Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-14 Thread Tyler Romeo
Disregard the first point on that email. I misread the header. *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2016 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Tyler Romeo wrote: > I'm a little confused: > > >- Right

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-14 Thread Tyler Romeo
I'm a little confused: - Right now it appears our SPF records just say to allow everything (unless I should be checking something other than lists.wikimedia.org). - Why was the bug marked as WONTFIX if it was actually FIXED? *-- * *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class o

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-14 Thread Myles Gray
Same here, funnily enough. Nothing in spam. -Signalizing On Wednesday, August 14, 2013, David Gerard wrote: > On 14 August 2013 13:01, Federico Leva (Nemo) > > > wrote: > > > So, are you still seeing this happening? > > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52556 was wontfix'ed, but SPF rules were > >

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 August 2013 13:01, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > So, are you still seeing this happening? > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52556 was wontfix'ed, but SPF rules were > actually added and all messages I receive now have spf=pass; however it's > unclear how much this helps (it's surely not *the

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
So, are you still seeing this happening? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52556 was wontfix'ed, but SPF rules were actually added and all messages I receive now have spf=pass; however it's unclear how much this helps (it's surely not *the* source of the problem). Nemo _

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-07 Thread Chad
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:55 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 7 August 2013 14:18, Tim Starling wrote: > > > Everyone who is affected by this should complain to Google. Make it > > clear that it is a recent problem. It's better if the complaints come > > from users than from outside. > > > Is there a

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 August 2013 14:18, Tim Starling wrote: > Everyone who is affected by this should complain to Google. Make it > clear that it is a recent problem. It's better if the complaints come > from users than from outside. Is there anywhere they're actually listening? That's really not something Goo

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-07 Thread Tim Starling
Everyone who is affected by this should complain to Google. Make it clear that it is a recent problem. It's better if the complaints come from users than from outside. -- Tim Starling On 07/08/13 17:42, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: > Same for me. I added a filter but I'm thinking about a better solution

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-07 Thread shi zhao
wikimedia-l, checkuser-l, wikitext-l and wikitech-l in spam, but just the a email not in spam :D Chinese wikipedia: http://zh.wikipedia.org/ My blog: http://shizhao.org twitter: https://twitter.com/shizhao [[zh:User:Shizhao]] 2013/8/6 Yuvi Panda : > All emails to labs-l always end up in spam for

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-07 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
Same for me. I added a filter but I'm thinking about a better solution... Best On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada wrote: > Meanwhile you can fix the filters and add the option "do not send to spam > folder". I did it for all my wiki filters... > > > 2013/8/6 Bináris >

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-06 Thread Emilio J . Rodríguez-Posada
Meanwhile you can fix the filters and add the option "do not send to spam folder". I did it for all my wiki filters... 2013/8/6 Bináris > 2013/8/5 Risker > > > > > Really? I've not once had that message. As best I can tell, it is > > affecting EVERY lists.wikimedia.org mailing list, with the

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread Bináris
2013/8/5 Risker > > Really? I've not once had that message. As best I can tell, it is > affecting EVERY lists.wikimedia.org mailing list, with the possible > exception of the checkuser mailing list. CU-list is also deeply involved. :-( ___ Wikitech-

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread Greg Grossmeier
Just looping the list in on the status: We're talking with a support person from Google, they've made a couple of suggestions that I've forwarded to Ops (specifically SPF and DKIM). They also asked for the headers of some of the messages, which you saw I related to the bug. I sent them the one Al

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread MZMcBride
C. Scott Ananian wrote: >On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Ken Snider wrote: >> I believe Greg G. has reached out to the Office IT team, who have the >> ability to open a ticket against GMail (since wikimedia uses GMail for >>org email). > >If Brian Wolff's diagnosis is correct ( >https://bugzilla.w

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread Tim Landscheidt
"C. Scott Ananian" wrote: >> I believe Greg G. has reached out to the Office IT team, who have the >> ability to open a ticket against GMail (since wikimedia uses GMail for org >> email). > If Brian Wolff's diagnosis is correct ( > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52556) this has n

