Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

"Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK" Therefore head of the UK Chapter? Or not? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On Aug 1, 2012 10:09 AM, "Gordon Joly" wrote: > > > > "Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK" > > Therefore head of the UK Chapter? Or not? > I'm not sure I understand the question. We don't have an official position of head, but I guess that would most accurately describe the chair, yes. ___

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 01/08/12 10:12, Thomas Dalton wrote: On Aug 1, 2012 10:09 AM, "Gordon Joly" > wrote: > > > > "Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK" > > Therefore head of the UK Chapter? Or not? > I'm not sure I understand the question. We don't have an official position

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia updates

He is meant to be on' gardening leave' I hope his bosses/or other gardeners don't find out what he has been up to! Great work Terence (and nice to hear your voice yesterday) Jon Davies. On 31 July 2012 21:46, Andy Mabbett wrote: > HI folks, > > QRpedia developer Terence Eden has a new job (co

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

A few jumps in logic too far. We are independent. The Foundation have been very clear that matters pertaining to the UK chapter are our business. On 1 August 2012 10:20, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 01/08/12 10:12, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > On Aug 1, 2012 10:09 AM, "Gordon Joly" wrote: > > > > >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 01/08/12 10:33, Jon Davies wrote: A few jumps in logic too far. We are independent. The Foundation have been very clear that matters pertaining to the UK chapter are our business. Thanks Jon! Logic was never my strong point... Gordo ___ Wikim

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Lets do all continue arguing over the semantics of newspaper articles whilst the reputation of the charity is slowly eroded. Seddon > Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 10:44:20 +0100 > From: gordon.j...@pobox.com > To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 1 August 2012 10:33, Jon Davies wrote: > A few jumps in logic too far. > > We are independent. > > The Foundation have been very clear that matters pertaining to the UK > chapter are our business. > > How recently did they communicate that? The Chapters agreement is pertinent; in it WMUK agre

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Yesterday and on a regular basis. On 1 August 2012 11:10, Thomas Morton wrote: > On 1 August 2012 10:33, Jon Davies wrote: > >> A few jumps in logic too far. >> >> We are independent. >> >> The Foundation have been very clear that matters pertaining to the UK >> chapter are our business. >> >>

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

just out of interest, what is the effect on current weekly donations to wikimedia uk? rupert. On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Jon Davies wrote: > Yesterday and on a regular basis. > > > On 1 August 2012 11:10, Thomas Morton wrote: >> >> On 1 August 2012 10:33, Jon Davies wrote: >>> >>> A few

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 1 August 2012 11:07, joseph seddon wrote: > Lets do all continue arguing over the semantics of newspaper articles > whilst the reputation of the charity is slowly eroded. > > Seddon > *Like* ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

It'll take a month to get full figures, but so far the effect is negligible - in fact, I believe donations may have gone up slightly over the past few days... Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

A test of the old saw about bad publicity... On Aug 1, 2012 11:56 AM, "Richard Symonds" wrote: > It'll take a month to get full figures, but so far the effect is > negligible - in fact, I believe donations may have gone up slightly over > the past few days... > > Richard Symonds > Wikimedia UK >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

No effect I can see but Richard who monitors these things is in interviews all day.I get notification of one-off and In fact a few quite generous donations over the last 24 hours which surprised me. (£66.40 in total) These normally happen at the weekend when I suppose people are at home, using wik

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 1 August 2012 12:01, Jon Davies wrote: > No effect I can see but Richard who monitors these things is in interviews > all day.I get notification of one-off and In fact a few quite generous > donations over the last 24 hours which surprised me. (£66.40 in total) > These normally happen at the w

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Its pretty much impossible to pick out any particular trend on a daily basis outside of the fundraiser (except if we suddenly start recieving hundreds of donation). That's well within the variance of donations. > From: andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk > Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 12:11:27 +0100 > To: wikim

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 1 August 2012 12:01, Jon Davies wrote: > No effect I can see but Richard who monitors these things is in interviews > all day.I get notification of one-off and In fact a few quite generous > donations over the last 24 hours which surprised me. (£66.40 in total) > These normally happen at the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 1 August 2012 11:10, Thomas Morton wrote: > The Chapters agreement is pertinent; in it WMUK agree to avoid "engaging in > any activity that might negatively impact the work or image of the > Foundation." > > This is a matter across several venues of the movement - one of which > includes us and

