Re: [Wikimediauk-l] New blog post: Shaping the future of Wikimedia UK

2011-06-23 Thread Martin Poulter
Nor do I like the idea of viewing the charity application as being adversarial, and no, the CC aren't out to get us. That wasn't what I was trying to imply. However, it is a negotiation process, involving third parties as well as us and the CC. There are different possible angles to take - some pro

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] New blog post: Shaping the future of Wikimedia UK

2011-06-23 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 23 June 2011 09:56, Martin Poulter wrote: > Nor do I like the idea of viewing the charity application as being > adversarial, and no, the CC aren't out to get us. That wasn't what I was > trying to imply. However, it is a negotiation process, involving third > parties as well as us and the CC.

[Wikimediauk-l] We need to talk to the public catalogue foundation

2011-06-23 Thread geni
The public catalog foundation has been busy digitising the nation's art. All those paintings held by government institutions and local councils. Pretty nice. Their website is here: http://thepcf.org.uk and the paintings can be found here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/ Some very nice

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] We need to talk to the public catalogue foundation

2011-06-23 Thread Michael Peel
I've met with them several times; as you can see, the discussions didn't get very far... Mike On 23 Jun 2011, at 20:56, geni wrote: > The public catalog foundation has been busy digitising the nation's > art. All those paintings held by government institutions and local > councils. Pretty nice.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] We need to talk to the public catalogue foundation

2011-06-23 Thread Andy Mabbett
With respect, no. We need to persuade our legislators to change copyright law so this doesn't happen. But then, if that happens, what incentive will there be for institutions to take and document such images? On 23 June 2011 20:56, geni wrote: > The public catalog foundation has been busy digiti

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] We need to talk to the public catalogue foundation

2011-06-23 Thread geni
On 23 June 2011 21:05, Andy Mabbett wrote: > With respect, no. We need to persuade our legislators to change > copyright law so this doesn't happen. Best we can tell goverments love copyright consultations but don't seem to be interested actual changes to the law rather than enforcement. > But t

[Wikimediauk-l] Letters to the Editor

2011-06-23 Thread Gordon Joly
FYI http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=26&storycode=416608 Gordo -- Gordon Joly gordon.j...@pobox.com http://www.joly.org.uk/ Don't Leave Space To The Professionals! ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedi

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Letters to the Editor

2011-06-23 Thread Alex Stinson
Awesome! Alex On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Gordon Joly wrote: > > > FYI > > > > > http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=26&storycode=416608 > > > Gordo > > -- > > Gordon Joly > gordon.j...@pobox.com > http://www.joly.org.uk/ > Don't Leave Space To The Professionals! >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Letters to the Editor

2011-06-23 Thread Michael Peel
Nice work - well done. :-) The more the mindset change that Wikipedia represents can be pointed out to those that might not realise it and are in the position to productively contribute to the project, the better Mike On 23 Jun 2011, at 22:21, Alex Stinson wrote: > Awesome! > > Alex > >

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] We need to talk to the public catalogue foundation

2011-06-23 Thread Brian McNeil
Let's be blunt; when someone in the US decides to take copies of all images where the paintings have entered the public domain, they will not be able to do a thing about it. Organisations should not need beaten over the head with Bridgeman vs Corel; but, someone will do it. On Thu, 2011-06-23 at