, and to support Windows 95 and up. If you understand that, a lot of the features and the ICE error reports make sense. The trouble is that this corporate dep

Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

2008-05-16 Thread Christopher Painter
Sorry, one last post for the night. I noticed that my call to MakeSfxCA.exe is failing with this exception: Searching for custom action entry points in ClassLibrary1.dll Loaded dependent assembly: ExternalAssemblies\Microsoft.Deployment.WindowsIn staller.dll Error: System.IO.FileLoad

Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

2008-05-16 Thread Christopher Painter
Well, unfortunatly that's all the free time I have for tonight. I can see you've got a custom CSPROJ but the targets and tools references are invalid for me. I'm searching through the source,binaries and MSI distribs but don't see what it's looking for. I did manage to build a CA and see

Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

2008-05-16 Thread Christopher Painter
Sorry, one more question. How do you feel about WiX registering a new project type in Visual Studio? A sample C# class that includes the right references and plumbing to build the class and wrap it into a CA package assembly? Jason Ginchereau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:1)

Re: [WiX-users] Installing .NET 3.5 redist?

2008-05-16 Thread Mike Dimmick
It’s an MSI philosophy and it’s a consequence of .NET’s installer. You cannot nest MSI installs. That’s a property of Windows Installer. The Framework’s installer is itself an MSI. .NET has to ship one component, Fusion.dll for managing the GAC, that Windows Installer depends on as of Window

Re: [WiX-users] questions about 64 bit installs

2008-05-16 Thread Mike Dimmick
You don't need to worry about Intel64. You don't have one. Neither do your customers. Intel64 refers to the Itanium processor family, not Core or Xeon processors, which come under x64. It's badly named but for historical reasons - Intel produced Itanium processors, referred to as IA-64 for Intel Ar

Re: [WiX-users] Building localized versions of an installer

2008-05-16 Thread Rob Mensching
Okay, there is clearly something fundamentally busted. Can you open a bug with as much information as possible? There is a way through this process (I know plenty of people are successfully using it) but you have obviously found a case that doesn't work. From: Fairweather, James [mailto:[EMAI

Re: [WiX-users] Registering a dll in Vista

2008-05-16 Thread Rob Mensching
0. Yeah, capturing SelfReg has turned out to be a pretty tricky process. There are a lot of crazy SelfReg routines out there. 1. There isn't currently an owner working on heat.exe so the development stalled out when Derek moved on. That makes it a real hit or miss tool. 2. Please do open

Re: [WiX-users] WiX v3 and 64-bit version of DIFXAPP.DLL

2008-05-16 Thread Rob Mensching
And a bug is open to add x64 support... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Arnson Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 09:18 To: Demyn Plantenberg Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX v3 and 64-bit version of DIFXAPP.DLL Demyn Plantenberg wrote: I

[WiX-users] Heat question

2008-05-16 Thread Eva, Mark E (ESL Lab-Boise)
I am a new user of Heat.exe. I would like to exclude a directory or files with specific extensions from Heat. An example would be, exclude directory .svn from Heat selection. An example of a file extension .log. Is it possible to do this from the commandline or is this being considered as a

Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

2008-05-16 Thread Jason Ginchereau
1) Yes, full support for the new functionality added in MSI 4.5 is near the top of my list of things to work on in DTF. I have briefly looked at the embedded external-UI feature, and I don't forsee any unusual technical challenges to enabling embedded external-UI in managed code. 2)

Re: [WiX-users] Generate MSI during install

2008-05-16 Thread Matthew Sheets
To expand on some of the earlier suggestions, I would offer the following: * As suggested earlier, create two WiX projects--one for the server and one for the client. * Create the client so that all options (or at least a many as possible) will be used as properties. To get the client WiX proje

Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

2008-05-16 Thread Christopher Painter
I have a few other questions for you if you don't mind. 1) Will DTF have support for authoring MSI 4.5 style Embedded External UI handlers? 2) The Sample C# custom action references a Session.Property[ string Property ] but when I add the reference and using statement I get an error

Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

2008-05-16 Thread Jason Ginchereau
Looks like Errors.resources.resources got ignored by by the zip which is supposed to pickup all the sources, because of the .resources file extension. I'll fix it for the next build. Meanwhile you can create that file by running resgen.exe on Errors.txt. (I should probably make that happen duri

Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

2008-05-16 Thread Jason Ginchereau
Yes, sorry it looks like I accidentally omitted MakeSfxCA.exe from the binaries zip and the MSI. I'll get it in for next week's build. Meanwhile you should be able to build it easily from the sources. -Jason- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Painter Se

Re: [WiX-users] Exclusive Installation of Features

2008-05-16 Thread Dale Quigg
> Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:22:57 -0700 > From: "Tanikella, Rajanikanth (SCR US)" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [WiX-users] Exclusive Installation of Features > > In the 'yep - back to being 100% frustrated' thread, someone mentioned > it is impossible to install two features exclusively f

Re: [WiX-users] DTF in WiX

2008-05-16 Thread Christopher Painter
I also pulled the sources but I can't get the Compression.Cab project in the DTF solution to build. It's missing the file Errors.resources.resources file. If I exclude it from the project it seems to build fine though. Christopher Painter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I'm was reading DTF.chm a

[WiX-users] DTF in WiX

2008-05-16 Thread Christopher Painter
I'm was reading DTF.chm and it looks really fabulous. I want to play with it right now but I don't see MakeSfxCA.exe. Am I missing something? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. M

Re: [WiX-users] Temporary files in WiX?

2008-05-16 Thread Christopher Painter
A repair is really just another (re)install. You could extract them again. If you call installed files, it can sometimes get tricky if you need to reference them late during the uninstall... the files could be gone by the time you need them.This scenario, the desire to hide/not persist th

[WiX-users] XmlConfig setting I should use to replace just the address attribute value in the following parts of an app.config using a public property defined value?

2008-05-16 Thread Robert O'Brien
Any tips on the XmlConfig setting I should use to replace just the address attribute value in the following parts of an app.config using a public property defined value? I'm thinking something like the following based on the samples provided for using XmlConfig but am concernted that I'm trying

Re: [WiX-users] Exclusive Installation of Features

2008-05-16 Thread Scott Sam
If you use the custom dialog you should be able to pick and choose which features get installed. Or use the feature tree template. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tanikella, Rajanikanth (SCR US) Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 12:23 PM To: wix-u

Re: [WiX-users] questions about 64 bit installs

2008-05-16 Thread Scott Sam
That's what I was afraid of. Thanks for the info. The information contained in this email is privileged and confidential and is intended solely for the addressee(s). If you are not the intended recipient, please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete this email f

Re: [WiX-users] Temporary files in WiX?

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Arnson
Neil Enns wrote: Thanks for the details, Rob. It sounds like from you write below that the security issue exists regardless of whether the files are temporary, correct? Any time you have an installer that writes files to a disk, then executes them via a deferred custom action, the vulnerabilit

Re: [WiX-users] Temporary files in WiX?

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Arnson
Neil Enns wrote: That's why we're bringing the files along ourselves for the ride J Now if only .net 3.5 was so kind... Sigh. Yeah, well, DevDiv, whatcha gonna do? -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/ - This SF.net ema

Re: [WiX-users] Temporary files in WiX?

2008-05-16 Thread Neil Enns
That's why we're bringing the files along ourselves for the ride :) Now if only .net 3.5 was so kind... Sigh. Neil From: Bob Arnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May-16-08 9:57 AM To: Neil Enns Cc: Rob Mensching; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Temporary files in WiX?

Re: [WiX-users] Temporary files in WiX?

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Arnson
Neil Enns wrote: Ah. So let's make sure we're clear, there's a difference between asking for "can I write files during install to a temporary location" vs. "can I clean up some files I've installed to program files after install" J Yep. MSI doesn't have the concept of transient files, oth

Re: [WiX-users] Temporary files in WiX?

