Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia charity chairman resigns after pornography row"

2012-08-03 Thread Fae
On 3 August 2012 09:14, Gordon Joly wrote: > Shame that this is not the whole truth and nothing but the truth/ > I wonder if his phone was hacked? Glad you find it amusing Gordo. At some point you might want to recall that I am a real person with a real personal life including my partner of 22 ye

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Wikipedia charity chairman resigns after pornography row"

2012-08-03 Thread Gordon Joly
On 03/08/12 09:39, Fae wrote: On 3 August 2012 09:14, Gordon Joly wrote: Shame that this is not the whole truth and nothing but the truth/ I wonder if his phone was hacked? Glad you find it amusing Gordo. At some point you might want to recall that I am a real person with a real personal life

[Wikimediauk-l] Last-minute reminder: Coventry meetup on Sunday

2012-08-03 Thread HJ Mitchell
Hi folks, In the rare few minutes that I'm borrowing a working laptop, I'd like to remind you all of the Coventry meetup, which is being held in the Litten Tree in Coventry city centre this coming Sunday (5 August) from 13:00 onwards.  Coventry is nice and easy to get to in the car or on public

[Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

2012-08-03 Thread Jon Davies
I sent this around a while back. The ORG would like our support. Joscelyn Upendram is preparing a simple reponse on our behalf, if anyone wants to offer her ideas contact her directly Jon Davies. >From ORG: 'Peter, is preparing a CDB briefing for companies and h

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Last-minute reminder: Coventry meetup on Sunday

2012-08-03 Thread Doug Weller
Sorry, have relatives visiting that day. Doug On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:35 PM, HJ Mitchell wrote: > Hi folks, > > In the rare few minutes that I'm borrowing a working laptop, I'd like to > remind you all of the Coventry meetup, which is being held in the Litten > Tree in Coventry city centre this

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

2012-08-03 Thread Andreas Kolbe
I would be strongly opposed to endorsing political lobbying groups on this or any other issues. I would like Wikimedia UK to be an educational organisation that remains fastidiously neutral on these conflicts and does not take any political sides, whether it is the side of the Pirate Party (feature

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Last-minute reminder: Coventry meetup on Sunday

2012-08-03 Thread Roger Bamkin
Im on family duties - I hope to come to the photo shoot On 3 August 2012 13:35, HJ Mitchell wrote: > Hi folks, > > In the rare few minutes that I'm borrowing a working laptop, I'd like to > remind you all of the Coventry meetup, which is being held in the Litten > Tree in Coventry city centre t

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

2012-08-03 Thread Jon Davies
I understand your fear of appearing political but it is not political to respond to government consultations - that is a civic duty. The Charity commission is very clear about this: All charities are united by having a vision of a better society. They have many different purposes, and are focused

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

2012-08-03 Thread Tom Morris
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Jon Davies wrote: > I sent this around a while back. > The ORG would like our support. > > Joscelyn Upendram is preparing a simple reponse on our behalf, if anyone > wants to offer her ideas contact her directly > > Jon Davies. > > >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

2012-08-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 August 2012 14:06, Tom Morris wrote: >> http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/joint-select/draft-communications-bill/news/call-for-evidence/ > I did put together a list of Wikimedia-specific concerns with the > draft bill a while back on the list. > But everyone pooh-p

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

2012-08-03 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Jon Davies wrote: > I understand your fear of appearing political but it is not political to > respond to government consultations - that is a civic duty. > > The Charity commission is very clear about this: > > All charities are united by having a vision of a bette

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

2012-08-03 Thread Charles Matthews
On 3 August 2012 14:15, David Gerard wrote: > On 3 August 2012 14:06, Tom Morris wrote: >> Also, despite what Andreas says, it's not about partisanship, the bill >> is drafted atrociously and extremely vaguely. Even if you agree with >> what the government is trying to do, the bill is terribly w

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

2012-08-03 Thread Michael Peel
So, the word 'we' is rather innocuously dangerous. :-) To clarify Jon's comment that: > In our case we felt that SOPA/PIPA was relevant and went as far as to black > out the English Wikipedia for a day. 'We' the editing community (all >1000 that !voted online) felt SOPA/PIPA was relevant, and

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

2012-08-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 3 August 2012 14:02, Jon Davies wrote: > So it is then up to a charity to decide 'what is relevant' In our case we > felt that SOPA/PIPA was relevant and went as far as to black out the English > Wikipedia for a day. Your other - very valid - points notwithstanding, the charity didn't do that

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

2012-08-03 Thread Jon Davies
You are so right Andy! Hush my mouth - I will go and hide under my WIkidesk! On 3 August 2012 15:46, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 3 August 2012 14:02, Jon Davies wrote: > > > So it is then up to a charity to decide 'what is relevant' In our case we > > felt that SOPA/PIPA was relevant and went as f

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

2012-08-03 Thread Gordon Joly
On 03/08/12 15:46, Michael Peel wrote: 'We' the editing community (all >1000 that !voted online) felt SOPA/PIPA was relevant, and blacked out the site. 'We' the charity communicated the decision and views of the community to the media. It's very much this communication role that we the charit

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

2012-08-03 Thread Michael Peel
On 3 Aug 2012, at 09:06, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 03/08/12 15:46, Michael Peel wrote: >> >> 'We' the editing community (all >1000 that !voted online) felt SOPA/PIPA was >> relevant, and blacked out the site. 'We' the charity communicated the >> decision and views of the community to the media.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

2012-08-03 Thread rexx
That's excellent - do you think we could use our own-branded derivative as it's CC-BY-SA 3.0? I've attached a tiny thumbnail of what it might look like. -- Doug On 3 August 2012 17:10, Michael Peel wrote: > > On 3 Aug 2012, at 09:06, Gordon Joly wrote: > > > On 03/08/12 15:46, Michael Peel wr

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

2012-08-03 Thread Gordon Joly
On 03/08/12 17:10, Michael Peel wrote: On 3 Aug 2012, at 09:06, Gordon Joly wrote: On 03/08/12 15:46, Michael Peel wrote: 'We' the editing community (all >1000 that !voted online) felt SOPA/PIPA was relevant, and blacked out the site. 'We' the charity communicated the decision and views of t

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

2012-08-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 August 2012 19:38, Gordon Joly wrote: > Just how do Wikimedia UK reach the public? They may be Radio 4 listeners, > Scottish Herald readers, Morning Star readers, Sun readers, people who may > only be looking at ITV News? In the past 7 years of doing press I have *never* been able to get t

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

2012-08-03 Thread Gordon Joly
On 03/08/12 20:03, David Gerard wrote: and as a group of charities supported by public donation we owe it to the public to say who we are and what we're about, nevertheless the whims of the press and of the news cycle are not necessarily anything we should actually concern ourselves over

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

2012-08-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 3 August 2012 19:17, rexx wrote: >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMNL_-_NRC_CHARITY_AWARD.jpg > That's excellent - do you think we could use our own-branded derivative Plus one to that. We'd need to use our own QR code ; and it would be good to retain the hand-drawn font, and appe

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Request from Open Rights Group

2012-08-03 Thread geni
On 3 August 2012 13:43, Jon Davies wrote: > I sent this around a while back. > The ORG would like our support. > > Joscelyn Upendram is preparing a simple reponse on our behalf, if anyone > wants to offer her ideas contact her directly > > Jon Davies. Its unreasonable to expect people to comment