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Ken Snider wrote: > I believe Greg G. has reached out to the Office IT team, who have the > ability to open a ticket against GMail (since wikimedia uses GMail for org > email). > If Brian Wolff's diagnosis is correct ( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?i

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread Ken Snider
I believe Greg G. has reached out to the Office IT team, who have the ability to open a ticket against GMail (since wikimedia uses GMail for org email). Thanks. --Ken. On Aug 5, 2013, at 5:15 PM, David Gerard wrote: > On 5 August 2013 21:57, Risker wrote: > >> Really? I've not once had tha

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 August 2013 22:25, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > lists.wikipedia.org is missing an SPF record in DNS. That is most likely > what is causing the email to be flagged. Is that easy or hard to fix? (I can't work out how to get a list of email addresses for wikien-l, to work out how many subscrib

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread OQ
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Risker wrote: Really? I've not once had that message. As best I can tell, it is > affecting EVERY lists.wikimedia.org mailing list, with the possible > exception of the checkuser mailing list. I do not know what is different > about that one. > Hurm I stand cor

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I recommend posters re-read bawolff's message: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Brian Wolff wrote: > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52556 sounds related... > > --bawolff lists.wikipedia.org is missing an SPF record in DNS. That is most likely what is causing the email to be fla

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 August 2013 21:57, Risker wrote: > Really? I've not once had that message. As best I can tell, it is > affecting EVERY lists.wikimedia.org mailing list, with the possible > exception of the checkuser mailing list. I do not know what is different > about that one. Does anyone have a cont

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread Risker
On 5 August 2013 16:23, OQ wrote: > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada < > emi...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > What is the explanation for this? My spam folder is full of emails from > > wiki mailing lists too. > > > > Perhaps many users don't know how to unsubscribe and mar

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread OQ
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada wrote: > What is the explanation for this? My spam folder is full of emails from > wiki mailing lists too. > > Perhaps many users don't know how to unsubscribe and mark them as spam and > Google filter has learn it? > > Since it includes

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 August 2013 20:06, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: > On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 19:03:53 +0200, David Gerard wrote: >> Not just for me, but for others. Is there any way for us to work out >> what we're doing wrong? > I actually just noticed this today, unspammed the messages and was going to > mail her

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 19:03:53 +0200, David Gerard wrote: Not just for me, but for others. Is there any way for us to work out what we're doing wrong? I actually just noticed this today, unspammed the messages and was going to mail here about it. Affects at least wikitech-l and mediawiki-l for

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread Brian Wolff
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52556 sounds related... --bawolff On 8/5/13, Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada wrote: > What is the explanation for this? My spam folder is full of emails from > wiki mailing lists too. > > Perhaps many users don't know how to unsubscribe and mark them as

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread Emilio J . Rodríguez-Posada
What is the explanation for this? My spam folder is full of emails from wiki mailing lists too. Perhaps many users don't know how to unsubscribe and mark them as spam and Google filter has learn it? 2013/8/5 Mathieu Stumpf > Le lundi 05 août 2013 à 23:01 +0530, Yuvi Panda a écrit : > > All ema

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le lundi 05 août 2013 à 23:01 +0530, Yuvi Panda a écrit : > All emails to labs-l always end up in spam for me (I've a special rule > that picks them out of spam, and GMail still warns me). > > /end-data-point > > Bad mail provider, change mail provider. ;) __

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread Yuvi Panda
All emails to labs-l always end up in spam for me (I've a special rule that picks them out of spam, and GMail still warns me). /end-data-point -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://list

Re: [Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread Greg Grossmeier
> Not just for me, but for others. Is there any way for us to work out > what we're doing wrong? I got a report that my message to wikitech-ambassadors@ was sent to spam last week, as well. Just throwing out a datum. Greg -- | Greg GrossmeierGPG: B2FA 27B1 F7EB D327 6B8E | | ident

[Wikitech-l] GMail sending lots of WIkimedia mail to spam again

2013-08-05 Thread David Gerard
Not just for me, but for others. Is there any way for us to work out what we're doing wrong? - d. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l