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 1 August 2012 10:20, Gordon Joly wrote: > I am asserting that registered charity and the "UK Chapter" as a body are > one and the same, and that the Chapter forms part of the Foundation, and > that the Foundation might have a view. > > Does the Foundation have a view? They should, since the Cha

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 1 August 2012 12:24, Thomas Dalton wrote: > I am assuming the Foundation is aware of the situation - do we have > confirmation that they are? If not, it would be a good idea to notify > them as a courtesy (they have a tendancy to get annoyed if we don't > tell them stuff...). It's reached th

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

The foundation at a senior level have been kept informed every step of the way. That is one of the benefits of having Stevie Benton in post (the other is he makes good coffee in an uncomplaining sort of way). On 1 August 2012 12:27, David Gerard wrote: > On 1 August 2012 12:24, Thomas Dalton wr

[Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

This handwritten Newgate Prison execution journal of the “Ordinary”, or Chaplain, of Newgate, the Rev. Horace Salusbury Cotton, may be of interest: http://www.peterberthoud.co.uk/2012/08/chilling-unique-unpublished-newgate-prison-execution-journal/ Note the claim of "all rights reserved" on

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Only two benefits?! On 1 August 2012 12:31, Jon Davies wrote: > The foundation at a senior level have been kept informed every step of the > way. That is one of the benefits of having Stevie Benton in post (the other > is he makes good coffee in an uncomplaining sort of way). > > > On 1 August 20

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Mike Peel is in SF at their offices On 1 August 2012 12:57, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Only two benefits?! > > On 1 August 2012 12:31, Jon Davies wrote: > > The foundation at a senior level have been kept informed every step of > the > > way. That is one of the benefits of having Stevie Benton in po

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

On 1 August 2012 12:40, Andy Mabbett wrote: > This handwritten Newgate Prison execution journal of the “Ordinary”, > or Chaplain, of Newgate, the Rev. Horace Salusbury Cotton, may be of > interest: > > > http://www.peterberthoud.co.uk/2012/08/chilling-unique-unpublished-newgate-prison-executi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Surely you aren't expecting more from me... On 1 August 2012 12:57, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Only two benefits?! > > On 1 August 2012 12:31, Jon Davies wrote: > > The foundation at a senior level have been kept informed every step of > the > > way. That is one of the benefits of having Stevie Bent

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 1 August 2012 12:57, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Only two benefits?! Making really good coffee takes up a lot of your time (and requires a top qualify cafetiere ;)). ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailm

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

On 1 August 2012 13:05, Andrew West wrote: > What's the possibility of WMUK buying the book for £5,000, scanning it > to Commons, then selling the book privately or to a dealer to recover > most of the money spent? The main expense would be the digitisation equipment, I expect, although that woul

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [GLAM] Website Ts & Cs

In my opinion? Revolutionary. ;) On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > I want to use an image from this website; but I'm not sure if the Ts & > Cs are compatible with an open licence: > > http://www.revolutionaryplayers.org.uk/terms.stm > > What do you think? > > -- > Andy Ma

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [GLAM] Website Ts & Cs

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > I want to use an image from this website; but I'm not sure if the Ts & > Cs are compatible with an open licence: > > http://www.revolutionaryplayers.org.uk/terms.stm > > What do you think? Please cite the full terms as you see them. All

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

Personally, I love the idea of the chapter buying the book, it's a radical first for us. Scanning and promoting the use of the images and text for the public benefit. Then selling the book at either little loss or a likely profit for the charity once we have a lot of public attention on it. All t

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

On 1 August 2012 13:29, Fae wrote: > Scanning and promoting the use of the images and text for the public > benefit. Then selling the book at either little loss or a likely > profit for the charity once we have a lot of public attention on it. Slight amendment after thinking over a cup of tea - I

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 01/08/12 12:11, Andrew Gray wrote: Is there a normal "last few days of the month" pickup? Everyone's just got paid... Many do, but some are freelance (hence send in invoices), some get weekly payments, etc. And some get paid on other days. The BBC used to pay me on 15th of the month. Gor

