[Wikimediauk-l] blog.wikimedia.org.uk SSL cert not working in Firefox Ubuntu (works in Chromium)

So I went to https://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2015/07/welcoming-lucy-crompton-reid-as-new-ceo-of-wikimedia-uk/ and Firefox 41.0.1 complains about the SSL cert: blog.wikimedia.org.uk uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown. The se

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] blog.wikimedia.org.uk SSL cert not working in Firefox Ubuntu (works in Chromium)

Still broken here for me ... On 9 October 2015 at 21:22, Richard Grafen wrote: > Is now working fine for me with no warning message in Ubuntu Firefox 41.0.1. > Temporary glitch? > > Richard > grafen > > On 9 October 2015 at 20:17, David Gerard wrote: >&g

[Wikimediauk-l] Vale Telsa Gwynne

Welsh Wikimedian, very active several years ago. https://www.gnome.org/news/2015/11/in-memory-of-telsa-gwynne/ - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wiki

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Vale Telsa Gwynne

m. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who > operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). > > Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over > Wikipedia nor responsibility

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Moving on

On 30 November 2015 at 13:00, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote: >however it was agreed with Stevie that he > would be the one to let everyone know. To be fair, as comms guy it was literally his job :-) - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikime

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Moving on

On 30 November 2015 at 13:44, Stevie Benton wrote: > Thanks everyone for your kind words. I think my subscription to this list has > only just activated but I've seen the other replies on the list archive > pages. I really appreciate your messages and I look forward to working with > you all a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Intro / British statutes

Obvious first thought: how to coordinate this with what http://www.bailii.org/ does? - d. On 3 January 2017 at 14:44, John Levin wrote: > Dear list, > > As this is my first post to this list, an intro to start: > I am a student at Sussex, but live in London, writing a PhD on the history > of im

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Camera donation

*psst* someone should say "yes please thank you very much sir" On 1 February 2017 at 20:44, geni wrote: > Tried i...@wikimedia.org.uk. I didn't get a reply. > > Would wikimedia UK be interested in me donating my old Canon EOS 5D Mark III > (~42K shutter actuations)? > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w

[Wikimediauk-l] BBC Newsnight want to do Daily Mail vs WP:RS tonight - editor on hand?

BBC Newsnight want a Wikipedia editor who can talk about this, for tonight. I can't, can anyone else? Email me and I'll forward you the email. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/w

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Newsnight want to do Daily Mail vs WP:RS tonight - editor on hand?

know? > > The office has had a flood of emails and phone calls which we've been > fielding as best as we can. I'm hoping that when San Francisco wakes up and > comes online they will send me their statement on the issue, which would > help to deal with enquiries. > >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Newsnight want to do Daily Mail vs WP:RS tonight - editor on hand?

ences" sounds tricky. ;) > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 1:51 PM, David Gerard wrote: > >> Usual line is "editorial decision, I'll forward your details to some >> editors" then email here ;-D >> >> so er, editors? >> >> On 9 Februar

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Newsnight want to do Daily Mail vs WP:RS tonight - editor on hand?

falsehoods brought up in the RFC, recite in a calm voice while smiling On 9 February 2017 at 15:45, David Gerard wrote: > That is literally what the task is, yes :-) > > On 9 February 2017 at 15:41, Chris Keating > wrote: > >> Hmmm, trying to turn an interview from "zomg

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC Newsnight want to do Daily Mail vs WP:RS tonight - editor on hand?

t; Which leaves the question of "why blacklist the Daily Mail not even worse > sources?" If anyone can suggest an answer to that which would keep a journo > happy I'd be interested to hear it ;) > > On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:47 PM, David Gerard wrote: > >>

[Wikimediauk-l] UK press corps - do we have editors on hand?