2008-05-16 Thread Neil Enns
Ah. So let's make sure we're clear, there's a difference between asking for "can I write files during install to a temporary location" vs. "can I clean up some files I've installed to program files after install" :) Good point on the repair, I guess we'll leave the files around. Neil From: Bob

Re: [WiX-users] questions about 64 bit installs

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Arnson
Scott Sam wrote: 1.Is it possible to have one installer, that recognizes whether the OS is 64 bit or not. Then installs either the 64 bit or the 32 bit version of our software accordingly? Or do we have to have two separate installers, one to install the 32 bit version, and another

Re: [WiX-users] WiX under Mono

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Arnson
Ruslan Hristov wrote: > Is it possible to run WiX under Mono (and Linux)? I found a blog from > 2004 that claimed it was possible, but I tried running and then > compiling the latest version but there seems to be quite a few issues. > You'd need a bleeding-edge Mono: WiX now requires .NET 2

Re: [WiX-users] Uninstalling a Feature where the Level condition has changed since installation

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Arnson
John Lalande wrote: > Our product contains a feature to integrate with Lotus Notes. The > feature's Level is set to 0 (so that it is not selectable), and > conditionally set to 1 if Lotus Notes is installed. If later, Notes > is uninstalled, then our product won't uninstall the Notes integrati

Re: [WiX-users] problem with repair in v2

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Arnson
Kunal Desai wrote: I have a website that serves msi packagesat the point of downloading the file if I select run instead of save I can install the file successfully...but if I do it again and select the repair button for the same package the repair fails giving a network error...any idea

Re: [WiX-users] WiX v3 and 64-bit version of DIFXAPP.DLL

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Arnson
Demyn Plantenberg wrote: Is something missing, or is WiX 3 not yet ready for x64 drivers? It currently supports only x86. -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challe

Re: [WiX-users] wixunit?

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Arnson
Richard wrote: > - start/reset the VMware guest machine image > - launch the built install in the VMWare image > - monitor the VMware image for failures > - report back via email to the developers any failures > Me too, in a previous life. The challenge is to test your p

Re: [WiX-users] Installshield decompiling

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Arnson
Jody Belka wrote: > Ah, doh! Should have thought about that. Orca had completely slipped my > mind for some reason. That let dark get further. Complained about some > stuff with the CustomAction table, but removing the table completely let > it continue, and for what I'm after that's fine. > Yo

Re: [WiX-users] Running an action *after* rebooting

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Arnson
Richard Amos wrote: > I'd like to launch a configuration utility *after* a ScheduleReboot, > but, as the ScheduleReboot doesn't have an ID, how to I tell the > custom action that launches the utility to run *after* the reboot? ScheduleReboot schedules a reboot after the setup completes; the setu

Re: [WiX-users] WiX3 DIFxApp extension on x64

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Arnson
Kevin Richardson wrote: > Is x64 support not yet in the WiX DIFxApp extension? Is there a > workaround? > Not today. We probably need to add an attribute to distinguish the type of component (x86, x64, ia64) to plug in the right version of difxapp.dll. -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/

Re: [WiX-users] Allow installer to install over itself

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Arnson
Colin Bleckner wrote: Yeah you're right, updating the build number is probably a good idea. Does WiX support a way to update build numbers automatically? I'd like to make building my installer as idiot proof as possible so that there are fewer ways I can accidentally screw things up the futur

Re: [WiX-users] removing components marked with the Permanent attribute

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Arnson
John Lalande wrote: > Is there a way to remove components that were marked with the > Permanent attribute when installed? No. > > Also, can a permanent component be upgraded? Yes, if the key file is upgraded (i.e., with a higher version number). -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/

Re: [WiX-users] Display an information dialog just before the end of the installation

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Arnson
Richard Amos wrote: > So, what the correct procedure for splicing a dialog into the > InstallDir UI so that it's displayed just before the install finishes? There is none, because MSI doesn't return to the UI sequence to handle the final dialog until the entire execute sequence is complete. --

Re: [WiX-users] Using UninstallString to uninstall multiple MSIs

2008-05-16 Thread Bob Arnson
Jason Rivers wrote: > How do I configure the system so that my setup.exe (which is a stub > that can launch a number of MSIs) is run when the user chooses to > uninstall my application? I've tried changing various UninstallString > registry entries but nothing seems to have any effect. When Add

