[Wikimediauk-l] National Maritime Museum collaboration

2011-02-26 Thread Chris Keating
It looks very likely that the National Maritime Museum are going to release a significant amount if information gleaned from their archives under CC-BY-SA so we can make use of it. This would include information on the service history of some 20,000-odd Royal Navy warships. More information on

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] National Maritime Museum collaboration

2011-02-26 Thread Roger Bamkin
Brilliant news - not only does it tell us about the ships but also about the many notable brits on the ships Well done in anticipation On 26 February 2011 09:27, Chris Keating wrote: > It looks very likely that the National Maritime Museum are going to release > a significant amount if informati

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] National Maritime Museum collaboration

2011-02-26 Thread Deryck Chan
Amazing news. I'm also amused by how pedantic we are in discussing whether it's a reliable source. Deryck On 26 February 2011 11:43, Roger Bamkin wrote: > Brilliant news - not only does it tell us about the ships but also about > the many notable brits on the ships > > Well done in anticipation

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] National Maritime Museum collaboration

2011-02-26 Thread WereSpielChequers
We have a London meetup in a fortnight, is it possible we could discuss this there? WSC On 26 February 2011 11:43, Roger Bamkin wrote: > Brilliant news - not only does it tell us about the ships but also about the > many notable brits on the ships > > Well done in anticipation > > On 26 February

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] National Maritime Museum collaboration

2011-02-26 Thread Chris Keating
WSC - Unfortunately I can't make the meetup. Happy to answer questions etc either over email or on-wiki. Deryck - yes, it would be bizarre if Wikipedia told the National Maritime Museum their work wasn't up to our standards. However, because it's unusual to get information of this nature and in

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] National Maritime Museum collaboration

2011-02-26 Thread Alex Stinson
> > Deryck - yes, it would be bizarre if Wikipedia told the National Maritime > Museum their work wasn't up to our standards. However, because it's unusual > to get information of this nature and in this format, I'm keen to establish > a consensus at the outset rather than risk an argument about it

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] National Maritime Museum collaboration

2011-02-26 Thread WereSpielChequers
Perhaps it would be appropriate to load their material to WikiSource rather than directly to Wikipedia http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Main_Page Then we can cite it in Wikipedia, or if the license is compatible and they have an article where we don't we could even import bits into Wikipedia. Some h

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] National Maritime Museum collaboration

2011-02-26 Thread Chris Keating
Alex - I will certainly make that point to them. The dataset *might* yet end up on the NMM's own website, though there are apparently some obstacles to doing so. WSC - I'd thought about Wikisource. I'm not particularly familiar with that project - their inclusion guidelines say "Wikisource does

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] National Maritime Museum collaboration

2011-02-26 Thread Thomas Morton
Well RS is my personal "axe to grind" :) and I think this is perfectly acceptable, and indeed an inviolate, reliable source. With such matters we have to consider content, author, publisher. Content is fine, just factual secondary level information based on historical research. Author is fine too,

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] National Maritime Museum collaboration

2011-02-26 Thread Deryck Chan
>From the project page I get the impression that NMM is publishing the data online, at the same time as making it available under CC, so there isn't much problem with historian having to cite Wikimedia projects? Correct me if I'm wrong. On Feb 26, 2011 9:00 PM, "Thomas Morton" wrote: > Well RS is