I suspect we need to build up the UK press corps again. The call comes maybe every 1-2 years, but when it happens we need people. So if you see an email come by, you can *SPRING* into action and represent editors on the BBC ... Last night's Newsnight didnt happen, because the Daily Mail bottled it

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] UK press corps - do we have editors on hand?

n Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Charles Matthews < >> charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >> >> On 11 February 2017 at 00:45 David Gerard wrote: >> >> I suspect we need to build up the UK press corps again. The call comes >> maybe every 1-2

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Election Edit-a-thon

How are we with getting good free images of MPs? Or at least of candidates. We have some terrible snapshots of UK politicians ... anyone who's a party member who could talk to their party about getting good photos, or freeing up original photos? (The Open Government Licence is Commons-suitable and

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Election Edit-a-thon

On 23 April 2017 at 04:41, geni wrote: > On 21 April 2017 at 18:17, David Gerard wrote: >> How are we with getting good free images of MPs? > Poorly. MPs should be out and about a bit more in the next few weeks > but I always feel a but iffy bringing serious camera gear to Q&a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimediauk-l list run by ????

Run by WMF, so up to them. Have a conversation about migrating from GNU Mailman 2.1 to GNU Mailman 3.0 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52864 Official support for upgrade from existing Mailman 2.1 lists to Mailman 3 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130554 - d. On 26 April 2017 at 16:31,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Problems with list

No idea what this could be ... John, please email me separately with what address you're using, etc. On 3 May 2017 at 17:27, wrote: > Hi all, > > Please see below a message from John which I am forwarding this to the list. > It was underneath another email which I received from the list, but whi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Re: CC licenses for PhD theses

I can tell you it didn't get stuck in the admin queue or I would have let it through ... I don't *think* the Mailman system is set up to reject mail before it even hits the admin queue, but I could be wrong ... On 5 May 2017 at 14:32, wrote: > Hi all, > > This is the email I sent on Tuesday, whi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Designs for T shirts

btw - messages in this thread are getting held in the admin queue because the T-shirt images are 370KB. (Usual limit is 40KB.) So if you send an image, it's likely to be stuck until I get to it the next morning. (Admin alerts go out at 8am, I get to them some time or other.) - d.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Official parliamentary photos of MPs to be open licensed

\o/ On 14 June 2017 at 08:12, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Breaking news: Official parliamentary photos of (new?) MPs, being > taken today, will be under Creative Commons Unported Attribution 3.0 > licence. > > Only five years after I wrote: > > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/politician-open-licensed-pict

[Wikimediauk-l] Firefox doesn't like cert for https://donate.wikimedia.org.uk

Just renewed my WMUK membership, and Firefox balked at the SSL certificate. The cert doesn't expire until 2019, but Firefox 54 doesn't like it. Oddly, Chromium 58 is fine with it. Can anyone see what's wrong, which CA Firefox doesn't like any more etc? - d. _

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Firefox doesn't like cert for https://donate.wikimedia.org.uk

rtificate. I'm running Firefox for Mac 53.0.3 on MacOS Sierra. > > Michael > > David Gerard > 15 June 2017 at 10:28 am > Just renewed my WMUK membership, and Firefox balked at the SSL > certificate. The cert doesn't expire until 2019, but Firefox 54 doesn't

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Firefox doesn't like cert for https://donate.wikimedia.org.uk

June 2017 at 12:04, Emmanuel Engelhart wrote: > Hi > > Please open a ticket for that and explain exactly what goes wrong. I'll > have a look this WE. > > Emmanuel > > On 15.06.2017 12:52, David Gerard wrote: >> Update to Firefox 54 (just hit the Ubuntu repos today

[Wikimediauk-l] WMUK member confirmation sent to spam by GMail

Apparently it was sent to spam because it doesn't meet GMail's "Bulk Sender Guidelines": https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126?hl=en-GB#authentication tl;dr they want you using SPF, DMARC and DKIM. (The message headers say spf=neutral, which I expect means nobody's set it up.) These are v

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Firefox doesn't like cert for https://donate.wikimedia.org.uk

Firefox, but this time I had no problems >> with the certificate. I'm running Firefox for Mac 53.0.3 on MacOS Sierra. >> >> Michael >> >>> David Gerard <mailto:dger...@gmail.com> >>> 15 June 2017 at 10:28 am >>> Just renewed my WMU

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Native name" in Infobox?

