Re: [Wireshark-dev] wireshark handles SCTP association indexing wrong under some circumstances -- multi-homing is wrongly reported where there is none

2023-12-20 Thread John Thacker
On Wed, Dec 20, 2023, 4:32 PM John Thacker wrote: > > On 6 Dec 2023, at 12:08, Ariel Burbaickij >> wrote: >> > >> > Hello all, >> > >> > we have a special setup here: SS7 E1 is converted to SCTP traffic with >> the following basic schema (I cannot share capture itself, just in case): >> > -- the

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-12-20 Thread Anders Broman
Hi, To me it is a useful feature to be able to easily build .deb packages and make repos to easily update and maintain wireshark across servers. This is a feature I vote for us to keep regardless of any opinion on how Debian build their packages. Maybe a Debian mailing list is a better place to dis

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-12-20 Thread João Valverde
On 20/12/23 22:35, Roland Knall wrote: Am 20.12.2023 um 22:43 schrieb João Valverde :  On 20/12/23 21:21, Roland Knall wrote: Am 20.12.2023 um 22:02 schrieb João Valverde :  On 20/12/23 20:52, Roland Knall wrote: So people can link to our libraries to write other projets? And expe

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-12-20 Thread Roland Knall
> Am 20.12.2023 um 22:43 schrieb João Valverde : > >  > >> On 20/12/23 21:21, Roland Knall wrote: >> Am 20.12.2023 um 22:02 schrieb João Valverde : >>> >>>  >>> On 20/12/23 20:52, Roland Knall wrote: So people can link to our libraries to write other projets? And

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-12-20 Thread João Valverde
On 20/12/23 21:21, Roland Knall wrote: Am 20.12.2023 um 22:02 schrieb João Valverde :  On 20/12/23 20:52, Roland Knall wrote: So people can link to our libraries to write other projets? And expect it to work reliably? That is news to me. I have made this question many times over the y

Re: [Wireshark-dev] wireshark handles SCTP association indexing wrong under some circumstances -- multi-homing is wrongly reported where there is none

2023-12-20 Thread John Thacker
> > > On 6 Dec 2023, at 12:08, Ariel Burbaickij > wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > we have a special setup here: SS7 E1 is converted to SCTP traffic with > the following basic schema (I cannot share capture itself, just in case): > > -- there are no INITs, HEARTBEATs/ACK, SACKs, just DATA chunks

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-12-20 Thread Roland Knall
> Am 20.12.2023 um 22:02 schrieb João Valverde : > >  > >> On 20/12/23 20:52, Roland Knall wrote: >> >> >> Am Mi., 20. Dez. 2023 um 21:24 Uhr schrieb João Valverde : >> >> >> >>On 20/12/23 16:06, Roland Knall wrote: >>> Ok, I am not ignoring those points, as I think those points a

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-12-20 Thread João Valverde
On 20/12/23 20:52, Roland Knall wrote: Am Mi., 20. Dez. 2023 um 21:24 Uhr schrieb João Valverde : On 20/12/23 16:06, Roland Knall wrote: > Ok, I am not ignoring those points, as I think those points are valid. > It makes sense, that building debian packages from the reposit

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-12-20 Thread Roland Knall
Am Mi., 20. Dez. 2023 um 21:24 Uhr schrieb João Valverde : > > > On 20/12/23 16:06, Roland Knall wrote: > > Ok, I am not ignoring those points, as I think those points are valid. > > It makes sense, that building debian packages from the repository > > should behave in the same way as it does with

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-12-20 Thread João Valverde
On 20/12/23 16:06, Roland Knall wrote: Ok, I am not ignoring those points, as I think those points are valid. It makes sense, that building debian packages from the repository should behave in the same way as it does with the overall projects. Now, one could argue, that having multiple packag

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-12-20 Thread Roland Knall
We messed up in a sense, that we should have found an argument and final position on API compatibility. Not that it did not work out well, but it "happened" instead of being planned That was, what I meant with "messed up". I read their argument and I still disagree. It might be the best for their

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-12-20 Thread Bálint Réczey
Roland Knall ezt írta (időpont: 2023. dec. 20., Sze, 17:06): > > Ok, I am not ignoring those points, as I think those points are valid. It > makes sense, that building debian packages from the repository should behave > in the same way as it does with the overall projects. Now, one could argue,

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Changes to the plugin registration API

2023-12-20 Thread Bálint Réczey
Hi Roland, Roland Knall ezt írta (időpont: 2023. dec. 4., H, 13:16): > > I do not think we need to revert the whole change. I actually like the way > the new version check is implemented and think it is beneficial to a lot of > users, because it will reduce the number of changes they have to ma

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-12-20 Thread Roland Knall
Ok, I am not ignoring those points, as I think those points are valid. It makes sense, that building debian packages from the repository should behave in the same way as it does with the overall projects. Now, one could argue, that having multiple packages could have been avoided in the beginning o

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-12-20 Thread João Valverde
Keep in mind I am just a user but I'm not one to skip a good technical discussion. I'm ignoring your other points on purpose, there is only so much I can handle in one sitting. On 20/12/23 13:24, Bálint Réczey wrote: Having separate packages follows Debian packaging best practices and served

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-12-20 Thread Roland Knall
Hi Balint It would be worth amending the Readme with this information, as well as the packaging section of the wiki, to ensure this information is not getting lost and future discussions may be avoided by pointing to it. kind regards Roland Am Mi., 20. Dez. 2023 um 14:24 Uhr schrieb Bálint Récze

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-12-20 Thread Bálint Réczey
Hi, João Valverde ezt írta (időpont: 2023. nov. 27., H, 21:42): > > > > On 27/11/23 16:26, Jeff Morriss wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 11:54 AM João Valverde wrote: > > > > > > On 22/11/23 15:37, John Thacker wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 9:40 AM João Valverde wrote: > >> > >>