[WiX-users] Exclusive Installation of Features

2008-05-16 Thread Tanikella, Rajanikanth (SCR US)
Hello All, In the 'yep - back to being 100% frustrated' thread, someone mentioned it is impossible to installtwo features exclusively from one another. Is this true? I would like to create an installer that is capable of installing my certs, and/or my rich client, and/or my web application, and/o

Re: [WiX-users] Generate MSI during install

2008-05-16 Thread Phil Sayers
Thanks for the info. I'm sure this "can" be done. I'm trying to work out the best way to move forwards and be able to produce a proof-of-concept that shows it. If the wix toolset will get me 80% (or more) of the way there then I can most likely hammer away at the remaining small issues until I g

[WiX-users] checkbox didn't set an property

2008-05-16 Thread Norbert Haedler
hello, i'd try to build an installer who had an checkbox. when it is set the property TESTDATA should be xyz. if it is not set TEXTDATA should be abc. i also set an property abc so that i have an value if the checkbox is not set...but it didn't work. can anybody help me please? thanks a lot

Re: [WiX-users] yep - back to being 100% frustrated

2008-05-16 Thread Tanikella, Rajanikanth (SCR US)
I must say, you have all made my day. I've spent months banging my head and feeling like I'm not worth a damn despite all my non-deployment development experience. And worse, feeling like no one would understand why this installer is sucking up so many staff hours even if I tried my technical best

Re: [WiX-users] Generate MSI during install

2008-05-16 Thread Gendelman, Yuri
Hello Phil, You can create 2 separate WiX projects, for a server, and for a client. Than add a Custom Action to the first one (server), which will launch a batch file for compiling and linking the second one (client). MBR, Yuri -Original Message- Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:05:47 -0400 Fr

Re: [WiX-users] Generate MSI during install

2008-05-16 Thread Dan Hoeger
Check out the windows installer SDK there are api's to allow you to edit an MSI. I would suggest just creating the client MSI and then using a custom action to edit some properties during the server install. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Sayers Sent: Friday

Re: [WiX-users] Temporary files in WiX?

2008-05-16 Thread Neil Enns
Thanks for the details, Rob. It sounds like from you write below that the security issue exists regardless of whether the files are temporary, correct? Any time you have an installer that writes files to a disk, then executes them via a deferred custom action, the vulnerability owuld be there?

[WiX-users] Generate MSI during install

2008-05-16 Thread Phil Sayers
I'm doing some planning for moving from our existing xcopy based deployment to msi (hopefully with wix) based installs. Our application is written in .net framework 2.0 We have a client & server that need to be deployed with separate MSI's. The server side of the application consists of a bunch of

Re: [WiX-users] Temporary files in WiX?

2008-05-16 Thread Christopher Painter
While this is a great observation, I can't help question the severity of the concern since: 1) There are about a dozen easier ways to own a Windows box 2) The elevated installation story is hardly used out in the real world. It's certainly not used in the home space and in the corp spa

Re: [WiX-users] Problem with XMLConfig Element (empty xmlns attribute)

2008-05-16 Thread RodP42
Hi Stefan, I had the same problem. A simple but unpretty solution I found was to add a second step to populate the empty namespace attribute. e.g. http://add-your-toplevel-schema-namespace-here"; Sequence="2" /> Which results in http://add-your-toplevel-schema-namespace-here"; /> L

Re: [WiX-users] Temporary files in WiX?

2008-05-16 Thread Rob Mensching
There isn't anything built into the Windows Installer that supports temporary files during the install. Thus, you will need a Custom Action to manage the temporary files. If you're requiring these temporary files for consumption by a deferred Custom Action then you have to be very, very carefu

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Re: [WiX-users] Building localized versions of an installer

2008-05-16 Thread Fairweather, James
OK, that's good to know about what the various tools are designed to output. Unfortunately in this case calling torch on the wixmst file returns an error similar to the one light gave me: Ø Torch.exe en-us.wixmst -out en-us.mst C:\Documents and Settings\jamesf\Local Settings\Temp\nkwvms

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