You see a lot of this, where someone from a given ethnic origin has a "native" version of their name put on their article even if there's no citable evidence they've ever used it. Do we have a cite for this? First port of call would be the refs, second the talk page. On 31 July 2017 at 23:03, Rich

[Wikimediauk-l] large attachments may delay your message

If your message is over 40KB, it gets held in the mod queue. I get a queue message daily and sometimes remember to look at it. I've raised the limit to 100BK - but if possible, please use a link instead of an inline image! - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing

[Wikimediauk-l] Womanthology would like to run something on Wikipedia's efforts to fix the gender gap in our editing and coverage

Got a call on Friday from Fiona Tatton from Womanthology. She was interested in talking to someone who's worked on improving representation of women in Wikipedia, and editing Wikipedia. Coverage is basically talking to individuals about what they do. I'm pretty sure this'll be a positive for our

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Introducing Natasha Iles

Hello and good evening! On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 at 16:10, Lucy Crompton-Reid wrote: > > Dear all > > I'm very pleased to introduce you all to Natasha Iles, who joined Wikimedia > UK on Monday as our new Head of Development and Communications. Natasha will > be heading up a new team, including Katie

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Poll: Should Wikimedia UK accept in-kind donations of kit?

On 27 March 2012 13:43, Fae wrote: > Here's a quick 24 hour poll on the issues surrounding WMUK accepting > kit from donors. (the table > looks better if you click "Show all 7 options") > Comments on this thread welcome. The board will be discussing a > pa

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CREWE session in May

On 29 March 2012 10:58, Fae wrote: > Steve Virgin has been doing a lot of work in this area and should be > involved. Though my "file" for the chapter is mainly GLAM, I do > (apparently) cover governance and I am personally very interested in > ensuring that the outreach initiative that Jimbo sta

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] List archives

On 29 March 2012 13:29, Thomas Dalton wrote: > I've just noticed the list archives for this list (accessible via the link > in the footer) are restricted to subscribers only (although there is no > restriction on who can subscribe). Is that intentional and, if so, why? Shouldn't be, I'd have th

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] List archives

On 29 March 2012 13:38, Fae wrote: > It is deliberate. Unless someone else puts an explanation up I can > post something about this next week when I'm not traveling. That'd be good :-) It does break convention that public Wikimedia lists have public archives. - d. ___

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Board Resolutions from March 30th 2012

On 31 March 2012 21:53, Thomas Dalton wrote: > Now, what happens in the 2016-17 fundraiser is anybody's guess. The > WMF board is intending to re-evaluate the whole thing. My hope is that > the 4 fundraising chapters will have demonstrated what a success > chapters fundraising can be and other ch

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Bid for Wikimania 2013

On 1 April 2012 00:42, Anthony (AGK) wrote: > On 1 April 2012 00:38, James Farrar wrote: >> You make the assumption that the people who had worked on the rejected bid >> would have shaken that rejection off to give their wholehearted support to >> the chosen bid. > If the deadline for bids has

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Bid for Wikimania 2013

On 1 April 2012 10:41, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 01/04/2012 00:50, David Gerard wrote: >> Crikey, a win for any UK bid would be a win for WMUK! > And the community? Well, *yes*, really obviously. However, the post I was replying to specifically concerned

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Guest Post: Librarians meet Wikipedians: collaboration not competition!"

On 4 April 2012 12:11, Richard Symonds wrote: > Fantastic! John Rylands is an incredible place - it's more like a cathedral > than a library. When I heard Alain de Botton's "atheist temple" idea, my first thought was "this building ... will it have a lot of *books* in it?" - d. _

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Geograph

On 9 April 2012 14:52, WereSpielChequers wrote: > It turns out that they aren't aware that the migration has stalled, as their > site still claims that all their images get migrated to Commons > http://www.geograph.org.uk/faq3.php?q=wikipedia > I think there is a big opportunity for the chapter h

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] List archives

On 10 April 2012 14:45, Gordon Joly wrote: > Er. > If the list archive is already cloned, there seems no point to protect it. > Do we agree? It does indeed appear to be security theatre at best. But Fae said he'd get back to us with why it was locked ... - d.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] List archives