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Or two - alas your lovely donation bit the dust a little while back. The M and S replacement not nearly as stylish. Still we have good fair trade coffee for anyone who cares to visit. On 1 August 2012 13:10, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 1 August 2012 12:57, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > Only two benefit

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 01/08/12 12:25, Thomas Dalton wrote: On 1 August 2012 10:20, Gordon Joly wrote: I am asserting that registered charity and the "UK Chapter" as a body are one and the same, and that the Chapter forms part of the Foundation, and that the Foundation might have a view. Does the Foundation have

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

cf Life of Brian On 1 August 2012 13:53, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 01/08/12 12:25, Thomas Dalton wrote: > >> On 1 August 2012 10:20, Gordon Joly wrote: >> >>> I am asserting that registered charity and the "UK Chapter" as a body are >>> one and the same, and that the Chapter forms part of the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

But apart from that? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters Gordo On 01/08/12 13:55, Jon Davies wrote: cf Life of Brian On 1 August 2012 13:53, Gordon Joly > wrote: On 01/08/12 12:25, Thomas Dalton wrote: On 1 August 2012 10:20, G

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Lets not get too distracted from the issue at hand here (either onto frivolity or discussion of the Chapter/Foundation relationship). Or at least could you split that to another thread. I have two follow up queries/thoughts: * Can anyone explain why this board statement was sent only to this mail

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Does the Foundation have a view? They should, since the Chapter is a part of the Foundation. We're a chapter of the Foundation, we're not part of it. "The mission of the organisation must be in line with the mission of the Wikimedia Foundation." Source: http://meta.wikimedia.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

The wmf mission is really broad http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Mission_statement On Aug 1, 2012 11:03 PM, "Gordon Joly" wrote: > > >> Does the Foundation have a view? They should, since the Chapter is a part >> of >> the Foundation. >> > > We're a chapter of the Foundation, we're not part

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

not sure about the scalability of this proposal. If we want free information then we need to avoid feeding the market. These guys are going to charge just to glance at an out of copyright book with a camera. If the charge is a pound then we can't afford that model when we look at all possible books

[Wikimediauk-l] Gordon's query

What the WMF does for us is, among other things: allow us to use their trademarks, provide the servers & technical support that run the projects, develop and support MediaWiki, provide research and some support in specialized areas, and fund development of the movement globally. That is why w

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

On 1 August 2012 13:49, Fae wrote: > On 1 August 2012 13:29, Fae wrote: >> Scanning and promoting the use of the images and text for the public >> benefit. Then selling the book at either little loss or a likely >> profit for the charity once we have a lot of public attention on it. > > Slight am

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

On 1 August 2012 13:05, Andrew West wrote: > Currently on sale for £5,000, and the blog's author pleads: "There > must surely be an individual or institution who would be willing and > able to properly document the contents of Cotton's unique record of > Newgate's executions and put the results i

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On Aug 1, 2012 2:02 PM, "Thomas Morton" wrote: > > Lets not get too distracted from the issue at hand here (either onto frivolity or discussion of the Chapter/Foundation relationship). Or at least could you split that to another thread. > > I have two follow up queries/thoughts: > > * Can anyone e

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On Aug 1, 2012 2:03 PM, "Gordon Joly" wrote: > > >>> >>> Does the Foundation have a view? They should, since the Chapter is a part of >>> the Foundation. > > >> We're a chapter of the Foundation, we're not part of it. > > "The mission of the organisation must be in line with the mission of the Wik

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

On 1 August 2012 14:19, Andrew Gray wrote: > The best model for cases like this would be to develop a method where > we have an agreed partner who'll digitise culturally significant > material at a reasonable cost (or a group who can do it in-house, but > for material like this that's tricky) and

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 1 August 2012 14:27, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > On Aug 1, 2012 2:02 PM, "Thomas Morton" > wrote: > > > > Lets not get too distracted from the issue at hand here (either onto > frivolity or discussion of the Chapter/Foundation relationship). Or at > least could you split that to another thread.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

> > > * It seems the next step is an ordinary resolution of members - either > via and EGM or simply majority vote submitted to the board/staff. What is > the current membership size of Wikimedia UK? > > I've been trying to find out the membership size. I think Richard was > going to look it up. A

