Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK's coolest projects

2012-06-08 Thread Chris Keating
I think we should use this opportunity to talk about projects that have an impact, not internal things like charity status or direct debits (both things I'm very proud of, but they are things which enable us to do things, not ends in themselves). Personally I'd add the World War I editathon to the

[Wikimediauk-l] London Underground gets Wi-Fi, but....

2012-06-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
London Underground stations are to get Wi-Fi, which will be free "until end of Olympics". After that, free access will be "limited to the Virgin portal and TfL travel news": http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/07/wifi-first-london-tube-stations Perhaps we could ask for Wikipedia to be inclu

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK's coolest projects

2012-06-08 Thread Tom Morris
At risk of sounding trollish, unappreciative or rude, can I suggest that in talking about the successes of Wikimedia UK, less focus should be given on the meta-charity stuff, important though it is, but on the thing which the charity's existence has enabled. There's plenty of it: GLAM outreach,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK's coolest projects

2012-06-08 Thread Richard Symonds
+1 Richard Symonds, Wikimedia UK On Jun 8, 2012 10:16 AM, "Tom Morris" wrote: > At risk of sounding trollish, unappreciative or rude, can I suggest that > in talking about the successes of Wikimedia UK, less focus should be given > on the meta-charity stuff, important though it is, but on the th

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread Tom Morris
On Thursday, 7 June 2012 at 20:08, Andy Mabbett wrote: > The screenshot at: > > http://twitpic.com/9trfss > > shows the first page seen by anyone using a computer in a library in > my home city, Birmingham. > > There are a lot of popular websites listed - but Wikipedia isn't there! > > Maybe we

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK's coolest projects

2012-06-08 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 8 June 2012 10:15, Tom Morris wrote: > At risk of sounding trollish, unappreciative or rude, can I suggest that in > talking about the successes of Wikimedia UK, less focus should be given on > the meta-charity stuff, important though it is, but on the thing which the > charity's existence h

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread Andrew West
On 7 June 2012 20:08, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > There are a lot of popular websites listed - but Wikipedia isn't there! > > Maybe we could all check out our local libraries, for similar pages, > and ask the staff to include Wikipedia, if they don't already? After my experience on Saturday, when my

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread Richard Symonds
Just looking into this now: Do you know what template was vandalised? Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 8 June 2012 12:38, Andrew West wrote: > On 7 J

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 8 June 2012 12:38, Andrew West wrote: > On 7 June 2012 20:08, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> >> There are a lot of popular websites listed - but Wikipedia isn't there! >> >> Maybe we could all check out our local libraries, for similar pages, >> and ask the staff to include Wikipedia, if they don't al

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Andrew West wrote: > On 7 June 2012 20:08, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > > > There are a lot of popular websites listed - but Wikipedia isn't there! > > > > Maybe we could all check out our local libraries, for similar pages, > > and ask the staff to include Wikipedia,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > That must have been very unpleasant for both of you. However, I would > counter with the observation that it's also possible for someone to > slip an image cut from a pornographic magazine between the pages of a > library book; if that were to

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 8 June 2012 12:46, Richard Symonds wrote: > Just looking into this now: Do you know what template was vandalised? There is some discussion at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Elizabeth_II#Porn_images_on_Elizabeth_II_page -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _

[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK appoint fundraiser.

2012-06-08 Thread Jon Davies
We are very pleased to announce that we have appointed a fundraiser. Katherine Bavage will be starting at WMUK on July 2nd. She has a professional background in fundraising and will be here to: - Manage the day to day work around the annual fundraiser. - Build relations with our donor base.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread brian.mcneil
Having experience with FlaggedRevs on Wikinews, I can't believe the same mechanisms are _not_ in use around the main page and FAs. Anyone can come along and vandalise absolutely any of the lead articles on the English Wikinews main page. But unregistered users will never be presented with the vand

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread Deryck Chan
On 8 June 2012 12:38, Andrew West wrote: > On 7 June 2012 20:08, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > > I wonder how many of those were accessing the site from public computers > in libraries, and what the librarians thought about Wikipedia when > library users notified them of the porn on the Elizabeth II

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread Richard Symonds
All I know is that it's from the 188. range, which is used by a few people with a grudge against Wikipedia. I really need to know what template was vandalised to be able to give the checkusers the info they need to track it all down. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] London Underground gets Wi-Fi, but....

2012-06-08 Thread Thehelpfulone
On 8 June 2012 08:40, Andy Mabbett wrote: > Perhaps we could ask for Wikipedia to be included in that free access, > post-Olympics? > > Sounds like a great idea, so who's got a contact at Virgin Media? -- Thehelpfulone http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone ___

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK's coolest projects

2012-06-08 Thread Charles Matthews
On 8 June 2012 12:34, Thomas Dalton wrote: > Do we want to just tell people the exciting stuff, > or do we want to take this opportunity to explain to them how > important the less exciting stuff is? Nah. Explaining why the uncool stuff is really cool atfer all is pretty much assuming people won

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK's coolest projects

2012-06-08 Thread Richard Symonds
We'll also only have about an hour for all the chapters to do this in! Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On 8 June 2012 14:05, Charles Matthews wrote: > O

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread Andrew West
On 8 June 2012 13:59, Richard Symonds wrote: > All I know is that it's from the 188. range, which is used by a few people > with a grudge against Wikipedia. I really need to know what template was > vandalised to be able to give the checkusers the info they need to track it > all down. Sorry, I w