On 10 April 2012 19:48, Edward at Logic Museum wrote: > David Gerard: >>It does indeed appear to be security theatre at best. > You are another of those who like to repeat these lies and > accusations on various boards, and making serious threats like 'harassment'. >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] List archives

On 11 April 2012 08:13, Fae wrote: > I'm afraid that I will leave this list too if it gets officially > publicly archived again. The malicious attack putting the career of a > long term contributor at risk by data-mining the archives of this > email list back to 2008, was deeply upsetting for all

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] List archives

On 11 April 2012 08:37, Gordon Joly wrote: > But there again, David, you are one the four list maintainers. That appears to be a non sequitur with no bearing on whether anyone else is archiving the list publicly already, which they are. - d. ___ Wi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Nice link

On 14 April 2012 20:45, Tom Morris wrote: > I would suggest that the critique rests on a highly questionable > assumption, namely that if Wikipedia were not there people would pay > journalists to write the stuff that Wikipedia provides. Given that > when I'm creating new articles about topics, t

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Adobe Creative Suite software license

On 17 April 2012 13:05, Thomas Dalton wrote: > Is there not a free/open source alternative for creative publishing? Text files writing PNMs, obviously. (The answer is frequently "not within reason, and it's not like RMS is ever being let into Wikimania ever again".) - d. ___

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Adobe Creative Suite software license

On 17 April 2012 13:41, Thomas Morton wrote: > Have you tried Inkscape (FOSS vector image editor)? I used to use Fireworks > a lot and Inkscape turned out to be, surprisingly, a worthy upgrade on that. > But there can be a learning curve if you're only a casual Fireworks user. > Worth considering

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Adobe Creative Suite software license

On 17 April 2012 13:54, geni wrote: > Hmm desktop publishing: >  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scribus Last I used it, it was mostly useful for crashes. Are you mentioning it as someone who's actually used it for real work? 'Cos that's what we're after here. - d. _

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Adobe Creative Suite software license

On 18 April 2012 18:28, Thomas Dalton wrote: > Yes, it is a good point. We shouldn't be making ideological decisions > unless they do actually further our objects. I think we can justify > our policy of using FOSS whenever there isn't a strong reason not to, > though, since supporting FOSS has kn

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

On 21 April 2012 21:41, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 21 April 2012 21:19, Gordon Joly wrote: >> I am very concerned that postings to this list appear to be specific to the >> business of WMUK, a charity registered in England and Wales. The set of >> members of this email list and the set of members

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] So who knows about their local wifi?

On 1 May 2012 10:35, Thomas Morton wrote: > More than anything it depends on the context; if you are talking about a > small endeavour at, say, a meeting venue you're probably alright using an > ad-hoc setup. But if you are talking an entirely public network then things > are more complex. > To b

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] So who knows about their local wifi?

On 1 May 2012 11:24, Tom Morris wrote: > On 1 May 2012 11:04, David Gerard wrote: >> I note also the Hack Day Manifesto (really a how-to), which goes into >> quite some detail on the technical side (though not the legal one): >> http://hackdaymanifesto.com/ > As one o

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Post AGM pub

On 10 May 2012 13:45, John Vandenberg wrote: > haha.  Even Fosters is better than the stuff you lot drink. :P Did I mention that one of my reasons to move here was the prospect of never drinking Australian piss lager *ever again*? (so of course English people keep greeting me with Fosters. AAA

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Post AGM pub

On 10 May 2012 15:00, Stevie Benton wrote: > To be fair to Aussie lager, it is abysmal. Some of it is actually nice - lager is almost all you can get, but there are tiny breweries that do stuff that verges on drinkable. The mass-market piss is piss. > Top marks to some of the fantastic wines

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] A V Denham

On 21 May 2012 13:42, HJ Mitchell wrote: > Oh, but I would love to see somebody try to stick a plaque on Buckingham > Palace without being shot and/or arrested! 1. Get Jimbo honorary knighthood. 2. Ask nicely. 3. Who knows! - d. ___ Wikimedia UK ma

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Lum Hats in Paradise

On 22 May 2012 13:03, wrote: > Given the piss-poor representation up here in Scotland, I think that's a > major win. My next job, as interim 'cowboy liasion' between Wikimedia UK > and Museums Galleries Scotland is to get a few councillors calling for > all publicly funded publications to be und

[Wikimediauk-l] (semi-OT) WMUK should probably not do any balloon releases, OK?

http://www.civilsociety.co.uk/fundraising/news/content/12473/charities_in_twitter_storm_over_balloon_releases - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikime

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] (semi-OT) WMUK should probably not do any balloon releases, OK?