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 01/08/12 14:27, Thomas Dalton wrote: There's no particular reason for sending it to members. This list is the primary way the chapter communicates with the UK community. I disagree. The membership of Wikimedia UK has a right to dedicated channel of communication (the normal choice being em

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

The current membership size is circa 300, +-20. I don't have the exact figure to hand, but I will have it by the end of today. I am going to do some database work later and check that the database is still accurate (important if we are going to be voting on anything), and then sort out the approval

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

On 1 August 2012 14:24, Andrew Gray wrote: > > Note, incidentally, that there must be some interesting overlap > between this and Old Bailey Online, which will document many of the > trials that preceded the hangings. > > http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t18120513-5-person102 - > for e

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

On 1 August 2012 14:31, David Gerard wrote: > On 1 August 2012 14:19, Andrew Gray wrote: > >> The best model for cases like this would be to develop a method where >> we have an agreed partner who'll digitise culturally significant >> material at a reasonable cost (or a group who can do it in-hou

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

On 1 August 2012 14:51, Andrew Gray wrote: > The Internet Archive would be the best people to talk to about this; > they've experience in deploying scanning machines and training > individuals to operate them. I don't know how much the hardware costs, > but it seems there's one installed at the N

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 01/08/2012 14:47, Richard Symonds wrote: The board statement was sent to the mailing list and put on the blog, but I simply haven't had time (or the thought) to send out an email about it to the entire membership list. We very rarely send out emails to the entire membership list - usually onl

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

I agree - we have a terrible habit of expecting everyone to come to us. 'Its on the wiki why didn't you see it?' Regular newsletters to our member and donor base is one of the key proposals in the comms review that should be agreed shortly by the board. Richard will sort out the email. On 1 Augus

[Wikimediauk-l] QRpedia at the Barton's Arms

QRpedia is now in use at one of my favourite, er, I mean an historic pub in Birmingham, England, The Barton's Arms: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bartons_Arms a listed (legally protected) building, where Laurel and Hardy once stayed, and even worked behind the bar! Pictures on Commons:

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 1 August 2012 15:33, Jon Davies wrote: > I agree - we have a terrible habit of expecting everyone to come to us. > 'Its on the wiki why didn't you see it?' > Regular newsletters to our member and donor base is one of the key > proposals in the comms review that should be agreed shortly by the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

If only we had contacts in the Galleries Libraries Archives and Museums who have the skills to handle this type of artifact. On Aug 1, 2012 2:54 PM, "David Gerard" wrote: > On 1 August 2012 14:51, Andrew Gray wrote: > > > The Internet Archive would be the best people to talk to about this; > > t

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 1 August 2012 16:29, Thomas Morton wrote: > (also: now on FOX - > http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/08/01/50-shades-wikipedia-uk-head-banned-after-bondage-porn-ties/) Ah, now we find out the real advantage to having Stevie on board - he has to go through that article pointing out all the mistak

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Regretting it? Goodness me, no. I get to use my coffee-making skills to their fullest here. They weren't appreciated properly elsewhere. On 1 August 2012 17:16, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 1 August 2012 16:29, Thomas Morton > wrote: > > (also: now on FOX - > > > http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/0

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 1 August 2012 16:29, Thomas Morton wrote: >> (also: now on FOX - >> http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/08/01/50-shades-wikipedia-uk-head-banned-after-bondage-porn-ties/) > > Ah, now we find out the real advantage to having Stevie on board -

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Racist sexist, and homophobic is the least of it on Encyclopedia Dramatica. There's some very, very dodgy stuff on there. Very odd of Fox to be linking directly to a site that glorifies both rape *and* child abuse. I wonder if the Fox News editor clicked 'random article' on that site? Richard Sym

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Fox are part of News International aren't they? So a sister company to Page3.com is getting on a high horse re porn and directing people to a homophobic website. Not as bad as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_International_phone_hacking_scandal#Milly_Dowler.27s_voicemail Or the coundown clock t

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On Aug 1, 2012 2:48 PM, "Richard Symonds" wrote: > > The current membership size is circa 300, +-20. I don't have the exact figure to hand, but I will have it by the end of today. Any luck? ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http:

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Just tried that for the first time while using my computer at work. Big mistake. On 1 August 2012 18:11, Richard Symonds wrote: > Racist sexist, and homophobic is the least of it on Encyclopedia > Dramatica. There's some very, very dodgy stuff on there. Very odd of Fox to > be linking directly to

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

I am more than a little disappointed with the way the board's handled all of this. It was abundantly clear from the outset that the correct response was to lean on Ashley to resign, in the expectation that he would stand again at the next AGM and probably be re-elected, once all of this had blow

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On Aug 1, 2012 6:55 PM, "WereSpielChequers" wrote: > > Fox are part of News International aren't they? No. They're part of News Corp. > So a sister company to Page3.com is getting on a high horse re porn and directing people to a homophobic website. Page 3 is not homophobic and describing it as

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 1 August 2012 19:41, James Farrar wrote: > Ah, yes, the "false hope" story. Which turned out to be a lie made up by the > Guardian, though they didn't admit it until after dozens of people had lost > their jobs. No it turned out to be a mistake. -- geni __

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

240, including pending members who are yet to be approved. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 1 August 2012 19:18, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On Aug 1, 201

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On Aug 1, 2012 8:09 PM, "Richard Symonds" wrote: > > 240, including pending members who are yet to be approved. How many are there now? And when will the others likely be approved? ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

My apologies: I'm working it out. There are 240 current members who are showing on CiviCRM, as of now. This could vary by 5 or so either way, and I'm working overtime to work out the exact figure. This is because there are also 15 applicants who are not eligible to vote because they have not yet b

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Thanks Richard. That is much appreciated. Of course; it is fairly urgent, but working over time is above and beyond. Cheers. Tom Morton On 1 Aug 2012, at 20:56, Richard Symonds wrote: My apologies: I'm working it out. There are 240 current members who are showing on CiviCRM, as of now. This co

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 1 August 2012 20:56, Richard Symonds wrote: > My apologies: I'm working it out. There are 240 current members who are > showing on CiviCRM, as of now. This could vary by 5 or so either way, and > I'm working overtime to work out the exact figure. While I'm sure everyone truly appreciates you w

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Point taken, although technically (and legally) there are currently 240 members. I'm half way through, now, anyway :-) Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk O

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 1 August 2012 21:05, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 1 August 2012 20:56, Richard Symonds > wrote: >> My apologies: I'm working it out. There are 240 current members who are >> showing on CiviCRM, as of now. This could vary by 5 or so either way, and >> I'm working overtime to work out the exact fig

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 1 August 2012 21:27, Andy Mabbett wrote: > I doubt that many membership organisations can give you an exact, and > up-to-the minute figure. I expect most operate on an "as of the end of > last month" (or whatever period) basis. That depends on what you mean by "membership organisation". If you

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 01/08/12 20:56, Richard Symonds wrote: Them re-applying with a different address generates a new record for them on CiviCRM, so I need to check those 15 records and do some record merging to get the exact number. And CiviCRM does indeed help with reconciling records Gordo

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

Thinking about some of the implications, I am reminded of Operation Spanner... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Spanner ...and the issues raised by this case, *** Operation Spanner was the name of an operation carried out by police in the United Kingdom city of Manchester in 1987,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 01/08/2012 20:09, Richard Symonds wrote: 240, including pending members who are yet to be approved. That's quite a bit lower than the approx. 300 we've been working with since around the AGM. Has there been quite a few lapse in memberships in recent months? KTC -- Experience is a good

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 01/08/12 19:48, geni wrote: On 1 August 2012 19:41, James Farrar wrote: >Ah, yes, the "false hope" story. Which turned out to be a lie made up by the >Guardian, though they didn't admit it until after dozens of people had lost >their jobs. No it turned out to be a mistake. -- geni Never le

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

On 01/08/12 22:03, Katie Chan wrote: On 01/08/2012 20:09, Richard Symonds wrote: 240, including pending members who are yet to be approved. That's quite a bit lower than the approx. 300 we've been working with since around the AGM. Has there been quite a few lapse in memberships in recent m

[Wikimediauk-l] Encyclopedia Dramatica.