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread HJ Mitchell
Well if you've got the patience, you could go through the recent changes, isolate it to the template namespace, and look for recent reverts and protections. But tracking it down the day after it's happened strikes as a bit like locking the stable door after the horse has bolted. Harry  _

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK's coolest projects

2012-06-08 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 8 June 2012 14:07, Richard Symonds wrote: > We'll also only have about an hour for all the chapters to do this in! Yeah, but none of the other chapters have done anything cool, have they? ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org htt

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread Charles Matthews
On 8 June 2012 14:18, HJ Mitchell wrote: > Well if you've got the patience, you could go through the recent changes, > isolate it to the template namespace, and look for recent reverts and > protections. But tracking it down the day after it's happened strikes as a > bit like locking the stable do

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread brian.mcneil
Not difficult at all. On [[Template:NPG name]] Vandalising IP: 188.28.135.246 rDNS: 188.28.135.246 is 188.28.135.246.threembb.co.uk Vandalism Timestamp: 12:44, 2 June 2012‎ (UTC). So the vandal either did this with a smartphone, or some other three mobile 3G device (dongle, tablet, 3G-enabled lap

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread Andrew West
On 8 June 2012 14:18, HJ Mitchell wrote: > Well if you've got the patience, you could go through the recent changes, > isolate it to the template namespace, and look for recent reverts and > protections. But tracking it down the day after it's happened strikes as a > bit like locking the stable do

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread brian.mcneil
Why have [[WP:HRT]] used in this way at all? Just make the template namespace subject to FlaggedRevs. Then you're looking more at protecting templates so widely used that changes will have a cache-update hit. That's a performance-driven decision, not a 'political' one Brian McNeil -- Wikinews, Acc

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread Richard Symonds
I've sent an email to the functionaries list. It should be pretty easy to put filters in place to stop this sort of thing. As an aside, I strongly suspect I know who the person is, but I'll leave it to CU and Functionaries to put something in place to deal with this sort of abuse. On Jun 8, 2012 2:

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
We dropped the death penalty for treason, right..? On 8 June 2012 14:39, wrote: > Not difficult at all. > > On [[Template:NPG name]] > Vandalising IP: 188.28.135.246 rDNS: 188.28.135.246 is > 188.28.135.246.threembb.co.uk > Vandalism Timestamp: 12:44, 2 June 2012‎ (UTC). > > So the vandal either

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK's coolest projects

2012-06-08 Thread James Forrester
On Thursday, June 7, 2012, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 07/06/12 10:42, Roger Bamkin wrote: > > > *Wikimeets* - We are not Wikimedia London (although they did well as well) > > > > It will not be the same without James F > > BTW, have we decided if he is a spy? And for which side? > > :-) > I con

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread brian.mcneil
I'm not sure on that. But, it's actually [[Lèse majesté]]. Which, in Thailand, would see you jailed. Brian McNeil -- Wikinews, Accredited Reporter. Personal: brian.mcn...@o2.co.uk "Facts don't cease to be facts, but news ceases to be news." > Original Message > Subject: Re: [Wik

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK's coolest projects

2012-06-08 Thread Jon Davies
And an image of you on that chair will haunt me for the whole weekend. On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 3:01 PM, James Forrester wrote: > On Thursday, June 7, 2012, Gordon Joly wrote: > >> On 07/06/12 10:42, Roger Bamkin wrote: >> >> >> *Wikimeets* - We are not Wikimedia London (although they did well as

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK appoint fundraiser.

2012-06-08 Thread Katie Chan
On 08/06/2012 13:22, Jon Davies wrote: We are very pleased to announce that we have appointed a fundraiser. Katherine Bavage will be starting at WMUK on July 2nd. She has a professional background in fundraising and will be here to: Welcome! :) *wave* KTC -- Experience is a good school but t

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread Tom Morris
On 8 June 2012 12:38, Andrew West wrote: > After my experience on Saturday, when my daughter went to the featured > article of the day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_II) and was > greeted by large pornographic images injected into the article through > unprotected templates, if I were wer

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread Peter Coombe
Any templates used widely enough that changes to them might cause performance issues are ''already'' protected as a matter of routine. Note there's currently a discussion on protecting the entire Template namespace and/or creating a template-editor user right. The former is getting shot down in fl

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK appoint fundraiser.

2012-06-08 Thread Richard Symonds
Katherine is already signed up to this list - and has been for a while. She's also been editing for a few weeks already! Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Disclaimer viewable at http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Email_disclaimer Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread brian.mcneil
> From: Peter Coombe > Note there's currently a discussion on protecting the entire Template > namespace and/or creating a template-editor user right. The former is > getting shot down in flames. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#RfC_concerning_template_space > >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK appoint fundraiser.

2012-06-08 Thread Peter Coombe
Excellent news! Welcome Katherine, look forward to meeting you at some point :) Pete / the wub On 8 June 2012 13:22, Jon Davies wrote: > We are very pleased to announce that we have appointed a fundraiser. > Katherine Bavage will be starting at WMUK on July 2nd. > She has a professional backgrou

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Main page seen by library users - where is Wikipedia?

2012-06-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 8 June 2012 15:53, Peter Coombe wrote: > Note there's currently a discussion on protecting the entire Template > namespace and/or creating a template-editor user right. The former is > getting shot down in flames. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#RfC_concernin

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia UK's coolest projects

2012-06-08 Thread Michael Peel
Hi all, I've set up a page on the wiki for voting, at: http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2012_coolest_projects Please visit that page and vote. :-) I've tried to include everything that's been mentioned in this thread, but please add anything I've missed (and short descriptions of each project also