On 25 May 2012 08:57, Michael Peel wrote: > Quick, cancel the order for all of those Wikipedia globe-shaped > balloons! Nah, we give those to kids in schools individually! And WMUK mugs for the teachers. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimedi

[Wikimediauk-l] A quick book review: Nonprofit Kit for Dummies

http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2012/05/26/you-need-to-read-nonprofit-kit-for-dummies/ Fantastic book. If we'd read this six or seven years ago, WMUK v1 would have succeeded. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] A V Denham

On 28 May 2012 12:08, Edward at Logic Museum wrote: To all:please stop feeding the troll. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia press release: Technological landmark for award-winning Birmingham Moor Street station

On 30 May 2012 10:12, Gordon Joly wrote: > QRPr0n codes? Real-world porn spam. Spammers are already putting QR codes in email spam ... - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimed

[Wikimediauk-l] Listadmin wanted for wikimediauk-l

Andrew Turvey has quit as listadmin so we could probably do with a spare. Present admins are me, James Forrester, Mike Peel and Richard Symonds. Mailman is easy to administer. The workload is minimal - checking the spam filter when you can be bothered. Any volunteers? Please email wikimediauk-l-

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Listadmin wanted for wikimediauk-l

On 30 May 2012 20:13, David Gerard wrote: > Andrew Turvey has quit as listadmin so we could probably do with a spare. > Any volunteers? Please email wikimediauk-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org . Who'd have thought being a listadmin would be so popular? Must be the stupendous capacity

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Listadmin wanted for wikimediauk-l

On 1 June 2012 23:15, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 1 June 2012 10:04, David Gerard wrote: >> We counted the bribes^W^W^Wtossed a virtual coin and picked >> thehelpfulone as the latest recipient of a daily list of really weird >> penis spam to clear. Thank you to all who also

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Piece by Jimmy Wales on front page f Today's Guardian

On 25 June 2012 09:13, Jon Davies wrote: > http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/24/wikipedia-founder-richard-odwyer-extradition-stopped > And before you email the Guardian in the on-line version he has become > 'founder' not 'chief'! Better than "Wikipedia boss" ... - d. ___

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] CIPR story in the Indie

On 28 June 2012 17:00, Richard Symonds wrote: > On 28 June 2012 16:55, Charles Matthews > wrote: >> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/pr-firms-urged-not-to-edit-wikipedia-7893579.html?origin=internalSearch > Ah yes, spotted this on my way in this morning. At least it's accurate!

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Draft Communications Bill

On 30 June 2012 16:02, Thomas Dalton wrote: > Pretty much all those examples are operated by the WMF, which isn't > subject to UK law, so I don't really see a problem. I would suggest Tom also post this message to wikimedia-l, for comment. - d. ___

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Draft Communications Bill

On 1 July 2012 19:44, Gordon Joly wrote: > So, USA and Europe. But not the UK. Yes. Rest assured the WMF is not so foolish as to base anything in the UK. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailm

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Welsh Education Minister

On 9 July 2012 16:06, Roger Bamkin wrote: > Robin Owain and I met Leighton Andrews (today) who is the Education Minister > for Wales. The meeting arose out of the work that we are doing in Wales. > This means Monmouthpedia and the Welsh Wicipedia (yes its spelt with a c). > The meeting lasted les

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Russian Wikipedia blackout.

On 10 July 2012 10:33, James Farrar wrote: > It's interesting to the community to learn that other countries and > languages have similar problems to those that have affected us here. And, of course, we're already getting the phone calls ;-) (I have had to beg off for today.) - d. __

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] National Trust hiring geeks...

