Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-24 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 23:24, Thomas Morton wrote: > By virtue of being very active the chapter may be stifling non-chapter chat. You put an image in my mind of non-chapter messages being bounced out of the system by a raging torrent of chapter messages that cannot be forded. An image, I feel

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-22 Thread Oliver Keyes
On 22 April 2012 05:35, James Farrar wrote: > On the general point, it is my opinion that the Charity is a subset of the > UK community; much as with a square and a rectangle, all that is > Charity-related is ipso facto UK community-related; but not all that is UK > community-related is necessari

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-22 Thread HJ Mitchell
  From: James Farrar To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, 22 April 2012, 13:35 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec On the general point, it is my opinion that the Charity is a subset of the UK community; much as with a square and a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-22 Thread James Farrar
On the general point, it is my opinion that the Charity is a subset of the UK community; much as with a square and a rectangle, all that is Charity-related is ipso facto UK community-related; but not all that is UK community-related is necessarily Charity-related. There's probably a technical term

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-22 Thread WereSpielChequers
For what its worth, I would prefer that WMUK matters are included to this list rather than have a separate mailing list. In my view the amount of UK specific Wikimedia Email has not yet got to the point where we need to subdivide the list. I'm sure the tellers will only allow members of the charity

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-22 Thread Chris Keating
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Gordon Joly wrote: > On 21/04/12 21:24, Thomas Morton wrote: > >> >> The line at which the chapter ends and the community begins is very >> blurred >> > > > Not in UK law. The Charity has members (and Trustees and staff). The > membership have obligations in law.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-22 Thread Gordon Joly
Another example: I get emails from The Tellers for the AGM. I assume that these will only go to members of the Charity? And those are treated (by me) with a high priority. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mai

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-22 Thread Gordon Joly
On 21/04/12 21:24, Thomas Morton wrote: The line at which the chapter ends and the community begins is very blurred Not in UK law. The Charity has members (and Trustees and staff). The membership have obligations in law. They are responsible, for example, for electing the Trustees and appo

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-22 Thread Gordon Joly
On 21/04/12 21:24, Thomas Morton wrote: What is the solution; to split the list? Yes, in my opinion. Then I will set up an email filter, and deal this the business of the Charity first. Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-21 Thread Thomas Morton
On 21 April 2012 23:19, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 21 April 2012 23:15, Thomas Morton > wrote: > > Yes. > > > > But, if someone wants sod all to do with the chapter then that is > entirely > > up to them. And arguably the chapter shouldn't interpose itself in such a > > way as to stop those peopl

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-21 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 21 April 2012 23:15, Thomas Morton wrote: > Yes. > > But, if someone wants sod all to do with the chapter then that is entirely > up to them. And arguably the chapter shouldn't interpose itself in such a > way as to stop those people having their own discussions. > > That group is the majority

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-21 Thread Thomas Morton
On 21 April 2012 23:01, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 21 April 2012 22:51, Thomas Morton > wrote: > > Hmm. That line in the sand seems critical. > > > > I'd hate for it to reach a point whereby to be a UK Wikimedian meant > being > > part of Wikimedia UK. I consider those two roles, for myself, to b

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-21 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 21 April 2012 22:51, Thomas Morton wrote: > Hmm. That line in the sand seems critical. > > I'd hate for it to reach a point whereby to be a UK Wikimedian meant being > part of Wikimedia UK. I consider those two roles, for myself, to be > distinct. There are thousands of UK Wikimedians with no i

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-21 Thread Thomas Morton
On 21 April 2012 22:23, Michael Peel wrote: > > On 21 Apr 2012, at 21:24, Thomas Morton wrote: > > > The Chapter and the UK community are distinct, certainly. And this list > does get a lot of use for Chapter business - less so for general community > issues. > > I'm not sure why the two of you a

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-21 Thread Michael Peel
On 21 Apr 2012, at 21:24, Thomas Morton wrote: > The Chapter and the UK community are distinct, certainly. And this list does > get a lot of use for Chapter business - less so for general community issues. I'm not sure why the two of you are trying to draw this line in the sand, since I don't

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-21 Thread David Gerard
On 21 April 2012 21:41, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 21 April 2012 21:19, Gordon Joly wrote: >> I am very concerned that postings to this list appear to be specific to the >> business of WMUK, a charity registered in England and Wales. The set of >> members of this email list and the set of members

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-21 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 21 April 2012 21:19, Gordon Joly wrote: > > I am very concerned that postings to this list appear to be specific to the > business of WMUK, a charity registered in England and Wales. The set of > members of this email list and the set of members of the charity are > distinct. I am a member of b

Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-21 Thread Thomas Morton
On 21 April 2012 21:19, Gordon Joly wrote: > > I am very concerned that postings to this list appear to be specific to > the business of WMUK, a charity registered in England and Wales. The set of > members of this email list and the set of members of the charity are > distinct. I am a member of

[Wikimediauk-l] Ob Comments about our Chief Exec

2012-04-21 Thread Gordon Joly
I am very concerned that postings to this list appear to be specific to the business of WMUK, a charity registered in England and Wales. The set of members of this email list and the set of members of the charity are distinct. I am a member of both. Regards, Gordo