Just another wiki? Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Board] Statement regarding Ashley Van Haeften, Chair of Wikimedia UK

We now have 255 members, after board approvals. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 1 August 2012 22:28, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 01/08/12 22:03, Katie C

[Wikimediauk-l] Call for an EGM

In light of recent events and discussions on this list, I have started a call for an EGM to discuss the situation regarding Fae. You can find the call and an explanation here: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_EGM_2012 We require 13 members to sign it in order to require the Board to call an

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for an EGM

As I recall from the AGM, there was a suggestion that an EGM be call sometime during the year to discuss changes to the voting system for the board. If an EGM were to be call, I would suggest some time be set aside for such discussion if possible. KTC -- Experience is a good school but the fe

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for an EGM

On 1 August 2012 23:29, Katie Chan wrote: > As I recall from the AGM, there was a suggestion that an EGM be call > sometime during the year to discuss changes to the voting system for the > board. If an EGM were to be call, I would suggest some time be set aside for > such discussion if possible.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for an EGM

This is going to be a difficult EGM as it is and I personally wouldnt want to distract from what is going to be an extremely difficult and long conversation for our members to have. Further more no one has drafted a motion at this time and don't think we should delay the calling of this EGM fo

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for an EGM

EGMs are normally supposed to be one subject only, I think, even if they're not required to be. The reason the motion hasn't been drafted is that I've been too busy planing a wedding and running a baseball team, and working, I'm afraid. I promise to get around to it in the autumn. We will need a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for an EGM

A apologies james. Didn't realise you were going to drafting it. I agree that a motion would need to be in place before the next AGM so that any change in voting system could be applied to proxy votes to the tellars. Seddon > Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 23:43:04 +0100 > From: james.far...@gmail.c

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Call for an EGM

On 1 August 2012 23:43, James Farrar wrote: > EGMs are normally supposed to be one subject only, I think, even if > they're not required to be. They're required to only discuss the subject matter given in the notice (you shouldn't have "Any Other Business" on an EGM agenda). There is nothing to s

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Encyclopedia Dramatica.

No, not quite. Think about Wikipedia, but run by 14 to 21-year-old children with a misguided sense of "free speech". There's an article about me on there, one about my wife, so do a lot of people. Wikipedia Review and Wikipediocracy do at least make an attempt at reasoned discourse, and some of the

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [GLAM] QRpedia at the Barton's Arms

Hehe, I liked the idea so I translated the article into Swedish :). Cheers, John Andersson > From: a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk > Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 16:16:52 +0100 > To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org; g...@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: [GLAM] QRpedia at the Barton's Arms > > QRpedia is n

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [GLAM] QRpedia at the Barton's Arms

Yay! Thank you. Who knew "Laurel and Hardy" translated into Swedish as "Helan och Halvan"?! On 2 August 2012 00:12, John Andersson wrote: > Hehe, I liked the idea so I translated the article into Swedish :). > > Cheers, > > John Andersson > >> From: a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk >> Date: Wed, 1 Aug

[Wikimediauk-l] 1814-1839 prison execution journal

Hi, I'm Jess. I'm glad to join the list. I don't know anyone in the Galleries Libraries Archives and Museums. I could ask archivists if they know someone there. I like the idea of volunteer training for less rare items so digitization can be done in-house. Jess Taylor __

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] A message from Wikimedia UK

Thanks Jon. Please terminate my membership of WMUK. This is not without regret, as my own personal albeit scant interactions with Fae have been wholly positive, and WMUK has always come across as very professional in its dealings with me. But, of a group promoting the editing of Wikipedia whose cha

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] A message from Wikimedia UK

WilliamH, I implore you to reconsider for the time being at least. It would benefit us all if you were to work towards getting an EGM to discuss this matter. http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Call_for_EGM_2012 If the EGM does not occur then nothing can be gained. The call has only recently gone ou

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] A message from Wikimedia UK

Very well, in that case I withdraw my request and look at the possible options. WH. On 2 August 2012 01:20, joseph seddon wrote: > WilliamH, I implore you to reconsider for the time being at least. It > would benefit us all if you were to work towards getting an EGM to discuss > this matter. >