On 19 July 2012 15:23, Brian McNeil wrote: > Thought this might be of interest to some folks on the list... > http://www.theitjobboard.com/r.php?t=36195_70549_8867026_17384 Wonder if the interview includes "what do you do when the creationists call?" http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jul/05

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The situation with the chair

It should be kept in mind that the en:wp arbcom is pretty much batshit insane these days. Hooking WMUK's fortunes to said body strikes me as ill-advised. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The situation with the chair

On 26 July 2012 20:14, Thomas Dalton wrote: > It could create some > negative PR for the movement generally due to internal conflict, but > we can survive that. Everyone else thinks the arbcom is insane too, AFAICT. If WMUK says "um, no" to such obvious railroading, it will certainly not be to

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] The situation with the chair

On 26 July 2012 20:33, Thomas Dalton wrote: > The general public don't know ArbCom exists, and the general > Wikimedian doesn't know enough about it to have an opinion. "This body you've never heard of and don't care about banned Fae, so we had to fire him." - d.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27 July 2012 13:57, HJ Mitchell wrote: > Without wishing to prompt an influx of comments about visual identity etc, I > think we should be wary of promoting the chapter (not just with merchandise) > over the projects which the chapter exists to support. > Wikipedia is a much more recognisable

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27 July 2012 14:35, Richard Symonds wrote: > Tom and Harry are broadly right though, I think - 'swag for the public' > should be largely project-branded, and 'swag for volunteers to use', should > be more Wikimedia-UK branded. Does that make sense? It does. Ideally both logos. Though the Wi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK merchandise

On 27 July 2012 16:20, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 27 July 2012 13:59, David Gerard wrote: >> We should consider that this isn't merchandise for sale, but giveaway >> swag - chapters can't sell merchandise (yet), just give it away. (Go >> visit WMUK and get away wi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 1 August 2012 12:01, Jon Davies wrote: > No effect I can see but Richard who monitors these things is in interviews > all day.I get notification of one-off and In fact a few quite generous > donations over the last 24 hours which surprised me. (£66.40 in total) > These normally happen at the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 1 August 2012 12:24, Thomas Dalton wrote: > I am assuming the Foundation is aware of the situation - do we have > confirmation that they are? If not, it would be a good idea to notify > them as a courtesy (they have a tendancy to get annoyed if we don't > tell them stuff...). It's reached th

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

On 1 August 2012 14:19, Andrew Gray wrote: > The best model for cases like this would be to develop a method where > we have an agreed partner who'll digitise culturally significant > material at a reasonable cost (or a group who can do it in-house, but > for material like this that's tricky) and

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

On 1 August 2012 14:51, Andrew Gray wrote: > The Internet Archive would be the best people to talk to about this; > they've experience in deploying scanning machines and training > individuals to operate them. I don't know how much the hardware costs, > but it seems there's one installed at the N

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

On 3 August 2012 14:06, Tom Morris wrote: >> http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/joint-select/draft-communications-bill/news/call-for-evidence/ > I did put together a list of Wikimedia-specific concerns with the > draft bill a while back on the list. > But everyone pooh-p

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

On 3 August 2012 19:38, Gordon Joly wrote: > Just how do Wikimedia UK reach the public? They may be Radio 4 listeners, > Scottish Herald readers, Morning Star readers, Sun readers, people who may > only be looking at ITV News? In the past 7 years of doing press I have *never* been able to get t

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] On being the Chair.

On 6 August 2012 20:50, Gordon Joly wrote: > Thanks Tom. Prehaps you can read between the lines? If you have something to say that you're actually willing to stand behind, then say it. If not, then don't. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimedi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Plaques

On 6 August 2012 22:02, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 6 August 2012 21:52, Richard Symonds > wrote: >> "Just under half of the blue plaques currently shortlisted to go up in >> London are being scrapped due to funding cuts. >> Perhaps it would be prudent for WMUK to step in, and fund some QRpedia >>

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Business cards

On 10 August 2012 04:16, HJ Mitchell wrote: > How is it an effective use of the charity's resources to effectively > duplicate perfectly good business cards, and then to spend money on postage > to get said perfectly good cards back, then spend yet more money on postage > to send the new ones out

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Business cards

On 10 August 2012 12:06, Thomas Dalton wrote: > The problem, then, is Richard's wording in his email. Recalling them > because of a mistake that was pointed out by a board member is > different from recalling them because a board member objected. Given > the way it was described, I think our reac

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Business cards

On 10 August 2012 16:31, HJ Mitchell wrote: > This is all very interesting, but for all the emails, isn't actually > addressing my point. No, it's dismissing your point as trivial, which it is. - d. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikim

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gibraltar's biggest website goes CC-BY-SA for Gibraltarpedia

On 13 August 2012 13:14, Chris Keating wrote: > No, but we may well be involved with it in future. It's a great > Wikimedia-related project, happening in the UK, Whoop, a Wikipedian should know better than to say a British Overseas Territory is in the UK! - d. _

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Gibraltar's biggest website goes CC-BY-SA for Gibraltarpedia

On 13 August 2012 13:26, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 13 August 2012 13:20, David Gerard wrote: >> On 13 August 2012 13:14, Chris Keating wrote: >>> No, but we may well be involved with it in future. It's a great >>> Wikimedia-related project, happening in the UK

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Status of this list and its archives

On 15 August 2012 21:38, Thomas Dalton wrote: > One question: you said you won't agree to the "mass-deletion of content", > does that mean you are deleting some content, just not a large amount? The > arguments you make apply to small amounts of content just add much as they > do large amounts.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Status of this list and its archives

On 15 August 2012 22:28, Fae wrote: > Thanks James. In light of this I'll unsubscribe from this list until > such a time as the risks for new subscribers are made completely clear > on joining. The current text, both on the page and in the joining message, is: This is a public mailing list fo

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Falklands

On 21 August 2012 12:54, Richard Symonds wrote: > At £2k for a non-commercial flight, it could be quite tricky to get /anyone/ > down there. Even sending cargo is quite expensive. From South America, it's > about £500. Are there any Wikimedians in the Falklands? I'm sure WMUK can lend them its

[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] Equipment exchange forum on Wikimedia Commons

While we're talking about who wants a huge scanner ... -- Forwarded message -- From: Fae Date: 5 September 2012 17:01 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Equipment exchange forum on Wikimedia Commons To: Wikimedia Mailing List On 5 September 2012 16:50, Tomasz W. Kozłowski wrote: > Ov

[Wikimediauk-l] Photos of politicians?

We still don't have photos of every MP. Not that I've personally lifted a finger in this direction, but is anyone doing anything toward this? e.g. the hard slog of approaching each, or of getting the government to release official photos under OGL, or whatever else? - d.

[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

To list as well. Gah! Why did we set it this way again? -- Forwarded message -- From: David Gerard Date: 17 September 2012 13:32 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin To: Andreas Kolbe On 17 September 2012 13:19, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > I'm sorr

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK board election process

On 17 September 2012 23:40, James Farrar wrote: > Frankly, I have never trusted electoral systems that rely on computers to > the point that the votes go in, a button is pushed, and a black box churns > out a result. I'd be much happier with a system that can if necessary be > recounted by hand s

[Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

To list as well. Bugger this, I'm changing it back now. -- Forwarded message -- From: David Gerard Date: 19 September 2012 14:21 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin To: Andreas Kolbe On 19 September 2012 14:13, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > I would

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

On 19 September 2012 15:43, Nicholas Jackson wrote: > I suppose my question is: does this sort of politicking actually serve the > aims of Wikimedia UK at all, and if not could it perhaps stop soon? This would require Wikipediocracy not to be a haven of trolls, nutters and stalkers whose missio

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin

On 19 September 2012 16:01, Thomas Morton wrote: > It *appears* Roger's interactions have indeed been ethical here - we just > didn't know about it. You appear to be claiming that the default assumption should be corruption, unless stated otherwise daily. This is a weird assumption in the real

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